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10/12/2007 03:51:20 AM · #51 |
From the time I opened the thread I perceived her to be spinning clockwise. Even when concentrating hard to see her spin counterclockwise I can't do it. But If I look off to the left of the picture far enough my peripheral vision will start her to move counterclockwise when her leg is at the 9:00 position but as soon as I look back at the picture she begins to turn clockwize...
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10/12/2007 03:51:32 AM · #52 |
You know what, I think it depends which moment you first look at her. Your brain first registers her as facing you. Depending on which way her foot is going at the point when you first look, that determines the direction she is going.
So it comes down to a matter of speed of recognising it as a 3d image. Her foot is in the middle of the image going to the right when she first loads. If you are quick enough to register her as facing forward in that first half sweep, you see her going counter clockwise. If you spend the first half sweep looking around at the image, then it's not until she's coming back that you form the 3d impression, and by then, to face you, she's turning clockwise.
If you're having trouble making her go anticlockwise, hit reload, and watch for her face intently. If you catch her face right away, she'll go anti-clockwise.
You can do the same covering her up, clearing your mind, and by accidentally catching her at the right time (but if you think about it too much, she'll still be spinning in your head, so she won't change direction.)
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10/12/2007 04:28:54 AM · #53 |
I'm extremely dominant for the CW rotation; so much so that I couldn't believe she could make sense as CCW. But I found that by blinking my eyes very rapidly I could catch a glimpse of her going CCW, and if I held that glimpse she continues to rotate CCW until something distracts me; then she reverts.
Fascinating...
R.
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10/12/2007 04:54:06 AM · #54 |
| That animation is driving me insane. Clockwise!!! |
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10/12/2007 05:06:06 AM · #55 |
Mostly clockwise for me, but occasionally she goes the other way.
What would be interesting would be to have several people looking at the same screen and have them say which way she's going for them.
I've been through the Drawing on The Right Side of the Brain books (Amazon link)sbefore... |
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10/12/2007 05:31:49 AM · #56 |
| Clockwise. eternally clockwise. Meaning my right-brain is dominant. |
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10/12/2007 05:41:38 AM · #57 |
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10/12/2007 05:57:49 AM · #58 |
CCW all the way!
I actually think that it depends on which "plane" she is spinning. If you consider that she's spinning on a horizontal plane and that you are looking down on that plane, then it's CCW. But, if you consider that she's spinning on a diagonal plane and that you are looking from down below (meaning she just passes the point of her foot over your head) then she's definetly CW.
Do I make myself clear? It's like looking at a watch from above and from below. If you look from above, it's CW, if you look from below it's CCW. So it depends from which angle you look at that lady: from above CCW, from below CW.
edit to add: if you look at her upper body you can easily see she's always turning in the same direction, so it depends if you look from above or from below
Message edited by author 2007-10-12 06:46:36. |
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10/12/2007 06:04:09 AM · #59 |
| I was watching her with my friend. I said cw, she says ccw. I can't see the ccw! Very strange! We decided between the two of us we have a whole brain. |
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10/12/2007 06:16:05 AM · #60 |
| I see her CW but change it to CCW. Clockwise suits my personality. My son also sees it CW and he can see nothing else, yet he is mathimatically minded so he should be seeing it CCW. I think the left and right sided explanation may be right but I am not sure about some of the specifics that it refers to. |
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10/12/2007 06:17:34 AM · #61 |
LOL!
I was seeing CW all morning until now when I can see it both ways. And I can change it to!
Just cover the upper body with you hand and let only the shadow of the foot visible (without the foot)... then, close your eyes and concentrate on the movement of the shadow... left-> front-> right if CCW and right-> front-> left if CW. Then open your eyes and remove you hand...
-N.
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10/12/2007 06:45:25 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by nikolaos:
LOL!
I was seeing CW all morning until now when I can see it both ways. And I can change it to!
Just cover the upper body with you hand and let only the shadow of the foot visible (without the foot)... then, close your eyes and concentrate on the movement of the shadow... left-> front-> right if CCW and right-> front-> left if CW. Then open your eyes and remove you hand...
-N. |
Thats exactly what happened to me. Now if I just glance at her foot I can pick which way to make her spin. Making her bounce back and forth is amusing. |
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10/12/2007 06:48:32 AM · #63 |
Mostly counter-clockwise here, but I'm an engineer and very logic oriented. If I only focus on the lower foot (presumably on a "floor") and force a clockwise direction, then look at the entire image I can see clockwise.
