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07/26/2007 11:49:47 AM · #1 |
| When it comes to street photography, is it by definition something that is happening in the street that you DON'T setup and just snap a photo, like musicians playing music, people riding bicycles, going to work, crowded areas etc? Or is the shot allow to have a certain setup element to it...say I ask my friend to go out in the raining in the middle of the street and jump around...would that still be street photography...or if there are 100's of black umbrellas and I give my friend a while one and he OBVIOUSLY stands out. Would that be street photography still, or is there a 'no-touch' policy in your opinion. |
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07/26/2007 12:39:58 PM · #2 |
| based on previous challenges I'd say you will be punished if your audience can tell it's a setup. That said, I know lots of people set up their shots in previous street/candid challenges...they were just subtle about it. |
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07/26/2007 12:43:36 PM · #3 |
| to expound on Pedro a bit .. if your shot LOOKS setup, it'll get voted down. It really doesn't matter if it's setup or not. |
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07/26/2007 12:54:51 PM · #4 |
yeah that's what I was trying to say :)
Me fail english? That's unpossible. |
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07/26/2007 01:01:24 PM · #5 |
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07/26/2007 01:18:15 PM · #6 |
| Yeah...where Canadians are from :) |
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07/26/2007 01:31:14 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by hopper:
It really doesn't matter if it's setup or not. |
Agreed, if all you care about is your score (tho it can't LOOK setup, of course).
Strongly disagree if you want to challenge yourself to do real street photography |
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07/26/2007 01:53:12 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
Strongly disagree if you want to challenge yourself to do real street photography |
Yay!
That was my first thought. Glad you said it. |
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07/26/2007 01:56:23 PM · #9 |
Would candid headshots be considered a street photograph? How much of the background should you get in for it to meet the challenge? Cause I have really cool candid portriat I took ON the street, but you can't really see that much of the street.
Message edited by author 2007-07-26 13:58:03. |
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07/26/2007 02:00:44 PM · #10 |
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07/26/2007 02:10:45 PM · #11 |
I'd say the thing that makes this image less of street shot is the use of a 200mm lens rather than the fact that it's a candid headshot. And either way, it fits the challenge (IMO).
Originally posted by LanndonKane:
Would candid headshots be considered a street photograph? |
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07/26/2007 02:12:56 PM · #12 |
Background is in better focus for me though.
Yeah that's pretty much what mine looks like.
Originally posted by hopper:
I'd say the thing that makes this image less of street shot is the use of a 200mm lens rather than the fact that it's a candid headshot. And either way, it fits the challenge (IMO).
Originally posted by LanndonKane:
Would candid headshots be considered a street photograph? |
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Message edited by author 2007-07-26 14:13:30. |
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07/26/2007 02:18:37 PM · #13 |
Now you've got me wondering, does it have to be actually a Street, or have a street visible.
I thought it could be a on a sidewalk, or even a playground near a street, or maybe a storefront.
Maybe if it's obvious that it was photographed from the street, like including a driveway and part of a street.
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07/26/2007 02:21:44 PM · #14 |
| "Street photography is a type of documentary photography that usually features people in candid situations in public places such as streets, parks, beaches, malls, political conventions, and other settings. Go out and take your best photo using street photography techniques." I take it to mean you as long as it shows people in their natural environment, it fits the challenge. |
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07/26/2007 02:22:02 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by hopper:
I'd say the thing that makes this image less of street shot is the use of a 200mm lens rather than the fact that it's a candid headshot. And either way, it fits the challenge (IMO). |
Keep in mind that this is only my opinion and yes, that image meets the Challenge but barely, at best.
That's a candid shot that just happens to have been taken on a Street. There is little if no great connection there with Street itself.
Again, I'd say just because an image was taken on a street doesn't make it Street Photography. Look at the greats and you'll see there's much more to what they were doing. Do people really want to learn about that or not? It's their choice.
JMHO
I just read the DPC definition. Great. By those standards you're spot on but I'd hope that people who really want to learn or understand Street Photography will dig deeper. Myself included. Unless DPC is the only place your want to show your work.
Other definitions of Street Photography include the words like "irony"..."whimsy". That's the real juice.
Anyway, getting down or learning the subtlety or deeper meaning is a better Challenge IMO.
Message edited by author 2007-07-26 14:32:49. |
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07/26/2007 02:27:29 PM · #16 |
i respect you steve ... and also agree with your assessment.
some photos fit the bill, but not all capture the essence of pure street shooting
mine tiptoes the line of even fitting the bill, but i think it does fit - but i think caution should be used if you're going to submit something like this ... it could be bad for your score :)
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Originally posted by hopper:
I'd say the thing that makes this image less of street shot is the use of a 200mm lens rather than the fact that it's a candid headshot. And either way, it fits the challenge (IMO). |
Keep in mind that this is only my opinion but that image meets the Challenge but barely, at best.
That's a candid shot that just happens to have been taken on a Street. There is little if no great connection there with Street itself.
Again, I'd say just because an image was taken on a street doesn't make it Street Photography. Look at the greats and you'll see there's much more what they were doing.
JMHO |
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07/26/2007 02:41:09 PM · #17 |
What if there are no people? Or it's shot at an angle where you couldn't see the people even if they were there?
 
