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10/12/2007 11:10:40 AM · #1 |
So I'm off on a national park tour, soon Yosemite. Death Valley. Vegas. This is a trip with my wife, not really a 'photography trip' But the camera and tripod will be tolerated and embraced to a certain extent. I can certainly shoot several mornings and evenings.
Half of me is already packing a bag with a 17-40, 70-200, 1.4x tele, 24-85, and all the bits and bobs I'll need to shoot, shoot, shoot.
The other half of me is thinking 'just pack an 85 and make it work'.
This isn't so much about thinking I should spend more time with Amanda (which I should do and will be doing...) but wondering what it would look like with one prime vs. a wide collection of choices.
Thoughts ? :)
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10/12/2007 11:21:10 AM · #2 |
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10/12/2007 11:24:47 AM · #3 |
| 70-200, if you need wider you can always stitch a panorama. |
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10/12/2007 11:26:57 AM · #4 |
The more I think about it, the more just an 85 is appealing to me.
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10/12/2007 11:29:00 AM · #5 |
then take it. It will give you an interesting perspective, especially with that DOF available. Also, its compact so wont be obtrusive to spending time with your special lady.
The 7o-200 is rather large, and heavy. |
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10/12/2007 11:33:47 AM · #6 |
but then I'm staying in Yosemite valley for 5 nights. Not having a wide might drive me insane. No tripod for star trails. eek.
But everyone shoots Yosemite wide angle, so I'll just have plenty of shots like everyone else.
Choices, choices :)
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10/12/2007 11:34:58 AM · #7 |
| then the 25-85? get the best of both? Not as large DOF but should serve you well. |
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10/12/2007 11:35:55 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Tez:
then the 25-85? get the best of both? Not as large DOF but should serve you well. |
Maybe - though that's also the worst of everything :)
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10/12/2007 11:37:57 AM · #9 |
just take the 85.
You can always go back on your own if you get a better idea and then take ALL your crap with you. But like you said, you're not going there for the photography, it's to be with your best bud. |
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10/12/2007 11:47:56 AM · #10 |
| take everything and if you want to leave something behind when you go out shooting you can. How can you really justify going to yosemite w/ just an 85? My prediction is you will be kicking yourself if you do and your special lady will get tired of hearing "should have brought the wide angles" all day. |
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10/12/2007 11:47:56 AM · #11 |
I don't know your habits when it comes to lense selection on shoots. If you usually carry a grand choice of glass, you may want to opt for a single prime, like the 85 f/1.8 (is it?). The experience as well as shots resulting from such a tight selection should account for something, if not something special you haven't tried before. It also simplifies things beautifully, providing you with an instant, ever-ready tool.
If you do the opposite, well, you're probably doing what you always do, and no one will have to tell you a thing.
I should be going out with a normal lens more than I do, too, and your post reminds me to change my habits for a spell. I miss seeing things with normal eyes and walking to compose a shot. |
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10/12/2007 11:53:52 AM · #12 |
i say bring 2 ... the 85 and 17-40 ... no tripod (you'll find something to steady yourself if you really need to)
put the unused lens in the wife's purse, what's an extra pound in there ... she won't even notice
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10/12/2007 11:55:00 AM · #13 |
I ALWAYS regret not bringing my 10-22 so now that is the one lens I ALWAYS bring with me no matter what. I'd def take a wide angle and the 85mm.
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10/12/2007 12:05:25 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Jmnuggy:
How can you really justify going to yosemite w/ just an 85?. |
Because I've seen plenty of better pictures than I'll take, taken with wide angles there. Because the constraint might make me see the place slightly differently. Because it might be fun ? :) My gut instinct says to leave all the other lenses at home and I've been trying to follow that voice, rather than letting all the other fear and doubt and ego bring more baggage along.
More choice isn't always better, sometimes it just means more choice.
Message edited by author 2007-10-12 12:18:16.
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10/12/2007 12:07:25 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by slickchik:
I ALWAYS regret not bringing my 10-22 so now that is the one lens I ALWAYS bring with me no matter what. I'd def take a wide angle and the 85mm. |
The 10-20mm will be a very good asset in Yosemite! |
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10/12/2007 12:10:37 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by jahoward:
The 10-20mm will be a very good asset in Yosemite! |
Would be good as paperweight for me :) Doesn't fit on my camera.
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10/12/2007 12:24:07 PM · #17 |
You recently suggested that you tend to flourish under modes of constraint. And I can understand that. Here is a prime opportunity for you.
though this comment belongs to the other thread I will mention it here. When I try to communicate the constraint proposition to others I use Legos as an example. When I was young they were mostly rectangles and squares. You had to exercise creative to build something interesting. Today a pack of Legos will come with two pieces - the top of a castle and the bottom of a castle.
If you take all of your glass you will probably be able to capture more of what you see. If you take only the 85 you will have to see more.
cheers |
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10/12/2007 12:37:31 PM · #18 |
lol
Originally posted by unknowndeath:
Are you selling it or keeping it fuck the graphs. I am what you call a photographer I don't care about shit besides the work. My wife, dog, or family the don't exist even if I think they are beautiful. If you care about your wife and you need to take a few picture grab a snap shot cam and take a few pictures. If you care about your wife and still feel you need a camera take a snap shot cam and slap a few in there if you care about your wife more than pictures and money don't take shit and memorize everything or else eventually your wife will kill you and you wont need any digital or film to worry about your mememories. |
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10/12/2007 12:42:32 PM · #19 |
| I have this dilemma on many trips. Think about what exactly will happen. If you're staying in a hotel, you can always leave a few lenses in the safe (in the hotel room) for a day or two - then figure "tomorrow will be a wide day" or whatever. I would say take them all for no regrets and a nicely documented trip. |
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10/12/2007 12:51:39 PM · #20 |
I have never regreted bringing the whole kit, even though I did take a lens somewhere and didn't use it once. That was only once, and it was a long time ago. If you miss the one awesome shot because a lens is sitting at home, you will be kicking yourself for a long time. If I had to choose to leave one of them behind, it would be the 200.
If you have a good monopod, it would be an valuable item for treking up and down rock trails and getting the low light or long shots. You can also use it with self timer to get camera positions that you would not otherwise be able to get, like over a crowd, or over the edge of places. I have one that packs in my luggage.
An example;  while steam railroading in NM.
Message edited by author 2007-10-12 12:58:34.
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10/12/2007 12:54:01 PM · #21 |
| Better to have and not want then to want and not have... |
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10/12/2007 12:56:57 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Better to have and not want then to want and not have... |
yeah, its the truth of that that I'm questioning.
Is it really true that it is better creatively to have every option open to you?
Would really take better pictures with great glass from 10mm-1200mm available, all the time ?
Message edited by author 2007-10-12 12:57:58.
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10/12/2007 12:57:29 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Better to have and not want then to want and not have... |
yeah, its the truth of that that I'm questioning. |
Only you can know that truth... |
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10/12/2007 12:58:20 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Better to have and not want then to want and not have... |
yeah, its the truth of that that I'm questioning. |
Only you can know that truth... |
Better to find out than to always wonder ;)
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10/12/2007 01:01:20 PM · #25 |
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