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11/14/2002 01:13:06 AM · #26 |
I'll echo the request that several others have made to develop a waiver. I'd be willing to sign and submit it if that would enable my daughter to continue to participate.
I'm really excited about her interest in photography and in this site. Like me, Leah checks her score every day and reads all her comments.
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11/14/2002 03:11:31 PM · #27 |
Does anybody else with kids who use the site have an opinion on this one?
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11/14/2002 04:23:17 PM · #28 |
| I have an 11 year old who is a member and I was going to sign on my 13 year old until I read this. He broke his arm in wrestly so is out of the sports loop for 2 months and I was going to teach him a little about photography and let him browse the sight, and let him submit his photos. He is bummed. I would be willing to sign a waiver too. Why did they make it the law anyway? Is it because of the pornagraphy? |
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11/14/2002 04:40:26 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
Why did they make it the law anyway? Is it because of the pornagraphy?
Ostensibly. It's really about control of information. |
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11/14/2002 07:13:57 PM · #30 |
| As many of you know, Paulina is 8. This is going to break her heart. |
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11/14/2002 07:31:22 PM · #31 |
Coppa compliance is not overly difficult... The whole thing hinges on the member profile information that is collected... Here is the government guidelines for Web site operators that wish to collect information on persons 13 years of age or younger...
Website Operators Must:
Post their privacy policy.
Websites directed to children or that knowingly collect information from kids under 13 must post a notice of their information collection practices that includes:
- types of personal information they collect from kids-for example, name, home address, email address or hobbies.
- how the site will use the information - for example, to market to the child who supplied the information, to notify contest winners or to make the information available through a child's participation in a chat room.
- whether personal information is forwarded to advertisers or other third parties.
- a contact at the site.
Get parental consent.
In many cases, a site must obtain parental consent before collecting, using or disclosing personal information about a child.
Consent is not required when a site is collecting an email address to:
- respond to a one-time request from the child.
- provide notice to the parent.
- ensure the safety of the child or the site.
- send a newsletter or other information on a regular basis as long as the site notifies a parent and gives them a chance to say no to the arrangement.
Get new consent when information-practices change in a "material" way.
Website operators need to notify parents and get consent again if they plan to change the kinds of information they collect, change how they use the information or offer the information to new and different third parties. For example, new parental consent would be required if the website decides to:
- send information from children to marketers of diet pills instead of only marketers of stuffed animals, as covered in the original consent.
- give a child access to a chat room if the parent's original consent covered only sending a newsletter.
Allow parents to review personal information collected from their children.
To do this, website operators must verify the identity of the requesting parent.
Allow parents to revoke their consent, and delete information collected from their children at the parents' request.
Parents can revoke their consent and ask that information about their children be deleted from the site's database. When a parent revokes consent, the website must stop collecting, using or disclosing information from that child. The site may end a child's participation in an activity if the information it collected was necessary for participation in the website's activity.
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11/14/2002 08:10:21 PM · #32 |
That being said, I think the only issue here is using the email addresses collected to forward Instant Messages, and I think this can reasonably be assumed to be for the child's protection (not having email revealed to the public) and would be exempt. Aside from that, it seems that all it would take is a page stating the privacy policy (which is something any site should have, even for adults) and some way to collect 'parental consent', which if I read it correctly can simply be an email address of a parent and a check-box saying "I authorize my child to provide the information requested in the member sign up".
The big question is do Drew and Langdon want to do this... With fines of up to $11,000 per violation, I would understand completely if they balked at it. In fact I'm surprised there are ANY sites left on the internet :)
In a side note to Drew and Langdon, if I read the law correctly, the only way to be safe is to have the privacy notice. It states specifically that saying "No one under 13 allowed" does not protect you if they decide that your "content is desirable by persons under 13"... Ban the young or not, I think you had best comply with the privacy statement page linked from your home page and all pages used to collect information. (Note : Shutter speed, Aperture, and ISO are not considered personal info as near as I can tell.)
Disclaimer : I ain't a lawyer! This is how I read the law... But it won't be my butt in the sling...
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/14/2002 8:09:05 PM.
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11/15/2002 12:22:52 AM · #33 |
| Thanks for posting that, mygyl. What do you think Drew and Langdon? should we get our hopes up? |
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01/13/2003 07:50:04 PM · #34 |
Drew,
I think you said you had the info for allowing younger members with parental consent. Any idea where this sits in the coding queue?
--Paul (and Isaac) |
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