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08/19/2003 11:02:05 PM · #1 |
This photo scored so low? Several one's and two's.None give me explanation what is bad with this photo.IMO this pic shows the new TREND in clothing in Chicago area {especially in teenage crowd)!Photo is very emotional and have to be studied before you say "UGH" or "WHORE"!
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08/19/2003 11:19:20 PM · #2 |
I've no idea Kosta. I liked her attitude and I imagined that the trend was prevalent. To say 'whore' or the like is very OTT and unnecessary - this is someone's daughter for pity's sake! She's got attitude - which you caught very well and the composition is good - and she certainly looks mean (could probably take a few punches in a cat fight!) ;) I gave it a 7.
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08/19/2003 11:22:59 PM · #3 |
I didn't vote in the Trend challenge, but I don't think you would have gotten a really high score from me. Without reading your comments from when you entered it, I couldn't make any connection with "Trend". Maybe this was too localized to do well. Actually, I didn't think she was wearing pajamas... I thought(think) she was in sweats.
That said I think the photo has too much merit for a 1 or 2... You probably would have gotten a 5 or so from me.
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08/19/2003 11:36:50 PM · #4 |
The stance (posture/attitude) and facial expression seem to be the focus of the picture. As such, the capture is quite strong and worthy, IMO. The setting, even manner of the photo, support this. I'm afraid you've fallen victim to those among us, who prefer a given topical criterium to criteria relevant to an individual photograph, at least when viewed quickly and without much reflection.
It is this 'attitude' especially, I find 'trendy'. Mind you, it took me ten seconds to study it and another ten to come to this conclusion...
It is a 5.5 in my book (and I would consider my voting 'stringent').
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08/19/2003 11:38:50 PM · #5 |
Pitsman,
I gave you a 4. Why? Because a) I couldn't see the trend at all. I spend some time trying to figure it out, and b) photographically, I didn't find it that interesting. Maybe a wider tonal range would have helped me enjoy it more, but as it stands, it's too greyish.
For a completely honest reply, I might add that the expression on the girl's face probably acted against me liking her. |
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08/19/2003 11:43:34 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
The stance (posture/attitude) and facial expression seem to be the focus of the picture. As such, the capture is quite strong and worthy, IMO. The setting, even manner of the photo, support this. I'm afraid you've fallen victim to those among us, who prefer a given topical criterium to criteria relevant to an individual photograph, at least when viewed quickly and without much reflection.
It is this 'attitude' especially, I find 'trendy'. Mind you, it took me ten seconds to study it and another ten to come to this conclusion...
It is a 5.5 in my book (and I would consider my voting 'stringent'). |
Wow!
That is called critique!Thanks very much ,I would like more of this on this site! |
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08/19/2003 11:45:39 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Pitsman,
I gave you a 4. Why? Because a) I couldn't see the trend at all. I spend some time trying to figure it out, and b) photographically, I didn't find it that interesting. Maybe a wider tonal range would have helped me enjoy it more, but as it stands, it's too greyish.
For a completely honest reply, I might add that the expression on the girl's face probably acted against me liking her. |
I couldn't find trend in feeding babies either, its natural thing, God given,unless you let babies feed themselves in Japan or wherever!
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08/19/2003 11:49:50 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by pitsaman:
I couldn't find trend in feeding babies either, its natural thing, God given,unless you let babies feed themselves in Japan or wherever! |
Unlike you, I didn't expect my entry to do well for that very reason. And it didn't! Neither did yours.
Well, at least I really liked my baby shot. |
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08/19/2003 11:53:19 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Originally posted by pitsaman:
I couldn't find trend in feeding babies either, its natural thing, God given,unless you let babies feed themselves in Japan or wherever! |
Unlike you, I didn't expect my entry to do well for that very reason. And it didn't! Neither did yours.
Well, at least I really liked my baby shot. |
Don't get me wrong! I think the baby shot is beautiful just not trendy!
( I give it 5)
Message edited by author 2003-08-19 23:55:06. |
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08/19/2003 11:54:41 PM · #10 |
I didn't vote in this challenge, but would have given it a 4. The reason is, I don't think it fits the challenge (Trends). What is the trend? Is it "prostitution", "homeless", "wavy hair", "gym clothes"?? I (in my opinion) have no idea what the "trend" is by looking at the picture and none of the items I mentioned above are Trends. That's probably why it didn't do well. :(
Now, if this were entered in the "Desolation" challenge I'd give it 6 or 7 because it fits much better (it's a good picture). |
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08/19/2003 11:58:39 PM · #11 |
I could see the trend, but maybe that is because i deal with young people alot, and figured it was that sweats/pj look that you were after. My "problem" with the picture (though I gave you a 6) was that the area around her head wasn't as sharply focused as I "think" would be more effective. Other than that, I thought it was pretty well done.
As for the feeding baby picture. I could see how that was a trend as well. Maybe I just need to tighten up my definitions some.
Nah.
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08/20/2003 12:03:30 AM · #12 |
This shot sure takes some studying to understand it. Which most voters don't do take the time to do. I like it. The look on her face makes this shot interesting. I want to know what she is thinking and I think anymore being angry or frustrated in a big city is becoming quite trendy. The tones are great. You did good. I wasn't able to vote on the picture but I think I would have given it an 8. You did good.
