If you are a member of the Eyefetch community

07/22/2007 08:02:21 AM · #1

Hi all:
I am asking for a little help to anybody that might oblige. I have posted this image to eyefetch to try to get an image award. If you could have a look and give it a vote I would really appreciate it. I will accomodate you as well if you decide to post another image on your eyefetch page. Please follow the link I put in this post,then highlight my name which will bring you to my homepage. Thanks in advance.

June

(This one is in my dp portfolio. Just letting you see the image I am looking for ratings on.)

My Eyefetch Photoblog

Message edited by author 2007-07-23 08:34:41.

Fisher Price Kid-Tough Digital

07/22/2007 08:07:47 AM · #2

Junie,

Given that Eyefetch's rules are similar to ours (to the point where I'm concerned about copyright, but that's a different issue), I find it difficult to believe that campaigning for your entry in this manner is legal under their rules, since a post like this about a DPC entry would certainly be illegal under ours.

I'd hate for you to get in trouble over there for something like this. Have you checked with Eyefetch to make sure this is ok?

~Terry

LalliSig

07/22/2007 08:10:23 AM · #3

Uhh, why would you want to win an image award by campaining for it? ItÂ´s much more rewarding knowing you won fair and square, I am not going to call this cheating since I donÂ´t know the rules on Eyefetch but, really do you want to win an award this way?

Elvis_L

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

07/22/2007 08:11:40 AM · #4

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

they have a whole section in their forums for asking for votes. it is not anonymous except for contests. asking on DPC may be a bit much but asking in general is an excepted practice.

Elvis_L

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

07/22/2007 08:12:28 AM · #5

Originally posted by Larus:

its not cheating. what she is doing is the same as poting a photo here asking for comments.

07/22/2007 08:14:58 AM · #6

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by Larus:
Uhh, why would you want to win an image award by campaining for it? ItÂ´s much more rewarding knowing you won fair and square, I am not going to call this cheating since I donÂ´t know the rules on Eyefetch but, really do you want to win an award this way?

its not cheating. what she is doing is the same as poting a photo here asking for comments.

Not exacly.

What she is doing here is the same as if someone entered in a challenge here shared the photo elsewhere and told people to come here and vote on it. On DPC, that most certainly is cheating, and people have been banned for up to a year for it.

That said, Eyefetch's rules are different, and they may well allow it -- many photo contests do.

~Terry

Elvis_L

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

07/22/2007 08:35:11 AM · #7

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

Originally posted by Larus:
Uhh, why would you want to win an image award by campaining for it? ItÂ´s much more rewarding knowing you won fair and square, I am not going to call this cheating since I donÂ´t know the rules on Eyefetch but, really do you want to win an award this way?

its not cheating. what she is doing is the same as poting a photo here asking for comments.

Not exacly.

What she is doing here is the same as if someone entered in a challenge here shared the photo elsewhere and told people to come here and vote on it. On DPC, that most certainly is cheating, and people have been banned for up to a year for it.

That said, Eyefetch's rules are different, and they may well allow it -- many photo contests do.

~Terry

except this photo is not in a contest. they have contests similar to here but also you can vote on all of your portfolio entries. the awards are gained from stuff like being the highest 100 of the day at stuff like that. As i said all of their forum games are based on asking people to vote on your shot. while going to another site may be pushing it.......

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hihosilver

Nikon D200

07/22/2007 10:26:26 AM · #8

JunieMoon,

I debated whether to post or not, but I would hate to see you get into trouble. My advice to you is to abandon a thread such as this one (which will probably do more harm than good) and concentrate on taking the best possible photos you can because cream always rises to the top.

We all wish to walk down the red carpet of the blue ribbon award. Like you, I too shared this dream. However, I've come to the conclusion that (as evidenced by such stellar photographers as

Larus), if you have a first class photo, it will rise to the top all by itself without any need for a vote campaign.

Personally, I've never taken such a "cream of the crop" photo, but it has definitely become a personal goal not so much because of sites such as DPC or Eyefetch, but just because I want to know if I have one such photo within my own heart.

Good Luck.

-Mae

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

07/22/2007 01:38:13 PM · #9

Sorry, I did not mean to breach etiquette. What it is actually is what we call an eyerank. It is public for all to see. They can rank any photo they want to, and they know it is yours. They can go to your portfolio and rank anything that is posted. I had hoped that letting people know I have an account at eyefetch would bring some to the site and if you are a member, just rank what you like. I did not say you had to rank any of my images, just suggested it. Anyway, I will not do this again. I just posted the image today and it has received about 30 rankings already. Just hoped maybe there would be some folks here who might actually like me enough, or maybe find something in the account that they might give a rank on, especially if you are a member.

