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06/19/2007 06:15:13 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by digitalpins:
lol holy Shizznit how old is that ad
lol try getting photoshop to run on that
I think the monitor is says pagemaker damn I hated that program... |
I don't think photoshop would even fit on that, not to mention that the monitor and mouse is not included! |
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06/19/2007 06:26:35 PM · #27 |
| Does it have usb? If not, I can't use it properly. |
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06/19/2007 06:34:03 PM · #28 |
About the time this ad came out, I was working for a company that sold tape backup systems (2.2GB tapes, serious stuff for the day). The CEO stood up in front of a companywide meeting, with a camera that recorded a single picture on a 3.5" floppy disk. I don't know what the resolution was on the shot, but it printed to about 3" square, and was pretty grainy. He told us that the future was going to be about backing up what we now call multimedia.
He was right. Too bad the company didn't survive...
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06/19/2007 06:35:58 PM · #29 |
Back in the day, one of my clients was the daughter of the "Kay" of Kay Computers; she fixed me up with state of the art stuff at a fraction of the cost; $1000 instead of $10,000 if I recall correctly...
R.
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06/19/2007 06:36:56 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by swhiddon:
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by swhiddon:
Well since I worked at RadioShack I should know this but I think it was 1989. |
It does say "new to 89" on the ad.. |
I guess I was right. :P ...I didn't even read that, I was thinking that was the per Mo. $ because that the way RadioShack posted their ads in the 90's and after 2000. |
Scott, did you get out before or because Radio Shack became a toy store.
RS was on of my favorite places before it became the new toys r us... :)
(I had the Tandy 1000 before my Gateway 386sx16 which was equally spendy) |
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06/19/2007 07:17:17 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by swhiddon:
I also remember selling cell phones for over $1000 with contract @ $1.50 a minute all the time.
*NO free minutes
*NO Peak/Off Peak
*NO free weekends
*NO mobile-2-mobile minutes
But on the PLUS side even the handheld models (The Brick) had 3-watts of power. |
And if you received a call you paid as well.
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06/19/2007 07:28:59 PM · #32 |
One thing is sad however.
Look at the average access time on those ANCIENT hard disks.
30 milliseconds.
Today?
~10 milliseconds.
That has to be THE least developed aspect of the PC since that time.
And still today it's a huge bottleneck. |
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06/19/2007 07:35:23 PM · #33 |
| We had one just like that in 1989 when I was 9 years old - Dad must have won the lottery and I never knew about it. |
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06/19/2007 07:50:52 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by bjarnith:
One thing is sad however.
Look at the average access time on those ANCIENT hard disks.
30 milliseconds.
Today?
~10 milliseconds.
That has to be THE least developed aspect of the PC since that time.
And still today it's a huge bottleneck. |
That's 3 times faster :-)
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06/19/2007 08:02:11 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Tim:
We had one just like that in 1989 when I was 9 years old - Dad must have won the lottery and I never knew about it. |
Yes, the Apple II+ was a costly little thing too. I can only remember that the 9 pin Epson printer cost an extra $700. But, my goodness, that little printer lasted and lasted. |
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06/19/2007 08:14:39 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by bjarnith:
One thing is sad however.
Look at the average access time on those ANCIENT hard disks.
30 milliseconds.
Today?
~10 milliseconds.
That has to be THE least developed aspect of the PC since that time.
And still today it's a huge bottleneck. |
Yeah, but solid state drives are on the market now at acceptable prices, so it's only a year or two away from the end of Mechnical drives for high performance systems... |
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06/19/2007 08:31:14 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by KiwiChris:
Originally posted by bjarnith:
One thing is sad however.
Look at the average access time on those ANCIENT hard disks.
30 milliseconds.
Today?
~10 milliseconds.
That has to be THE least developed aspect of the PC since that time.
And still today it's a huge bottleneck. |
Yeah, but solid state drives are on the market now at acceptable prices, so it's only a year or two away from the end of mechanical drives for high performance systems... |
For high performance systems maybe, but for the masses and mass storage no where close.
People have made sacrifices in space for performance such as the WD Raptor series, no reason why they wont even further. If systems could be optimized to use a combination of both in gaming i think that would be a good compromise.
Message edited by author 2007-06-19 20:31:27. |
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06/19/2007 09:08:48 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Originally posted by Tim:
We had one just like that in 1989 when I was 9 years old - Dad must have won the lottery and I never knew about it. |
Yes, the Apple II+ was a costly little thing too. I can only remember that the 9 pin Epson printer cost an extra $700. But, my goodness, that little printer lasted and lasted. |
and remember the sound of that sucker going across the page and back again lol.
Growing up we had the system that ran on two cassette tapes, I think it was the Coleco Adam. Tons of fun. |
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06/19/2007 09:25:21 PM · #39 |
Link to Digital Group computer (pic too big to post in a forum)
This was my first computer. Bought it when I was 16 (1976) even before I bought my first car. Had a whopping 48K of ram in it (I paid $900 for 32K of ram!). The unit on the left was a dual cassette drive system. It could seek anywhere on a 60 minute cassette tape within 15 seconds. Total system cost: $3600. (a nice sum of money for a 16yo back in 76)
Message edited by author 2007-06-19 21:26:08.
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06/19/2007 09:26:32 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by sabphoto:
Originally posted by sfalice:
Originally posted by Tim:
We had one just like that in 1989 when I was 9 years old - Dad must have won the lottery and I never knew about it. |
Yes, the Apple II+ was a costly little thing too. I can only remember that the 9 pin Epson printer cost an extra $700. But, my goodness, that little printer lasted and lasted. |
and remember the sound of that sucker going across the page and back again lol.