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08/20/2003 12:06:01 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by karmat:
I could see the trend, but maybe that is because i deal with young people alot, and figured it was that sweats/pj look that you were after. My "problem" with the picture (though I gave you a 6) was that the area around her head wasn't as sharply focused as I "think" would be more effective. Other than that, I thought it was pretty well done.
Nah. |
Area behind her was not in Focus?! What kind of reason is that to lover the score?So you want me to use landscape mode to take photo of a human subject? |
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08/20/2003 12:12:03 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
I want to know what she is thinking and I think anymore being angry or frustrated in a big city is becoming quite trendy. |
I never really thought about that, that could very well be the "trend" in this shot. However for me, it's a "stretch" given the elements in the picture. If the connection to the topic is a stretch (imo), even though it's possible, it's still a stretch and I mark down for that. |
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08/20/2003 12:17:27 AM · #15 |
I gave it a low score because for the life of me I could not see what the trend was in this shot...
I have 4 teenagers and live just 3 hours south of Chicago and we don't have this PJ trend here
Sorry |
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08/20/2003 12:24:08 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by rickhd13:
I gave it a low score because for the life of me I could not see what the trend was in this shot...
I have 4 teenagers and live just 3 hours south of Chicago and we don't have this PJ trend here
Sorry |
When last time you check the local High School?
Maybe the reason was that your TREND photo was bombarded with ones and you just wanted to get even? |
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08/20/2003 12:24:38 AM · #17 |
Pitsaman,
Didn't vote in the challenge but my score would barely have helped you. It probably would be a 5 or 6 for me.
My view of this photo is that you have captured a visceral emotion from a subject. Your composition with her body extending up the background from light into shadow and the shadow of her hair framing her face cause the scowl on her face to be one of the more prominently lighted parts of your subject. The grayscale also helps the model to stand out as an entity rather than her clothing. After your explanation of the PJ's I can see your take on it but I think this image stands as a great example of an emotive photo. You would receive a much higher score from me if this photo was in a challenge called "Facial Expressions" or something like "Street Scenes". Technically its sound and it has artistic merit. Too bad on the challenge but congrats on the photo.
Kev
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08/20/2003 12:26:11 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by pitsaman:
Originally posted by karmat:
I could see the trend, but maybe that is because i deal with young people alot, and figured it was that sweats/pj look that you were after. My "problem" with the picture (though I gave you a 6) was that the area around her head wasn't as sharply focused as I "think" would be more effective. Other than that, I thought it was pretty well done.
Nah. |
Area behind her was not in Focus?! What kind of reason is that to lover the score?So you want me to use landscape mode to take photo of a human subject? |
Dude, chill out. You asked people their opinion. They are giving it to you.
I did not say the area behind her. I said the area around her face. Like her hair and stuff. I would have liked to have seen more of her face. Okay. But since you brought it up. Maybe filling the frame with more of her and less of the building behind her would work too.
As far as "what kind of reason" -- its the kind of reason I choose to use. I gave it a 6, which I thought was a fairly good score. What do you want me to say?
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08/20/2003 12:30:55 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by pitsaman:
When last time you check the local High School?
Maybe the reason was that your TREND photo was bombarded with ones and you just wanted to get even? |
Actually i spend a lot of time in the high school since i have a son in 9th and a son in 11th grade
Why ask for reasons why someone voted on your photo and then bash them once they give you a reason...seems rather silly to me.
My trend photo was not the best in the world, it was hurried and rather sloppily done, but then again I am not apealling to everyone as to why they voted as they did.
If you ask for someones opinion and they give it to you...deal with it or don't ask in the first place |
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08/20/2003 12:51:22 AM · #20 |
Pitsaman....I know how you feel when the voting doesn't go the way you expected. I received 5 ones on my Desolation picture....but everyone's entitled to their views, (that's what makes the world interesting!) and I take it with a grain of salt and press on. I love your picture, but I would have guessed it was about a different trend then her clothing (like homelessness or prostitution becoming a trend) and would have given you a 7 or 8, had I voted. It's a wonderful picture, but she looks pissed off at the world, so I would have focused more on the attitude she was sending off, then her clothing.
Christy
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08/22/2003 05:38:59 PM · #21 |
| I've seen the pajama trend here in Michigan with younger teen girls, so I know where you're coming from (good idea, too) but they're usually fleece pants with duckies on them and stuff - more obvious pajamas than what your model is wearing. If it was more obvious that she was wearing PJs, I'm sure you would have gotten higher scores. I didn't vote on this, but I definitely would have scored it higher if I knew she was wearing PJs... |
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08/22/2003 06:24:33 PM · #22 |
| I gave it a 6 because I thought it was a good photo. I probably would have gone higher if I had a better understanding of what the trend was. I had a hard time telling what the trend was, especially given the title of "New." I was just a bit confused while trying to identify the trend, like a couple other folks here. |
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08/22/2003 07:00:35 PM · #23 |
| I did not recognize the pj attire of the female subject in the photo, but I have noticed the pj trend, in the mpls, mn area.... and not just teen age people. I gave the picture a seven...... it is a good b&w. |
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08/22/2003 08:17:02 PM · #24 |
Pitsaman is among my fav photographers because I like the way he approaches photography.
Having said that, I can't see the point of this thread.
Is there any hidden one? ;)
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