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 08/14/2003 08:32:07 AM · #51
I'm going to boost the shaprness, contrast and saturation in my 10D. I might even use my G2 (sorry team 10D) to shoot black and white or Sepia.

In order to get the best exposure I will bracket my shots 1/2 or 1 stop to see what happens. I can't say I've done that before (bracketing) except to test the function. I usually give myself a bit of a buffer in order to crop if needed, but this time I'll have to really study the shot to make sure I do it right. It'll be a different type of challenge; I still expect to see good quality shots. Again, this challenge won't be for everyone, but I'm going to try my best to learn from it.

Good luck to all the participants :)
 08/14/2003 08:37:21 AM · #52
I'm really looking forward to this one.

As Jacko said, I've been shooting wider with the idea of being able to crop for best presentation of the subject.

This will get me to look at what I'm shooting in a much different way.

Thanks DP,, once again an opportunity to learn.

08/14/2003 08:49:49 AM · #53
So am I allowed to shoot in "RAW" or not? Certainly using Capture One to do my conversion to JPEG is "post processing" isn't it?

Raw to me is like a "digital negative"; I haven't shot in JPEG with my camera since the first couple weeks I had it while I was learning its ins-and-outs and wanted the "instant gratification" of JPEGs. Now I won't shoot in anything but raw, which has allowed me to salvage quite a few shots... not to mention work with 16-bit no-compression-artifacts TIFFs for those images I really want top-notch prints from, among other things.

(And I have to agree that point-and-shoot cameras with "Sepia" and "Black & White" settings will have an advantage, especially given the challenge theme.)
 08/14/2003 09:01:57 AM · #54
Originally posted by GeneralE:
This is a real photo but was taken last week ....


Well, heck, GeneralE. I'll give that one a 7. At least you got some color and definition for this challenge. It looks like you took it on an old Instamatic.
 08/14/2003 09:05:34 AM · #55
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
This is a real photo but was taken last week ....


Well, heck, GeneralE. I'll give that one a 7. At least you got some color and definition for this challenge. It looks like you took it on an old Instamatic.

I thought it looked like it was a hurriedly taken by someone running away at the time : )
 08/14/2003 09:06:38 AM · #56
Originally posted by EddyG:
So am I allowed to shoot in "RAW" or not? Certainly using Capture One to do my conversion to JPEG is "post processing" isn't it?



Yeah, I second this question. Is conversion from RAW to JPEG OK or do we need to just shoot in JPEG?

I like to leave my camera in RAW mode 'cause I never know when I might see that one in a bijillion shot that could turn out to be the best of all my crappy shots. I might wanna put it in a frame and say, 'til I actually compose something pleasant, THIS is my best crappy shot. :)
(just havin a little fun but I do want some decision about this question).
 08/14/2003 09:14:36 AM · #57
Originally posted by EddyG:
So am I allowed to shoot in "RAW" or not? Certainly using Capture One to do my conversion to JPEG is "post processing" isn't it?

Raw to jpg is fine.
 08/14/2003 09:20:31 AM · #58
ITS ONLY A CHALLENGE.

The unlimited edits favors some people, the no edits might favor some other people (those people wo are not as good using photoshop, or some other editing tool). Why not give some other photographers a chance. Show what you can do with the camera, not what you can do with post processing.

It seems to me, that there are are some people here who just like to complain. If there was a "cold" challenge, and someone took a picture of a plate of ice cream, someone else would complain that the ice cream is too cold.

If there was a "round" challenge, some would complain that the picture is too round. (Whoops, that already happened!)

Message edited by author 2003-08-14 09:21:16.
 08/14/2003 09:25:54 AM · #59
I wouldn't like it if every challenge was no-editing. But I'm actually very pleased to have this one that is, mostly because when I saw it I sort of paused in startlement, and started to have that wait-a-minute response.

Then I started thinking. This will make me do something different, again, from what I've been working on here lately. Maybe it won't be the same photo it could have been with editing. Maybe it won't be as good. (Considering my PS skills, the latter's not a certain thing.) But it will force me to work in different terms and to think and grow.

I don't think that's a bad thing at all. I don't think I'd choose to go no-edits in general, but trying to get the best photo that I can while the challenge has that rule may lead to my taking better in-camera pictures (I can hope!), and if it does, that's only going to make edited entries in future challenges that more effective. There is, after all, only so much you can do with any given starting point.
 08/14/2003 10:11:11 AM · #60
Originally posted by drewmedia:
Originally posted by EddyG:
So am I allowed to shoot in "RAW" or not? Certainly using Capture One to do my conversion to JPEG is "post processing" isn't it?

Raw to jpg is fine.


You do realise that 'using capture one to convert RAW to JPEG' means white balance adjustment, saturation, individual channel adjustments, levels adjustment per channel, curves per channel, exposure compensation, contrast adjustment and selective edge sharpening ?

In fact, I don't even bother using photoshop any more, other than for a final sharpening action, now that I use capture one to convert my raws to a JPEG that I'm happy with straight off the bat.

But if you shoot RAW (I don't think I've taken a JPEG in over a year) this is just the basic workflow, I don't even consider it editing, its just required to get a decent digital 'print' from the raw file 'negative'. The idea of 'no edits' on the surface might seem like a good dual of the future 'free editing' approach. But as with a lot of things that sound like good ideas, doesn't make any actual sense at all if you understand how a digital camera works.