Growing up we had the system that ran on two cassette tapes, I think it was the Coleco Adam. Tons of fun. |
Our dealership still uses dot matrix printers, mostly not only because their cheap to feed but its the best thing to use for carbon paper.
The Service Parts Counter (My Area) recently made the decision since we dont use carbon paper to use the laser printer. I warned them it would be dead in a month, even the tech guy said well ill be back in 4 days. Damn thing keeps pumping not bad for a 2year old consumer laser printer with a load capacity of 3000 sheets per month which we well exceed. |
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06/19/2007 09:35:54 PM · #41 |
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06/19/2007 10:00:40 PM · #42 |
Kaypro, Morrow....you guys are just bringing back the memories.
But you forgot to mention the Osbornes. I used to work for a dealer that sold all three of them. We eventually became an Apple/IBM/Compaq dealer
My last employer (a different dealer) has a rather extensive collection of old computers. He actually has a museum set up in the business offices.//www.syssrc.com/html/museum/. The online musem is nowhere near as nice as the real thing. He has boxes in the warehouse that he doesn't even know what's in them.
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06/19/2007 10:23:45 PM · #43 |
My first PC in 1981 or 82 was it...can't remember, maybe 83 or 84.
8086 running at 10mhz. 640k ram No hard drive initially. Running YangTech Dos3.0 I think. Upgraded to two 20 MEG hard drives. When you powered the machine up it sounded like an F4 fighter on the carrier deck spooling up for a catapult launch. If I'd invested every dollar I've ever spent on computers, software, and electronic parts, in MicroSoft and Cisco stock I could buy 22 megapixel MF backs once a week into the far future.
Message edited by author 2007-06-19 22:24:25.
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06/19/2007 11:18:33 PM · #44 |
| i think my mobile phone runs few times faster than that $8500 computer, i think i'll put it up for auction on ebay for $4250, half that computer's price. i might get lucky. |
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06/19/2007 11:24:27 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by fir3bird:
My first PC in 1981 or 82 was it...can't remember, maybe 83 or 84.
8086 running at 10mhz. 640k ram No hard drive initially. Running YangTech Dos3.0 I think. Upgraded to two 20 MEG hard drives. When you powered the machine up it sounded like an F4 fighter on the carrier deck spooling up for a catapult launch. If I'd invested every dollar I've ever spent on computers, software, and electronic parts, in MicroSoft and Cisco stock I could buy 22 megapixel MF backs once a week into the far future. |
8086's didn't catch on at first. Most of the hardware at the time was 8 bit and the world wasn't ready for a 16 bit system. They took the 8086 and redesigned it with an 8 bit wide data bus, called it an 8088.
I have a 1983 IBM PC jr. Runs off a 1.5mhz 8088 with 512K of ram and a 128K gaming sidecar that puts the ram up to 640K. 5 1/4 floppy and no hard drive although a company sells currently an adapter to use a scsci drive on the 8 bit expansion bus.
The VC-20 Processor could be substituted for the 8088 and then drop that on the bus multiplier you could crank 15 to 20mhz, not counting any bottle necks you migth encounter. I think my best of luck was more like 9mhz. |
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06/19/2007 11:46:45 PM · #46 |
I want my C64 back. I loved that puter. Died in 1995 (probably the power supply, unknownst to me then). I spent hours in middle and high school writing programs in BASIC.
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06/20/2007 08:29:03 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
In 1989 Photoshop did run on
A Cray XMP Super Computer version 0.9 to render the water tentacle in "The Abyss" |
LOL thats funny!
Photoshop first ran on a Mac.. (Adobe releases 1990) before that it was called Image Pro. There's been 1 port of Photoshop to SGI (1995) and that flopped.. Windows didn't see Photoshop until 2.5.1
sure they used an early beta version of Photoshop to edit the photos used for the depth maps and shaders.. but they were done on a Mac II
and because they used Renderman to render i think you'll find they used SGI's or Sun Systems (i can't remember right off the top of my head) for the final output and not a cray..
The Last Star Fighter used the Cray X-MP back in 1984 for the space scenes..
Message edited by author 2007-06-20 20:30:58. |
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06/20/2007 08:40:47 PM · #48 |
Well its true. In 1988 he called it photoshop. Will provide links but so far it was discussed in an interview. The final renderings were touched up with photoshop. I used to have the models they used not sure what software they used at the time. I kinda understated when i sayed rendered i think you know hat im getting at.
Still looking for what hardware was used but this is what i found
"ILM produced the ‘water pseudopod’ creature for "The Abyss" (1989) (Oscar winner). The software used included Alias/2 and Photoshop. Dennis Muren, Mark A.Z. Dippe and John Knoll were some of the brains behind the success of the project."
BLAH I found the original news document from 1989, but id have to actually goto a library to see it lol.
I doubt im gonan find what im looking for but you might be able to find what your looking for. Ive settled on the Alias software though and found a little about it "The prospects of digital animation improved significantly with the arrival of Alias Wavefront in
1984. At the then-bargain cost of $100,000, Wavefront was the first off-the-shelf animation software
capable of producing high-quality, three-dimensional computer animations."
UNRELATED: Should check out some of Pixar's 1980's works.
Message edited by author 2007-06-20 20:53:57. |
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