If you fear others knowing you are part of the community, that is valid. I won't tell, but I know many here think the site is worthless, though I have found many friends and help there. So anyway, I guess this dies here. Sorry for asking another photo community I have been an active part of for any kind of help.

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pcody

Canon PowerShot G6

07/22/2007 02:33:02 PM · #10

June, don't feel bad. I've seen countless threads here at dpc asking for votes at other sites. Personally, I think they are displaying bad form, but I've not seen very many people say it's outright cheating before. I'm glad you've found a place that can appreciate your work and where you are able to communicate with like-minded people. That is the important thing.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/22/2007 03:18:42 PM · #11

Originally posted by pcody:

It depends all depends on what the etiquette, objectives and rules of the other site's contests are.

For DPChallenge, campaigning on another site for votes is against the rules. It's probably the same for the Eyefectch contests, though it looks like it might not be for the daily awards.

Other sites run photo contests with the goal of driving traffic to their site. Jones Soda is one example, but this is also common with sites run by newspapers, magazines and tourism boards. In those cases, "getting out the vote" is not only permissible, but expected -- and an express purpose of the contest. When that's the case, using the DPC boards to do so is generally considered perfectly acceptable, assuming the poster is an estabished participant.

My post was not intended to be accusatory in any way. I simply do not know what Eyefetch's rules are on this, so I simply asked the question.

~Terry

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

07/22/2007 03:58:21 PM · #12

Let's all note that Junie merely asked for a vote, not a high vote. Given their rules, I don't think she is doing anything incorrect at all.

07/22/2007 04:08:40 PM · #13

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Let's all note that Junie merely asked for a vote, not a high vote. Given their rules, I don't think she is doing anything incorrect at all.

Good point -- and based on my current understanding of the situation, I agree. I simply wasn't sure, which is why I asked the question.

~Terry

soup

Canon EOS-30D

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

07/22/2007 04:17:58 PM · #14

DNMC ;}

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

07/22/2007 04:56:03 PM · #15

For those who aren't aware of it, and it's been touched on in other posts to this thread, EyeFetch has basically two components; they have their contests, pretty much exactly like our challenges, and these are anonymous during voting. But where we have portfolios that people can cruise through willy-nilly and leave (or not leave) comments, they have institutionalized that process in a big way.

They rank the number and quality of "ratings" that are given to portfolio images, and those who achieve certain benchmarks make into their "hall of fame". This part of EyeFetch is their "popularity" contest, and there's nothing anonymous about it at all. I haven't participated in EyeFetch for many months, maybe even more than a year, but as far as how it was when I stopped, I don't think Junie's asking for anything that's forbidden by their rules. Indeed, the "exchange" of image ratings and the attempt to get as many "ranking images" as possible seems to be a serious sport there :-)

R.

07/22/2007 09:20:26 PM · #16

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Thanks Robert. I did feel extremely bummed today about the general responses here. Wrote a scathing blog entry in my handwritten journal about it to let off some steam. Wrote for about an hour about my lament at how I was feeling and how shattered I felt. Tonight just before coming on I had this sense of doom and the wind was totally out of my sails. Your post has made me feel a little better. It is people like you that have helped me find this site to be frequently gone to. That was bad English. Anyway, I have removed all info about eyefetch from my dp account and likewise from the eyefetch account. It will be swept under the carpet, mistake noted and now I will try to feel my way back to some picture taking, though I must admit today was very hard.

crayon

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

07/22/2007 09:46:05 PM · #17

junie - (my assumptions) you also gotta understand that there's a certain unspoken grunge between some of us here with eyefetch, because he-who-must-not-be-named was banished from the site and he went into hiding in eyefetch. so its nothing wrong with what you asked, but it's like mentioning Hell in a happy gathering... ;)

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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/22/2007 10:28:48 PM · #18

Originally posted by crayon:

junie - you also gotta understand that there's a certain unspoken grunge between some of us here with eyefetch, because he-who-must-not-be-named was banished from the site and he went into hiding in eyefetch. so its nothing wrong with what you asked, but it's like mentioning Hell in a happy gathering... ;)

Well he who must not be named seems quite happy there, and will not be bothering anybody here any longer. I do understand that end of the story. Just didn't know if anybody else knew it. I guess the bad taste was reminiscent of my request.

suemack

Canon EOS-20D

07/22/2007 10:36:40 PM · #19

Hang in there June (((hugs)))

pcody

Canon PowerShot G6

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

07/22/2007 10:39:56 PM · #20

What. Just because someone else has an account at another site, it's ok to make someone feel like scum for asking for ratings? give me a break