Can someone please explain to me

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

09/20/2007 07:09:31 AM · #1

Why this picture won closing

when in theory there is nothing actually closing and on my opening picture

when there was nothing opening I get a 4.8 compared to the ribbon winner at a 6.5?

But before you start replay with rude comments and what not let just make sure that you all know that I am NOT mad one bit. confused a little but not mad what so ever. I have been here for over a year now and I understand how a lot of this site works and I have done my fair share on the site but when in reality the image conveys the fact that something is closing and so does mine.

I'm just looking for some more answers that's all. AND BY THE WAY GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE!!!

Message edited by author 2007-09-20 07:09:51.

Apple iPhone 5

09/20/2007 07:17:21 AM · #2

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

when there was nothing opening I get a 4.8 compared to the ribbon winner at a 6.5?

What does 'Opening Day' mean?

bassbone

Nikon Z8

Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-120 f/4 S

09/20/2007 07:18:47 AM · #3

You have an interesting point. I think the main differences between the two photos are as follows:

The closing 'winner' is a pretty picture with pretty colors. Also, most everyone that votes realizes fall/autumn results in dropping of leaves.

Your opening entry about the beginning of the NFL season is much more regionally based. Non US voters really don't have a great connection to this sport, and some may not even know what the ball is for! Secondly, the lighting on your entry is a little harsh. An opening usually conveys happiness and joy and the stark lighting you chose makes it almost seem like it should be a closing. Placing the football on the grass on a football field or just outside around some fallen leaves with lots of good colors would convey opening much more.

Edit: Spelling and simplified response

Message edited by author 2007-09-20 07:34:24.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

09/20/2007 08:04:30 AM · #4

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

when there was nothing opening I get a 4.8 compared to the ribbon winner at a 6.5?

What does 'Opening Day' mean?

It means the beginning of the NFL season. OR any football season for that matter. Besides even when you see a sign that says opening day say on a building or something it represents that something is opening right???

Apple iPhone 5

09/20/2007 08:20:12 AM · #5

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

Originally posted by jhonan:
What does 'Opening Day' mean?

It means the beginning of the NFL season. OR any football season for that matter.

Ah, okay. I was just making sure I understood it, as 'Opening Day' isn't really used as a common term for the first day of the soccer Premiership here. (Some teams have their matches on the Saturday, some of them on the Sunday) - It's not made into such a big deal, it's just the first match of the season.

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

Besides even when you see a sign that says opening day say on a building or something it represents that something is opening right???

Correct, but I don't see it written under an american football very often. ;)

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

09/20/2007 08:29:35 AM · #6

Hmmm, I never think of the first football game of the season as "Opening Day", after all, the NFL starts of gradually with the pre-season games and the sort of eases into the actual season.

Baseball, on the other hand, usually has an "Opening Day", or at least I've heard the term related to the baseball season.

signal2noise

Leica M9

Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux M MF - Chrome

09/20/2007 08:35:06 AM · #7

I can understand, and I think the image appropriately depicts the "opening" of Autumn - a dying leaf, disconnected from its lifesource.

Your image is just a ball lying on the ground, in the dark. It looks abandoned. Now if the football were sitting on a kickoff tee in daylight or lit by spotlights, or floating in the air with a motion trail, that may have given the image more meaning.

My 2 cents.

AJSullivan

09/20/2007 08:39:40 AM · #8

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

baseball has a much longer preseason then football does though, a months worth of games before the season even starts.

Opening day applies to all sports really.

FocusPoint

XIAOMI Redmi Note 8 Pro

09/20/2007 08:43:59 AM · #9

Forget the meaning, this picture looks nicer :)

09/20/2007 08:48:15 AM · #10

Originally posted by signal2noise:

That is a good idea, I completely agree with it.

09/20/2007 08:49:23 AM · #11

Originally posted by ajdelaware:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Hmmm, I never think of the first football game of the season as "Opening Day", after all, the NFL starts of gradually with the pre-season games and the sort of eases into the actual season.

Baseball, on the other hand, usually has an "Opening Day", or at least I've heard the term related to the baseball season.

baseball has a much longer preseason then football does though, a months worth of games before the season even starts.

