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05/10/2007 10:09:43 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by wavelength: Originally posted by Elvis_L:
No one knows for sure but I always thought that it could have been guilt. Look at the child in the photo, no imagine he saw hundreds or even thousands of kids like that. He could not help them and then when he gets back home he is given the highest award in his field. For what, documenting the suffering of others and not helping them? That would torture me daily. |
I think the perspective that he was under is this: how is one supposed to continue helping so many more by reporting on what is going on in the world if the reporter dies from malaria or some other nasty disease because he keeps intervening.
This one photo probably brought more help to all of the drought victims than any one act of kindness could have done. What if he had gotten sick and never delivered the film? Who knows, these questions are pretty tough and hindsight, contrary to popular belief, is not always 20/20 :/ |
I agree and sometimes what we know is the right thing in our mind conflicts with the right thing in our heart.
A firefighter may save hundreds of people in thier lifetime but letting one burn because it is too risky would haunt them for ever. |
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05/10/2007 10:10:58 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by Gareth S.:
As to Artyst and Art Roflmao. Your comments on the use of english was not only stupid, but just plain silly. The english used was the assignment verbatim. Also I haven't got much to say about American's use of the English language since I study that as well. I originally thought what you put up was mean, but when I saw pictures of what you look like, and how old you are, I kind of feel sorry for you now... |
I'm very happy now because I didn't attempt to assist you. You don't deserve the help you've gotten. |
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05/10/2007 04:28:48 PM · #28 |
Why gator? Because people insulted me and I had the balls to say something back? It actually wasnt even unsulting me directly because they mistook a professors assignment for my own. I would do what I could if someone asked for help instead of holding back (like you) or making a joke out of someone asking for help... |
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05/10/2007 04:43:37 PM · #29 |
For what it's worth- No part of me even considered your assignment in your own words- The way you wrote it makes it very clear that it's from someone else- the person who assigned the work.
I had professors who worded things just like that- and I made fun of them too. :) I belive what Artyst and Art Roflmao said was in good humor.
Message edited by author 2007-05-10 16:44:14. |
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05/10/2007 04:46:12 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Gareth S.: Why gator? Because people insulted me and I had the balls to say something back? It actually wasnt even unsulting me directly because they mistook a professors assignment for my own. I would do what I could if someone asked for help instead of holding back (like you) or making a joke out of someone asking for help... |
No one thought you wrote it, and no one insulted you. People were, instead, sympathetically pointing out that your professor gave you a basically impenetrable bit of gobbledygook in the guise of an assignment.
However, your anger, harsh reaction, and generally negative attitude are all yours. Best of luck.
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05/10/2007 04:47:07 PM · #31 |
Before jumping to conclusions about Art or Artyst, you might do a little research on them. I think you will realize that their responses were offered in good humor. At least I had a good laugh ;)
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05/10/2007 05:00:37 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by levyj413: Originally posted by Gareth S.: Why gator? Because people insulted me and I had the balls to say something back? It actually wasnt even unsulting me directly because they mistook a professors assignment for my own. I would do what I could if someone asked for help instead of holding back (like you) or making a joke out of someone asking for help... |
No one thought you wrote it, and no one insulted you. People were, instead, sympathetically pointing out that your professor gave you a basically impenetrable bit of gobbledygook in the guise of an assignment.
However, your anger, harsh reaction, and generally negative attitude are all yours. Best of luck. |
Well said Levy!
And let me add that they're not old!! You're just too young to realize that. Your response and not your age of 19 shows your immaturity. We have people who are 16 on this site that show more maturity than you just did. |
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05/10/2007 05:03:00 PM · #33 |
I give you "pneumonoÂultraÂmicroÂscopicÂsilicoÂvolcanoÂconiosis" Anyone care to raise me?
So sorry, couldn't resist. |
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05/10/2007 05:06:59 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by wavelength: Originally posted by emorgan49:
One from South Sudan? |
That guy killed himself shortly after taking that. |
Kevin Carter
Message edited by author 2007-05-10 17:10:24. |
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05/10/2007 05:12:07 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by mpeters: I give you "pneumonoÂultraÂmicroÂscopicÂsilicoÂvolcanoÂconiosis" Anyone care to raise me?
So sorry, couldn't resist. |
Not mine, but as you can see here, this isolate from the Tobacco Mosaic virus is just a wee tiny bit longer ... : ) |
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05/10/2007 07:27:37 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Gareth S.: Why gator? Because people insulted me and I had the balls to say something back? It actually wasnt even unsulting me directly because they mistook a professors assignment for my own. I would do what I could if someone asked for help instead of holding back (like you) or making a joke out of someone asking for help... |
Nobody insulted you. Maybe it's you who has the problem understanding the English language, in spite of your "studies".
You, on the other hand, jumped right in with both feet insulting their age and their appearance. Instead of arguing their points (which in my opinion, you misunderstood), you attacked them on a personal level.
No excuse for that.
Message edited by author 2007-05-10 19:28:27. |
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05/10/2007 07:30:04 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by mpeters: I give you "pneumonoÂultraÂmicroÂscopicÂsilicoÂvolcanoÂconiosis" Anyone care to raise me?
So sorry, couldn't resist. |
Not mine, but as you can see here, this isolate from the Tobacco Mosaic virus is just a wee tiny bit longer ... : ) |
FOLD! |
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05/10/2007 08:04:57 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by aerogurl: these are the three that come to mind when thinking of the most importat photojournalism photos..
iwo jima
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I highly recommend watching "Flags of our Fathers". It is an amazing movie about how this iconic image took on a life of its own. The truth is this shot was taken when a group of soldiers had to raise the flag to replace the original flag raised over the island. A Senator wanted the original flag flown over Iwo Jima to put on the wall in his office so it was taken down and replaced. No photo of the original flag being raised was ever taken. The Marines in this image were brought back to the US and toured the country as the "Heroes" of Iwo Jima to sell war bonds that would finance the war effort. They never felt like heroes because they knew the truth behind the photo.
