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Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

06/12/2007 11:00:53 AM · #1151

Originally posted by snaffles:

btw where's the results thread? its vanished from my forums list.

Did you mean this Challenge Results Thread?

snaffles

Nikon D7100

06/12/2007 11:02:06 AM · #1152

yep, that's the one, thanks! And apologies to all for this rant but I really thought PWL would break 6. I think people will agree with me, TSers and otherwise. I will turn off scores in future before voting starts to avoid disappointment.

Message edited by author 2007-06-12 11:10:07.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

06/12/2007 12:37:13 PM · #1153

Deb,

I wasn't kidding. I love context, too, but this isn't about my taste. Here are the rulesets I want to have:

Mainstream - I will let Bear Music define the rules for this category. Allow anything that Ansel Adams did to a photograph, anything that is part of the mainstream photographic tradition. I'm quite sure Ansel wasn't averse to burning out "major elements" or "changing the typical viewer's description of the photograph."

Photojournalist - I would let Skip define this one. Allow anything a newspaper editor would allow his photographers to do.

Art - Anything that a gallery owner would allow, i.e., as long as the work is original to the photographer and wouldn't run into copyright or licensing problems. Let the voters decide if it's "photographic" enough.

I'm not going to bother suggesting these out there in the "real" non-suck world, however. I've gotten enough flak already just for suggesting one rule change.

quiet_observation

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

06/12/2007 12:51:37 PM · #1154

Thank you, Don, for at least trying.

There seems to be limited mechanisms for rule change suggestions and discussions without being "burned at the stake" as a heretic.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/12/2007 12:56:21 PM · #1155

Don, I would venture that we already have two of those rulesets here - Expert = Mainstream, and Minimal = Photojournalism.

I already tire of seeing shot after shot of an item floating in a perfectly homogenous background of black or white... but that's just me, and hell I've done it, too.

Edit to add that those shots do well here and that type of photography is not to be condemned by any means. It's just not necessarily my thing. Seems I've been pissing off people all day with my opinions. :-)

Message edited by author 2007-06-12 13:23:45.

noraneko

Canon EOS R5

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

06/12/2007 12:57:22 PM · #1156

Originally posted by snaffles:

Susan, please don't let it get you down (However, I know how frustrating it is to "almost be there"). PWL is a low-scoring challenge in general from what I've read on threads, etc. Thus, even if you don't quite get that 6, you may do well percentile wise. Looking forward to seeing the photo!

Lea - please keep us posted on Bear's surgery and your hemoglobin level. Sending lots of positive energy and warm wishes your way!

Don - please enter something truly inspired for backside. No pressure, but it is your kind of challenge. Like, totally, man.

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

06/12/2007 03:42:44 PM · #1157

Originally posted by snaffles:

Susan, I really empathize with your angst as I go through it all too often myself.

If you've not done so already, I highly recommend the side challenges/projects as they concentrate more on developing your own unique skills and tastes rather than pandering to the almighty scores.

I was having a rough spot a week or so ago, and was ready to toss in the towel (again) 'til I got hooked up in the Ordinary Things project, where I not only reclaimed some confidence and enthusiasm, but I had a shot selected as a fav,and discovered that there's something I seem to really have an eye for that I hadn't realized before. (Although it seems weird even to me that I have a *thing for old windows!)

Give it a try.....you'll find the support and camaraderie similar to what you get here.....almost!......8>)

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

06/12/2007 03:55:20 PM · #1158

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

If you've not done so already, I highly recommend the side challenges/projects as they concentrate more on developing your own unique skills and tastes rather than pandering to the almighty scores.

I had a great time in the "30 days where you live" side challenge, even though I fell behind toward the end. Once things settle down for me in the next few weeks, I might do one of those again before doing a bunch of challenges.

JerseyGenie

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

06/12/2007 03:57:44 PM · #1159

I agree with Jeb. I've found great support in the side challenges. And so do some of DPC's really fantastic photographers (IMO) such as Sandy P. So far I've thrilled with being able to PLAY to my heart's content in 30 days of "Where You Live", "Black and White", and now "Ordinary Objects".

purpleflutterby13

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

06/12/2007 04:09:12 PM · #1160

Hmm, I always figured I didn't really have the time for the 30 day challenges. But they do sound kinda fun :)
And I spend so much time taking photos anyway, I guess I might as well try one at some point...

06/12/2007 04:26:45 PM · #1161

Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:

You could do "30 days of teaching lemurs how to play with fire"!

purpleflutterby13

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED VR

06/12/2007 04:40:44 PM · #1162

Originally posted by meyers:

Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
Hmm, I always figured I didn't really have the time for the 30 day challenges. But they do sound kinda fun :)
And I spend so much time taking photos anyway, I guess I might as well try one at some point...

