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07/29/2007 03:51:48 AM · #1
These sort of photos are really a trial as I have no lighting to speak of. This is the daughter of a friend of mine who does a little modeling every now and then. She wanted more current pictures so I offered to do them at a reduced rate so that I could get the experience I need. I would really love to have some feedback as to what I could do that would make them better.








P.S I haven't cropped the pictures as I don't know what size they want yet, so have just left them as they are. Will crop accordingly.

Message edited by author 2007-07-29 05:05:47.
07/29/2007 05:04:29 AM · #2
Come on you guys, I know your'e looking!

Message edited by author 2007-07-29 05:04:39.
07/29/2007 06:55:14 AM · #3
A nice set of shots. 2,3 and 4 are my favourites. They are nice close crops that show her face well, as well as her modelling 'looks'. 1 is a little stiff in the pose. 2 is a good all-round portrait shot. 3 is a great pose for her. She looks really stunning here, and the colour blue is striking. As Art pointed out, the flash is casting shadows on the background, which will probably be noticed by the target audience. A good diffuser on the flash would help this. Number 4 is nice and dynamic, but something odd in the angles makes her eyes look skewed. I'm not big on nr 5, the BW shot - certainly not good for a model folio, but she might like a print of it. The high contrast is a cool effect, but I'd go for slightly less highlights, so you keep a little more detail in her face. The last photo, nr 6, is more casual snapshotty. I don't know how this will go in a model folio. Maybe it's a good thing to show both formal and more casual, but for me, it's a bit too casually posed.

Anyway, good job on the photos, and I hope you get some useful feedback!

Message edited by author 2007-07-29 06:56:22.
07/29/2007 04:22:48 PM · #4
Thanks so far.
07/29/2007 04:33:34 PM · #5
Left some comments. :-)
07/29/2007 04:39:44 PM · #6
Comments made on each shot hopefully they are some help.
07/29/2007 04:45:44 PM · #7
Thanks you guys, your comments have been really helpful.
07/29/2007 05:07:28 PM · #8
Left some comments. Bump for the next guy in line.

07/29/2007 05:35:48 PM · #9
left a few comments, too. next one please!

btw, i would be interested in how you set up the lighting for the shots, it looks like one softbox/umbrella from the front-left?
07/29/2007 05:43:43 PM · #10
The lighting is simple. One camera, one camera mounted flash with the diffuser pulled doen on the flash. I experimented with a direct flash and indirect flash and half way. Also with the distance of the camera to subject. I think with the ones with the black background I had the flash pointed in the approximate direction of the ceiling. Unfortunately I dont have anything fancy so just have to make do.

07/29/2007 05:54:53 PM · #11
ok, then try to get yourself one or two big (like 2x1m) white paper-/styrofoam boards, place them on the side or 45 degree angle to the model and use that as a reflector, it works almost like a softbox or something, and then place the second one to the right as a normal reflector or just leave the second one out to get a more "dramatic" lighting on your model.

that's exatly what i did in this one

just have fun experimenting with your set ups, that's how you learn to use light...:)
07/29/2007 06:17:59 PM · #12
Thanks for your advice Chris. By the way I was in Berlin 2 years ago for one week, travelled from Holland. Germany is a beautiful country!
07/29/2007 09:27:40 PM · #13
Left comments on all. The one thing I would add to these is that all the shots could use a little more in the way of catch lighting to give a good gleam to the eyes!
TC
07/29/2007 10:12:02 PM · #14
Hi Monique,

I don't know if you were looking for editing suggestions as much as photography suggestions, but I liked the second one a lot - here's what I did with it:



- Slight blur layer to soften the skin a bit (44% opacity)
- Selective sharpening layer on eyes, mouth, and clothes lines
- Slight dodging of dark left eye
- Cloned out shirt thread
- Boosted bright/contrast in hair
- Hue/sat layer to colorize to even/brighten skin
- Desaturated teeth and eye whites a little
- Desaturated shirt a little
- Cropped out a bit of the space on top

The noise in the hair is a bit more evident - might want to NeatImage the original first. Her skin might need a little more desaturation - I'm not too good with skin yet. =)

If you're curious, PSD file is here (5 MB).
07/29/2007 10:18:47 PM · #15
On the blue ones, I'd tighten the crop a bit and add a vignette - it makes the background a little more dynamic and draws attention to the face:



I think the pros do this with a separate light on the bkg, but in PP works, too. =)
07/29/2007 10:29:38 PM · #16
Hey Jeff ( smurfguy), great editing. You've really brought out the potential of these shots. I love them both. The crop on the blue shot is a great improvement.

Message edited by author 2007-07-29 22:30:27.
07/31/2007 09:05:03 AM · #17
Originally posted by Monique64:

These sort of photos are really a trial as I have no lighting to speak of. This is the daughter of a friend of mine who does a little modeling every now and then. She wanted more current pictures so I offered to do them at a reduced rate so that I could get the experience I need. I would really love to have some feedback as to what I could do that would make them better.








P.S I haven't cropped the pictures as I don't know what size they want yet, so have just left them as they are. Will crop accordingly.


As one of my favorite Art Directors Jacques Michel Verger used to say "If you think you are IN too close, Come in CLOSER"..That is my advice to you..;-)

Kind of like this...
//anashcreation.com/thenashgallery/BenjaminKanarek/7_G
//anashcreation.com/thenashgallery/BenjaminKanarek/BenjaminKanarek0031
//anashcreation.com/thenashgallery/BenjaminKanarek/1CRW_6061
//anashcreation.com/thenashgallery/BenjaminKanarek/IMG_1558diff_clouds

Message edited by author 2007-07-31 10:31:33.
07/31/2007 09:11:31 AM · #18
Originally posted by benjikan:


As one of my favorite Art Directors Jacques Michel Verger used to say "If you think you are IN too close, Come in CLOSER"..That is my advice to you..;-)


Sooo true! I'm finding his more and more while reviewing my shots on the computer and playing with different crops, I invariably crop out a LOT...So this means I have to get closer when I shoot...
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