One spin to take on your project might be to discuss the truth behind some of these iconic images. Very similar to the previous post about who was working the camera of the first man on the moon photo. |
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05/10/2007 08:15:28 PM · #39 |
David (scarbrd) was right on my lines. I thought of the execution shot and the girl post bombing as well.
Then I thought of Pamela Anderson...
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05/10/2007 08:16:42 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao: Do people actually speak like that?? |
Originally posted by Artyste: Sesquipedalians do. |
Hilarious!
Originally posted by MPRPRO: Sounds like a overly self important left wing professor ... |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle: ... I don't think it's possible to infer the professor's political leanings from this one sentence.
... The political commentary seems rather gratuitous, and is irrelevant to the discussion in any case. |
Here here!
And by the way, it's *an* overly important professor, not *a* overly important professor. Tsk, tsk. ;-)
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05/10/2007 09:40:37 PM · #41 |
some historical photographic records might have been staged before the shot was taken. and at times, the photo does not tell the true story of events that was depicted in the photo. for instance, the photo about the person who seemed to have stopped a fleet of tanks tells a false story (or if you prefer, guides the viewer to make a false assumption) because he merely stopped the fleet for few seconds before he was arrested. |
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05/10/2007 09:49:54 PM · #42 |
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05/10/2007 09:58:14 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by crayon: some historical photographic records might have been staged before the shot was taken. and at times, the photo does not tell the true story of events that was depicted in the photo. for instance, the photo about the person who seemed to have stopped a fleet of tanks tells a false story (or if you prefer, guides the viewer to make a false assumption) because he merely stopped the fleet for few seconds before he was arrested. |
But he DID stop them and proved that one courageous man can make a difference, even if only for an instant. |
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05/10/2007 10:13:18 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by eamurdock: Originally posted by Art Roflmao: Originally posted by Gareth S.: "My ability to recognize 'an image' neither involves nor matches necessary inference towards (its) creator. It is rather an ability which presupposes competence within society, that is socially-constructed codes of recognition" |
Do people actually speak like that?? |
...I will argue that there is a place for this kind of discourse; and that the language of many highly-specialized disciplines sounds silly outside of its natural habitat.
So while this is not a well-turned sentence, the verbosity itself is not inappropriate within the context of a discussion of media.... |
"...Verbosity itself is not inappropropriate within the context of a discussion of..." I think it's quite inappropriate to muddy the waters, particularly when it is taught. If people speak like this, what might their thoughts be like? |
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05/10/2007 10:20:25 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: David (scarbrd) was right on my lines. I thought of the execution shot and the girl post bombing as well.
Then I thought of Pamela Anderson... |
What a deep thinker you are!
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05/10/2007 10:21:14 PM · #46 |
"behind every awesome lurks a psychopath"
Originally posted by zeuszen: Originally posted by eamurdock: Originally posted by Art Roflmao: Originally posted by Gareth S.: "My ability to recognize 'an image' neither involves nor matches necessary inference towards (its) creator. It is rather an ability which presupposes competence within society, that is socially-constructed codes of recognition" |
Do people actually speak like that?? |
...I will argue that there is a place for this kind of discourse; and that the language of many highly-specialized disciplines sounds silly outside of its natural habitat.
So while this is not a well-turned sentence, the verbosity itself is not inappropriate within the context of a discussion of media.... |
"...Verbosity itself is not inappropropriate within the context of a discussion of..." I think it's quite inappropriate to muddy the waters, particularly when it is taught. If people speak like this, what might their thoughts be like? |
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05/12/2007 01:10:25 PM · #47 |
I agree with other commentators that you misunderstood the comments of Art ROFLMAO and others so calm down. If your still listening though I'm surprised no-one mentioned 'The falling soldier' by Capa, which despite its controversy is one of the earliest pieces of photojournalistic photography. If nothing else you could say that the controversy over its authenticity at least helped to encourage photographers and publishers to be more careful about journalistic integrity. For this reason as well as the inspiration Capa's work gave to many of the early photojournalists make it one of the most important of photojournalistic shots. |
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05/13/2007 12:34:04 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by seenosun: The truth is this shot was taken when a group of soldiers had to raise the flag to replace the original flag raised over the island. A Senator wanted the original flag flown over Iwo Jima to put on the wall in his office so it was taken down and replaced. No photo of the original flag being raised was ever taken. |
You were correct on the first part, partially correct on the second part (the Secretary of the Navy wanted the flag), and wrong on the third part (photographer Louis Lowery snapped a picture of the first flag raising). |
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05/15/2007 10:43:31 AM · #49 |
This is one of the most representatives in spanish recient history.
Falling soldier (Death of a republican soldier during spanish civil war 1936-1939).
Robert Capa
Message edited by author 2007-05-15 10:47:13. |
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05/15/2007 12:12:03 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by C_A_Morris: The first picture that came to my mind was The Unknown Rebel of Tiananmen Square. I have several others, but I don't think I could get it down to a list of just three unless I absolutely had to.
Originally posted by jemison: I always wondered who was holding the camera...
Man first walks on the moon.
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Armstrong---there are no pictures of Armstrong on the surface of the moon (outside of reflections on Aldrin's helmet). |
Armstrong? pfft, everyone knows it was taken by a guy on the back of the sound stage where they were shooting the moving footage.
Message edited by author 2007-05-15 17:35:07. |
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