Opening day applies to all sports really.

I was just about to put that as well. Opening day is a lt of things not just baseball or sports for that matter. Opening day could mean alot.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

09/20/2007 08:51:44 AM · #12

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Forget the meaning, this picture looks nicer :)

I'm not saying that it doesn't look better than mine but there are spots next to the leaf and the reflection of the light on the water on both side is just distracting to the eye. IMO I don't think that the ribbon winner should have won, It's a top 10 but not a top 3 IMO.

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

09/20/2007 09:49:20 AM · #13

There's another thread along the same lines about how the entries are incongruous with the descriptions, yet they ribboned.

I think the winners in both these challenges, though they are lovely images, stretch the limits opf the challenge descriptions.

Personally, I did not enter because as the challenge description clearly stated that the use of the opening/closing meaning was as a verb, I couldn't come up with an idea.

Silly me for thinking I should make an effort to adhere to the description!

danielv

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

09/20/2007 10:12:06 AM · #14

to some extent you can consider that people partly agreed with this. it's not often that people ribbon in the 6.5s

Having said that, I really like this picture (the one withe the leave). Nicely composed etc. As FocusPoint stated, it's simply nicer than the dark looking football.

Stretching the topic is always a high risk high reward game. Hope to fall on the good side, but be ready to fall on the bad side.

Message edited by author 2007-09-20 10:12:31.

Jimbo_for_life

Olympus E-500 EVOLT

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09/20/2007 10:48:27 AM · #15

your football picture didnt win casue it was a Franklin... now if it would have been a WILSON!!!! then you would have had my vote:P jkjk
i think its because the leave fallin into a river is the closing of a season, summer is comming to and end and fall is begun. there for closing:)

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

09/20/2007 11:37:25 AM · #16

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Forget the meaning, this picture looks nicer :)

I'm not saying that it doesn't look better than mine but there are spots next to the leaf and the reflection of the light on the water on both side is just distracting to the eye. IMO I don't think that the ribbon winner should have won, It's a top 10 but not a top 3 IMO.

Strong use of complimentary colours, clean, simple design, application of strong design principles, (rule of thirds, dark to light weighting, balance) framing device in the reflecting lines/ light), visual interest and rhythm in the ripples and curves of the leaves, universally understood symbolism for 'closing' of a season.

Just the first things of the top of my head that I see in that particular image.

In the football case, I don't have any association with a ball and opening.

Message edited by author 2007-09-20 11:38:21.

AJSullivan

09/20/2007 11:51:54 AM · #17

The first thing you need to realize is that the challenge description and title dont have to do anythign with the image if you can title it properly.

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

09/20/2007 08:15:13 PM · #18

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Forget the meaning, this picture looks nicer :)

I'm not saying that it doesn't look better than mine but there are spots next to the leaf and the reflection of the light on the water on both side is just distracting to the eye. IMO I don't think that the ribbon winner should have won, It's a top 10 but not a top 3 IMO.

Strong use of complimentary colours, clean, simple design, application of strong design principles, (rule of thirds, dark to light weighting, balance) framing device in the reflecting lines/ light), visual interest and rhythm in the ripples and curves of the leaves, universally understood symbolism for 'closing' of a season.

Just the first things of the top of my head that I see in that particular image.

In the football case, I don't have any association with a ball and opening.

Gordon I just wanted to let you know that you have just improved me as a photographer with your response. 99.9% of this I already but when I am shooting a picture I don't really think about ALL of them. For whatever reason when I read your response something just clicked and I have a very good idea when shooting something now.

Now all I have to do is find it and once I get it find the correct angle at shooting it.

AND just an FYI to everyone, I knew my football pic wasn't a ribbon winner but I did think that as far as a clean crisp image with outstanding quality in details I thought it would do better than a 4.8, I was at least looking for a 5.4+ but like I said at first, I'm not mad. I'm learning!!!

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

09/20/2007 08:29:32 PM · #19

Originally posted by ajdelaware:

The first thing you need to realize is that the challenge description and title dont have to do anythign with the image if you can title it properly.

Ya mean shoehorn? ;oP