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05/15/2007 07:56:28 AM · #1
a little debate to chew over...

Under advanced editing rules, you aren't allowed to create new features in your image using editing software, such as sunbursts etc. However I'm wondering whether the following would be allowed:

If you create a new image as plain black, and draw a sunburst on it using your editing software, convert the resulting image to grayscale.

Could you then use this image as a mask on an adjustment layer e.g. desat? (not that I'm thinking of any hypothetical current challenges ;-) ) I'm thinking this would create an effect as if the color is radiating out from a certain spot.

Do you think tihs would be legal? Any thoughts please.
05/15/2007 08:04:31 AM · #2
As far as I am aware it would be illegal under Minimal, Basic and Advance as it creates a new element. As one entry a while ago simply burned or painted a spot onto an image and in doing so turned a street light into an eye....using a mask to alter the light strengths over specific areas would also be creating an element.

Another member also burned into another image using different strengths and the result was ray like areas...therefore resulting in a DQ.

By writing this I am not saying if I agree or disagree with the rule...I am merely explaining the rule as it is written.
05/15/2007 08:05:19 AM · #3
I think this covers that part:

use ANY editing tool to create new image area, objects or features (such as lens flare or motion) that didn’t already exist in your original capture.

You may want to click the help link and contact the sc directly or also look back in the threads for the one where someone created seagulls and then someone else created planets in I think a way you are talking about...might have been Judi and she got DQ'd. In my mind you are creating something that wasn't in the original image.

edit...well how is that timing for you lol

Message edited by author 2007-05-15 08:07:45.
05/15/2007 08:09:29 AM · #4
I agree that this hypothetical scenario is covered by this,
Originally posted by Advanced Editing Rules::


You may NOT "use ANY editing tool to create new image area, objects or features (such as lens flare or motion) that didn’t already exist in your original capture."

It doesn't matter (to me at least) if you make a homemade tool or buy a fancy one from your software package...still a tool to create a new feature.

(The in-camera way to create stars, by the way, is to reduce the aperature of your lens.)

Message edited by author 2007-05-15 08:10:24.
05/15/2007 08:13:52 AM · #5
Originally posted by KaDi:

I agree that this hypothetical scenario is covered by this,
Originally posted by Advanced Editing Rules::


You may NOT "use ANY editing tool to create new image area, objects or features (such as lens flare or motion) that didn’t already exist in your original capture."

It doesn't matter (to me at least) if you make a homemade tool or buy a fancy one from your software package...still a tool to create a new feature.

(The in-camera way to create stars, by the way, is to reduce the aperature of your lens.)


In camera stars is determined by the number of blades!
05/15/2007 08:21:48 AM · #6
Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by KaDi:

...(The in-camera way to create stars, by the way, is to reduce the aperature of your lens.)


In camera stars is determined by the number of blades!


True...and if you can create them in-camera then you can enhance them.
05/15/2007 08:28:26 AM · #7
Originally posted by KaDi:

Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by KaDi:

...(The in-camera way to create stars, by the way, is to reduce the aperature of your lens.)


In camera stars is determined by the number of blades!


True...and if you can create them in-camera then you can enhance them.


Yes...enhance...but not create elements that weren't already there. So stars....cannot be become rays, without being classed as creating new elements that were not already there.
05/15/2007 09:30:52 AM · #8
*metaphorically chucks idea in bin*

Oh well, back to the drawing board lol
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