Message edited by author 2003-08-14 10:14:17.
 08/14/2003 10:12:00 AM · #61
I'm gonna try for this "challenge" ... and thats exactly what it is ... this site is called dpchallenge.com ... not dpeasy.com ...

if you want to enter the challenge go ahead ... if you dont well there are other challenges for the week ...

if you dont like the challenges ... suggest new ones ... i'm sure drew and langdon are open to new ideas ...

good luck everyone
 08/14/2003 10:16:13 AM · #62
Originally posted by kyrielle:
I don't think I'd choose to go no-edits in general . . . .


Hey, what about guys like me whose skills in PS are currently so deficient that I may as well be going "no-edits" on every challenge. LOL

Thankfully I am trying different PS skills in all the contests to boost my repetoire. Maybe if I stay after this obsession some of these skills will stick with me and someday I can choose to use "no-edits" or edits and impress some of you with artistic productions the way that you folks impress me. The creativity that I've seen on DPC is to be commended. (OK, playing with Lucas' Star Wars poster was blasphemy but other than that. . . .)

;)
 08/14/2003 10:32:26 AM · #63
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by drewmedia:

Raw to jpg is fine.

You do realise that 'using capture one to convert RAW to JPEG' means white balance adjustment, saturation, individual channel adjustments, levels adjustment per channel, curves per channel, exposure compensation, contrast adjustment and selective edge sharpening ?

Shhhhh Gordon! You weren't supposed to tell!! :-) (Don't forget "crop" and "resize" too... I really like C1's crop tool, especially with the 'show rule of thirds lines' option turned on.)

Like you, I barely do anything in Photoshop most of the time, preferring to do as much as possible in C1 while working with the raw data.

I assume for this challenge that you'll just have to leave everything "as shot" and simply hit the "develop" button after setting the width or height to 640.
 08/14/2003 10:34:39 AM · #64
Originally posted by sslickk:


As Jacko said, I've been shooting wider with the idea of being able to crop for best presentation of the subject.



I've boo-hoo'd enough for one week. I think this is going to be a lot of fun to shoot.

QUESTION: is cropping allowed? Does "resizing" include cropping?

Rob
 08/14/2003 10:38:00 AM · #65
Originally posted by EddyG:


Like you, I barely do anything in Photoshop most of the time, preferring to do as much as possible in C1 while working with the raw data.

I assume for this challenge that you'll just have to leave everything "as shot" and simply hit the "develop" button after setting the width or height to 640.


what is this capture one business? can someone post a link? i'm new to RAW and am very interested in seeing what it's all about.

thanks!

08/14/2003 10:41:24 AM · #66
Originally posted by muckpond:
QUESTION: is cropping allowed? Does "resizing" include cropping?

Rob

I think not -- I think it means take the file straight from the camera and use the "Image Size" command (or equivalent) to set the longest side to no more than 640 pixels.

I just used IrfanView -- I didn't even open it in Photoshop. I DID save an intermediate (resized) TIFF file so that I could adjust the JPEG setting for maximum filesize allowed.
 08/14/2003 11:15:00 AM · #67
Originally posted by clues56:
I think it is a good challenge for good old fashioned photography. We'll see who the real photographers are.


So real photographers don't use darkrooms ?

Good old fashioned photography uses places like walmart and totally automatic processing ?

I think you use different definitions of 'real' and 'good old fashioned' than Ithe rest of the world.
 08/14/2003 11:16:34 AM · #68
Originally posted by muckpond:
Originally posted by EddyG:


Like you, I barely do anything in Photoshop most of the time, preferring to do as much as possible in C1 while working with the raw data.

I assume for this challenge that you'll just have to leave everything "as shot" and simply hit the "develop" button after setting the width or height to 640.


what is this capture one business? can someone post a link? i'm new to RAW and am very interested in seeing what it's all about.

thanks!


Capture One is a RAW convertion program to produce a useable image.

//www.phaseone.com/en/
 08/14/2003 11:20:57 AM · #69


thanks!

i didn't know the software was camera-specific. i thought a raw file was a raw file no matter the camera? i am going to poke through the documentation and see what i can find....

thanks again.

08/14/2003 11:27:31 AM · #70
I can't believe people are whining about this one. It's ONE challenge for crying out loud. If you want to post process, take a picture that fits the challenge, post process away, JUST DON'T ENTER IT!!!!

Jeese Louise (no offense to anyone named Louise), you would think Drew and Langdon were asking you to run naked through a crowded mall with dobermans after you in the middle of the Christmas season all while throwing hundred dollar bills at everyone you see. It's NOT that big of a deal.

Relax, have fun.

(I for one will enter because I do very little post processing anyway, and if no one else does, I have a shot it the top 50, muhahahahahahah)
 08/14/2003 11:40:42 AM · #71
Myself......I'm going shooting!
 08/14/2003 12:51:07 PM · #72
My only gripe, is that my A40 takes really soft pictures and needs the USM to sharpen them up. :)
 08/14/2003 12:59:39 PM · #73
This might be my only chance of a ribbon. No other competitors! ;)

Message edited by author 2003-08-14 12:59:51.
 08/14/2003 01:14:43 PM · #74
What did they mean by this?

"To attempt to recover from last week's mistake (the Future Challenge)..."

Why was it a "mistake"? Haven't been by the site for a bit..

08/14/2003 01:16:51 PM · #75
John, I thought you had officially declared you were no longer entering any challenges a month or two back. Seems like this shouldn't be an issue for you....

I wouldn't blame Drew and Langdon if they just reached for the power button on the server and shut the whole thing down. Seems like every single challenge topic generates some sort of tempest in a teapot...
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