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10/09/2007 11:36:01 PM · #1
I'm on quite a few web sites... and DPC is one of few that doesn't allow you to delete comments on your own photos. Why is that?

Is it a database performance thing?

Edit to add: I'm arguing for the portfolio space, not challenge entries. So we have that straight.

Message edited by author 2007-10-11 14:10:12.
10/09/2007 11:40:10 PM · #2
I would assume that it's a record keeping thing.

Person A: posts "Yer a **@#(*#$)*(" or "This image is (#@$)(*"

then changes it " JUST KIDDING " after the damage is done, then delete.

Bad form!
10/09/2007 11:41:01 PM · #3
Actually I was talking about comments left on one's own photo.
10/09/2007 11:43:11 PM · #4
hm

Message edited by author 2007-10-09 23:43:27.
10/09/2007 11:44:43 PM · #5
Originally posted by eschelar:

I would assume that it's a record keeping thing.

Person A: posts "Yer a **@#(*#$)*(" or "This image is (#@$)(*"

then changes it " JUST KIDDING " after the damage is done, then delete.

Bad form!


Databases are good at tracking history if modeled correctly... you can delete a post and still maintain that info. Just cause you can't see it doesn't mean it no longer exists ;)
10/09/2007 11:46:37 PM · #6
Originally posted by EyeTrap:

Just cause you can't see it doesn't mean it no longer exists ;)


Good enough for me :-)
10/09/2007 11:50:55 PM · #7
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Actually I was talking about comments left on one's own photo.

IMO I think the report post or comment to the SC is the best way. We sometimes get comments that we don't like but they are not offensive or an attack on use. We would like to delete them but why delete a comment that given by a user, they may have had good intentions.

BUT...If it does cross the line SC will delete for you. I think people would stop commenting even more if we could delete there comments.
10/09/2007 11:50:58 PM · #8
It's hard enough to generate comments now. Commenting would drop even farther if the only comments kept were the rosy, glowing, pat on the back ones (you know, the comments that many people mark "helpful" and yet ignore the ones with any hint of discord or even constructive criticism).

The remaining whispers of "learning" here at DPC would fade even more.

If a comment is so bad that it needs to be removed, bring it to the attention of SC (privately) and let them handle it.
10/09/2007 11:51:09 PM · #9
I suggested this in this thread, and I think it should be implemented. At the very least, give us a poll.
10/09/2007 11:55:23 PM · #10
Originally posted by glad2badad:

even farther if the only comments kept were the rosy, glowing, pat on the back ones (you know, the comments that many people mark "helpful" and yet ignore the ones with any hint of discord or even constructive criticism).

What about the comments that have nothing to do with your photograph or your photography skills but concentrate on whatever perception the commenter has on your character? "Report post" helps, but in sticky situations, SC steers clear. I think an owner of a photograph should have full editorial control over it regardless. If some disingenuous person wants to edit out the honest criticism to make him/herself something that he/she isn't, what difference does it make? Such people don't care about improving themselves anyway.
10/09/2007 11:59:26 PM · #11
you know what id like a delete comment button on is for the posts in the forums, sometimes i type things that mean totally nothing to what is being talked about and/or it makes me sound really dumb, but all i can do is go back and edit it to say bump:P
10/10/2007 12:02:22 AM · #12
Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

even farther if the only comments kept were the rosy, glowing, pat on the back ones (you know, the comments that many people mark "helpful" and yet ignore the ones with any hint of discord or even constructive criticism).

... If some disingenuous person wants to edit out the honest criticism to make him/herself something that he/she isn't, what difference does it make? Such people don't care about improving themselves anyway.

You're right. It doesn't make any difference. No need to even bother commenting anymore if the only thing that sticks is the fluffy stuff. Why waste time putting your thoughts down only to have them just disappear?
10/10/2007 12:06:32 AM · #13
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

even farther if the only comments kept were the rosy, glowing, pat on the back ones (you know, the comments that many people mark "helpful" and yet ignore the ones with any hint of discord or even constructive criticism).

... If some disingenuous person wants to edit out the honest criticism to make him/herself something that he/she isn't, what difference does it make? Such people don't care about improving themselves anyway.

