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09/07/2007 02:49:34 PM · #1 |
I know there are some rabid Apple fans on this site and I'm just having a little fun at your expense... :)
It's Official: Apple is the new Microsoft
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09/07/2007 02:58:16 PM · #2 |
I'm really upset because they made their product more affordable. That really sucks. The bastards.
I bought an iPod that has a phone on it. Why can't I use a cheap a%% cell-phone battery in it? What do you mean it takes more power to drive its video display and 8 Gb hard drive than powering my cell that has a black and white display and has Space Invaders on it? Physics be damned. They're a big company, they should figure out how to break all the rules for that electricity crap. |
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09/07/2007 02:58:48 PM · #3 |
I kinda hate it when people write a good article, and then go on a limb with a stupid argument. E.g. this guy (Mike Elgan) has a good flow, and then he adds that the cost of building an iPhone is (est.) $245?
This is just plain wrong. Maybe yes, it costs Apple $245 to buy all the parts to put it together, but the price cannot be calculated only by counting the parts and adding up the price for each.
This only weakens his whole argument because people will pick on it and (try to) shred the rest apart. The rest of it is really good analysis, and well written.
my 0.02 |
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09/07/2007 03:06:33 PM · #4 |
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09/07/2007 03:22:08 PM · #5 |
| Nice to read indeed, but I feel the article's main problem lies in a lack of distinction between computers and music players, as well as between the iPhone and the iPods. |
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09/07/2007 03:55:29 PM · #6 |
If you look hard enough you will find bad things in about every company (and every thing you look that is). Companies mostly look about there profit, not about the "ethical" side (as you may define that).
There's a difference though between the Apple and MS example in the text... MS bundled IE, which was a different product that time, in order to drive Netscape, a different product out. Apple is selling you a product, hardware (iPod) + software (iTunes) to use it. Nobody stopped nobody to create a new software to work with iPod, and in fact I'm using that software to synchronize my music with my iPod, called gtkPod.
As for the music you buy, well, it's protected with DRM and as any other digital medium protected using that technology it will only play on a specified device with specified software. I think lately iTunes store sells mp3's (or acc's) without DRM (at a higher price)... you can play that in any mp3 player you wish.
The prices are high though, but you pay what you want/can...
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09/07/2007 04:00:16 PM · #7 |
The next thing you know, Canon will be the "bad guy", with their massive market share.
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09/07/2007 04:08:48 PM · #8 |
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09/09/2007 09:41:36 AM · #9 |
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09/09/2007 12:38:33 PM · #10 |
Not a bad article, but some of the rebuttals were fairly weak ranging from "it's not Apple's fault" to "everybody else is doing it too".
I may be mistaken, but if you buy a Zune or a Roxio or some other device, can't you pick which store you want to buy from? (although the DRM purchased there won't work on another player). Can I do the same things with an iPod? (I'm truly asking because I don't know). |
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09/09/2007 02:54:20 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I may be mistaken, but if you buy a Zune or a Roxio or some other device, can't you pick which store you want to buy from? (although the DRM purchased there won't work on another player). Can I do the same things with an iPod? (I'm truly asking because I don't know). |
I'm not sure of the details there either, but your question underlines something I think we agree on - DRM is the bad guy, not Apple (or Microsoft). DRM exists because of the demands of the record companies, not because Apple wants to employ it.
Personally, I look at what Apple has done and I think they're trying to drag the record companies, kicking and screaming, into the modern age. Jobs has fought to keep prices fair, and not allow the record companies to charge more for the most popular hits - surely a consumer friendly tactic. Apple also fought for and won a lower price for ring-tones (though the masses seem happy enough to pay $3.00 or more for a 30 second tone, heaven knows why they don't complain). And don't forget Apple's iTunes store is now approximately 1/3 DRM free, a trend that will probably continue. |
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09/09/2007 03:28:07 PM · #12 |
Very interesting. Both articles!
I love my iPod. And there are many (legal) ways around the DRM issue. Burn your purchased music to a cd and then you can do what you want with it, change it to MP3 and it will play on any player
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09/09/2007 04:38:12 PM · #13 |
Learned a very important lesson Friday about the iPhone... you can NOT purchase / activate it on a commercial account - and people get really PISSED when you tell them this fact.
I nearly quit the other day, just because someone I had trusted and respected for several years turned into a vicious monster, all because HIS boss wanted a new iPhone. Pretty sad really - only thing I've ever done for the guy is to drop EVERYTHING else & take care of his requests...
Hope no one else has to put up with this kind of behavior from customers (though I'm sure it happens everyday).
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09/10/2007 03:23:46 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by nikolaos:
If you look hard enough you will find bad things in about every company (and every thing you look that is). Companies mostly look about there profit, not about the "ethical" side (as you may define that). |
the "ethical" part is usually a marketing ploy to gain user's trust.
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