I don't see how the image is rigged...at least not yet. |
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10/12/2007 06:56:12 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by CVette:
Mostly counter-clockwise here, but I'm an engineer and very logic oriented. If I only focus on the lower foot (presumably on a "floor") and force a clockwise direction, then look at the entire image I can see clockwise.
I don't see how the image is rigged...at least not yet. |
Exactly what I was saying. The upper body always turns in the same direction. So it depends if you see like the upper body spins on an horizontal plane, then it's CCW. But if you look at the foot that is half in the air and you see like she's passing the foot over your head (like she's on a stage and your eyes are at the height of the stage) then she's CW.
So maybe we should get it clear...what are you looking at to decide which way she's spinning? Which part of her body describes the CW or CCW movement? |
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10/12/2007 06:57:20 AM · #65 |
| her fooot. I follow the circle the foot makes and go from that, which to me says clockwise, always clockwise. I do think my brain is now calcifying in my head though. |
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10/12/2007 07:01:37 AM · #66 |
Originally posted by Tez:
her fooot. I follow the circle the foot makes and go from that, which to me says clockwise, always clockwise. I do think my brain is now calcifying in my head though. |
Ok, if you follow her foot and the circle it makes, then is definetly CW.
Try to do that at home. Ask someone to spin CCW on a table with the left foot half in the air, describing circles above your head. Then you just sit on a chair and follow her/his foot. You will see the CW movement of the foot, while the entire body goes CCW. |
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10/12/2007 11:13:39 AM · #67 |
I just don't see any Clock in the picture :-)
First and foremost, it naturally rotates to the right, looking down from above, that would be Clockwise.
I can concentrate and with not too much effort make it change direction, during her "face kick" andgle.
I counted 9CW, then 4CCW, sometimes even just 1-2 in each direction, but always mor CW.
IMHO, correct me if I'm incorrect.
I verified it in "Jasc Animation Shop 3.04" scrolling across at slow-motion, it has 32 frames and it seems to be designed to rotate CW-Clockwise. In Ice Skating, I think the raised arm and leg indicate the direction turning.
It is an Optical-Illusion, that takes "Imagination" to get it to move in the opposite direction. Being a "Sillouette" figure, there is no Natural Depth-Perception.
Color gradiation and intensified by Lighting Angle gives us depth. Along with Focus, there is DOF more obvious with Camera lenses.
In frame #13, it appears that it can start to spin in EITHER direction.
ADDED: This body seems more symmetrical then most. More symmetrical then "Muybridge" would've found. I'd like to see anyone that can shoot 32-.jpg's per sec. duplicate this.
Message edited by author 2007-10-12 11:18:58. |
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10/12/2007 11:34:47 AM · #68 |
I can get her to spin counter clockwise if I stare above her at another object and then when I catch the change, slowly move my eyes downward again. But if I look at her foot, she switches back.
Steph
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10/12/2007 11:41:50 AM · #69 |
| Its clockwise for me and I cannot get her to spin the other way either. Even after asking her pretty please! :) |
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10/12/2007 11:43:23 AM · #70 |
| Started off clockwise, got it to shift to counter. But when I started looking at the 2 images side by side I started getting dizzy as I was seeing htem shift back and forth every 4 or 5 spins. |
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10/12/2007 11:49:25 AM · #71 |
| I still can't get her to spin clockwise. For those who can't see her spinning counter-clockwise, try looking at the shadow of her swinging foot. It moves in such a way that could only result from counter-clockwise rotation. |
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10/12/2007 11:51:07 AM · #72 |
Originally posted by geoffb:
I still can't get her to spin clockwise. For those who can't see her spinning counter-clockwise, try looking at the shadow of her swinging foot. It moves in such a way that could only result from counter-clockwise rotation. |
Nope still doesnt work, all i see is clockwise :( |
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10/12/2007 11:58:06 AM · #73 |
This hurts my head. I see her going both ways.
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10/12/2007 12:01:01 PM · #74 |
Actually see both directions fairly equally.
Message edited by author 2007-10-12 12:04:21. |
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10/12/2007 12:03:43 PM · #75 |
I can only see clockwise. Doesn't surprise me.
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