I'd consider the day shot a street scene, but not the night one. I'm not sure why, it's a gut thing, lol. To me a street scene gives a "you are there" kind of feeling. The second one is more of a cityscape. |
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07/26/2007 02:41:33 PM · #18 |
Great take on Street Photography.
Chris Weeks at Deviant Art
Click "download" on the left side to read the 160 page pdf with good examples of street shots.
Just try not to take his somewhat anti-digital stance and Leica snobbish air the wrong way.
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07/26/2007 03:00:54 PM · #19 |
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07/26/2007 03:38:22 PM · #20 |
 
both taken on the street...but guaranteed the first one will satisfy voters more than the second. Partially because you can actually see the street, and also because the second has that je ne sais quoi...the random candidness to it that we tend to associate with Street Photography. |
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07/26/2007 03:58:30 PM · #21 |
| why must a street shot be in a city are there not streets in the country??? |
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07/26/2007 04:03:03 PM · #22 |
Joe's site gets posted a lot but I honestly never thought much of it.
Just another opinion, for what it's worth, I think the internet is flooded with terrible Street work and Street Photography sites which seem to have set some kind of standard or substandard that people now know and accept as true or definitive. Well...I guess it's out there any readily avaiable. Like TV.
Another opinion...yikes!!!
Again, I think popping images of people on the Street doesn't really cut it. Something simply being taken on the street isn't enough. I'm sure it those shots meet the definition in someway but the essence of the genre isn't truly present. There should be some serious, solid interaction between whatever the subject and the street. I'm 100% certain that most people see it differently. I'm also certain I may have gotten myself boxed in, semantically speaking but...
All for now...
Message edited by author 2007-07-26 17:39:43. |
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07/26/2007 04:17:26 PM · #23 |
I will never understand why people have to have such strict definitions of things like street photography. Some people seem to think that if it is not weird or abstract then it can't be street. here are some of my shots that several people seem to think are not street but I do.
  
My current street entry is very good (to me) and allot less street than these so will score very low. But part of being street to me is your feeling towards it. does it touch you personally. To me some types of photography are done more for the viewer and some types more for the photographer and street is more for the photographer IMO.
Message edited by author 2007-07-26 16:17:49. |
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07/26/2007 04:36:32 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Again, I think popping images of people on the Street doesn't really cut it. Something simply being taken on the street isn't enough. |
TRUE DAT
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07/26/2007 04:40:44 PM · #25 |
I think all of those pictures are good street photos. I wonder why anyone would think they weren't. (hmmmmmmm)
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