You could do "30 days of teaching lemurs how to play with fire"!

:D oh my god, that is so happening!

Actually, the most recent lemur plan was, well... It turns out I'll also be connected to a charity working with baobab trees while I'm there. And those things are big and crazy, and apparently you can hollow them out and use the space without harming them. So the plan was to open up a bar in one of those, teach lemurs how to juggle bottles and pour cocktails and have them employed as cute fluffy bar staff, and a fire-spinning friend of mine wanted to live in one of the spare branches, so he could a) pose for shots, and b) teach the lemurs how to fire spin while he's at it.

Flawless. Hmm, I wonder you you connect up Broadband to a baobab?

Bruce_the_Robert

Nikon D7000

06/12/2007 04:56:43 PM · #1163

You're all welcome to join the ongoing "ordinary objects" side challenge that's currently underway. Start anytime you want, stop anytime you want :) It's here:

//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=607880

Lots of fun to be had by all!

Best,

Rob

BrianR

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/12/2007 08:37:27 PM · #1164

posthumous has spotted my Candid and left a very clever comment, Thank you Don,,,

Shame the score is not higher...

Message edited by author 2007-06-12 20:39:00.

Elaine

Canon EOS R5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS II USM Lens

06/12/2007 09:52:35 PM · #1165

It's a good thing I am having fun in the 30 Day Ordinary Challenge, because it is not so fun looking at my score!

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On my way to a personal low! It has been going down steadily since yesterday. (I didn't expect much in the first place--thank goodness.) I just entered Transitions, since I would hate to not see a 4.xxx when I log in!

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

06/12/2007 10:06:24 PM · #1166

Originally posted by rheverly:

I think that's one thing that should be mentioned.....the side projects(I don't like to call them challenges-they are only challenging to YOU to take better pictures how YOU see the world) are a way to get feedback with no pressure, a way to experiment and see what others think, and most importantly, a way to find out about yourself andf your style.

What I found during the "Where I live" project, was that I could show people *MY* world, and lo and behold, they liked it from my perspective because they got a chance to see something they'd never seen before through the eyes of a kindred spirit.

And with the theme, you merely add your style and perspective to what you're shooting, and guess what......you get even better at your own style because you're developing it at the same time that you're utilizing it to its fullest potential.

'Cause that's what we do, really......f*ck the challenges.....what the TS member really does best is to be an artist and a storyteller all wrapped up in one.

I learned that her, discovered it to be true in the Where I Live project, and am seeing it again in Ordinary Things.

So....

What say you all.....each month someone has a theme for the TS project?

And don't confine it to a 30 day thing.....just have it as "The TS Theme of the Month".....join whenever, participate as you lioke, and have the only caveats be that it's all current, i.e. that the shots you share be recent and with effort expended for the theme.

Anyway.....just some random musings.....

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

06/12/2007 10:33:28 PM · #1167

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

What say you all.....each month someone has a theme for the TS project?

And don't confine it to a 30 day thing.....just have it as "The TS Theme of the Month".....join whenever, participate as you lioke, and have the only caveats be that it's all current, i.e. that the shots you share be recent and with effort expended for the theme.

I think this is a great idea! We could start a Team Suck Adventure thread each month with a new theme, and people can post their images there so they don't get lost in the noise in this thread.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

06/12/2007 10:37:38 PM · #1168

sounds good to me, though anyone should be allowed to play.

JerseyGenie

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

06/12/2007 10:44:22 PM · #1169

I'd like that a lot. TS Adventure ... all aboard?!?!?!

krnodil

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

06/12/2007 10:55:35 PM · #1170

intriguing. I'd give it a go.

griz210

Nikon D300s

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

06/12/2007 11:04:02 PM · #1171

sounds like fun. i would give it a try as time permits

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

06/12/2007 11:11:11 PM · #1172

Originally posted by posthumous:

sounds good to me, though anyone should be allowed to play.

I don't think we could restrict it even if we wanted to. People will see all the fun we're having and naturally want to join in. It's still early enough to have a theme for June..any suggestions?

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

06/13/2007 12:28:16 AM · #1173

Originally posted by meyers:

Originally posted by posthumous:
sounds good to me, though anyone should be allowed to play.

I don't think we could restrict it even if we wanted to. People will see all the fun we're having and naturally want to join in. It's still early enough to have a theme for June..any suggestions?

How about Don goes back and pulls all the random photo suggestions he's posted (ya know, like for Color Portrait: shoot the color of a parent's direction to a child as it flies in one ear and out the other) and we use those as the themes?