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08/19/2003 01:49:29 PM · #1 |
For ages, I've had my monitor callibrated to show up all the different shades that appear below each photo when voting here. My pictures all seemed to look pretty good, and I would agree (for the most part) with people's comments and most photos in general were looking pretty good. I had a surprise recently however when I had a photo printed... I wasn't callibrated at all!
When I callibrate properly with the image found here //icd.internetphotoservices.co.uk/static.html?name=colourzoom This is REALLY different to how I've been callibrated so far. Many of the graduated tones to the darker end of the scale don't show up on the DPC callibration bar. But this is how I need to be callibrated to get decent prints. What's going on? Many of the photos here REALLY don't look as good now. Has anyone else had this problem? |
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08/19/2003 02:28:25 PM · #2 |
OMG... I have a horrible feeling that NO-ONE has seen my pictures as I see them on my monitor!!!!
Argh... |
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08/19/2003 02:39:34 PM · #3 |
calibration to a print output colour space is very different to calibrating for web display - many of these print places do a real dis-service by providing these 'calibration' prints which end up making you configure your display to look like things will appear in a print, but ruining your screen calibration for day to day operation and web output.
The correct way to do this is as a two part calibration, one for the monitor to a known space (e.g., AdobeRGB) and then convert images to particular output colour spaces for printing (custom profiles from the printer) or sRGB for web display.
But a lot of the web based print places don't want to deal with supporting the complexity of a properly colour managed workflow, and try to skip the whole process by setting up your system to only look right for their printer. |
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08/19/2003 08:30:50 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
The correct way to do this is as a two part calibration, one for the monitor to a known space (e.g., AdobeRGB) and then convert images to particular output colour spaces for printing (custom profiles from the printer) or sRGB for web display.
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Ok stupid question; how do I know what color spaces to use for my printer? For example I have an Epson Stylus 810 and am using PhotoShop 7 under Win98. This link //www.reset.bg/stylus_photo810.htm shows the specs for my printer. What setting should I select to ensure my printer prints the closest match to what I see on my monitor?
Sorry for seeming lazy on finding this info out myself but I know next to nothing on printer calibration and my search results on google haven't helped much either.
Thanks,
Jax
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08/19/2003 10:22:51 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Jaxson:
Ok stupid question; how do I know what color spaces to use for my printer? For example I have an Epson Stylus 810 and am using PhotoShop 7 under Win98. This link //www.reset.bg/stylus_photo810.htm shows the specs for my printer. What setting should I select to ensure my printer prints the closest match to what I see on my monitor? |
You're looking for a profile for your printer/paper combination. If you can't find a profile for your paper, you might make out with a generic printer profile (perhaps from the manufacturer). Some paper companies provide profiles for a wide range of printers.
With the right tools, you can profile your own printer/paper combo or you can pay someone to do it.
More importantly though, your monitor should also be calibrated and/or profiled.
For google searches, include terms such as "profile" and "icc".
Message edited by author 2003-08-19 23:46:17. |
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08/19/2003 10:36:02 PM · #6 |
//www.drycreekphoto.com is a great place to start.
Lots of info on how to set up your monitor, correct settings for photoshop and so on.
Epson provide profiles with the printer drivers for their papers and ink. |
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