You're right. It doesn't make any difference. No need to even bother commenting anymore if the only thing that sticks is the fluffy stuff. Why waste time putting your thoughts down only to have them just disappear?

As I said, if an individual is shallow enough to do that, your comments are worthless to that person whether he or she can remove them or not.
10/10/2007 12:08:25 AM · #14
Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

even farther if the only comments kept were the rosy, glowing, pat on the back ones (you know, the comments that many people mark "helpful" and yet ignore the ones with any hint of discord or even constructive criticism).

... If some disingenuous person wants to edit out the honest criticism to make him/herself something that he/she isn't, what difference does it make? Such people don't care about improving themselves anyway.

You're right. It doesn't make any difference. No need to even bother commenting anymore if the only thing that sticks is the fluffy stuff. Why waste time putting your thoughts down only to have them just disappear?

As I said, if an individual is shallow enough to do that, your comments are worthless to that person whether he or she can remove them or not.

So I'm supposed to know that when I'm making comments? If comments can just vanish why waste time making them at all.
10/10/2007 12:10:33 AM · #15
There are critiques which aren't all glowy that are possitive in their own way. Then there are comments that are just plain stupid, off-base and mean left by retards.

One takes thought and a bit of tact. The other takes a keyboard and a very basic knowledge of a written language.

I have a feeling if we had a delete comment button, one of those would be deleted more than others.
10/10/2007 12:11:52 AM · #16
Originally posted by glad2badad:

So I'm supposed to know that when I'm making comments? If comments can just vanish why waste time making them at all.

For the reasons I've already outlined.

Message edited by author 2007-10-10 00:12:12.
10/10/2007 12:12:00 AM · #17
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

There are critiques which aren't all glowy that are possitive in their own way. Then there are comments that are just plain stupid, off-base and mean left by retards.

One takes thought and a bit of tact. The other takes a keyboard and a very basic knowledge of a written language.

I have a feeling if we had a delete comment button, one of those would be deleted more than others.


OMg nice. Werds 2 busy. 8.
10/10/2007 12:14:38 AM · #18
Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

So I'm supposed to know that when I'm making comments? If comments can just vanish why waste time making them at all.

For the reasons I've already outlined.

Ok. Gotcha - right. Sure. He-he.

Oops! Just wasted more time. Nevermind. Have fun y'all! :P
10/10/2007 12:16:04 AM · #19
retarded comments speak for themselves. Those reading them ought to be able to ignore them.

I'm against this idea.
10/10/2007 12:23:27 AM · #20
Originally posted by glad2badad:


So I'm supposed to know that when I'm making comments? If comments can just vanish why waste time making them at all.


I do believe the gist of the argument here is that comments that are by their very nature abrasive, offensive and of no redeemable value could be removed... which seems a far cry from the scenario you are suggesting.

Ray
10/10/2007 12:25:54 AM · #21
just that we could remove our own not delete anyones
10/10/2007 12:34:24 AM · #22
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by glad2badad:


So I'm supposed to know that when I'm making comments? If comments can just vanish why waste time making them at all.


I do believe the gist of the argument here is that comments that are by their very nature abrasive, offensive and of no redeemable value could be removed... which seems a far cry from the scenario you are suggesting.

Ray


already covered by the SC. I've had a few occasions to request comments/posts/threads being deleted (some of which were my own) and if the above reasons were given, the SC generally obliges.

Putting this power in the hands of the users cries out for abuse.
10/10/2007 12:38:45 AM · #23
Works at modelmayhem, works at flickr ... I could keep going...

the thing is, if a person doesn't want a comment on his//her image, it should be in his/her control to remove it. If the generally do not like the comment anyway, leaving it there serves no purpose other than to provide a source of aggravation.

As stated earlier, the comment could continue to be stored in the databaase, yet hidden, so that abuse could be investigated.
10/10/2007 12:40:05 AM · #24
Originally posted by eschelar:



Putting this power in the hands of the users cries out for abuse.


Unless I'm wrong, aren't the members of the SC council human as well?

;)

Mike
10/10/2007 12:44:57 AM · #25
Originally posted by glad2badad:

So I'm supposed to know that when I'm making comments? If comments can just vanish why waste time making them at all.


correct, I also had this feelings many times that why waste writing a comment if the other person does not even give it a damn.
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