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 07/16/2003 10:17:11 AM · #1
Hey there

I enjoy taking pics on Rock concerts ..
on the following link you can see pics of a Mastodon gig that i went on with my 10D //www.zeranico.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album-10

I was wondering if any of you could give me tips on how to improve this kind of photography....

I have tried using the built in flash but thats hopeless I think...
I like them darkly lit but crispy clear and strong

Message edited by author 2003-07-16 10:21:05.
 07/16/2003 10:32:42 AM · #2
... and here I was expecting shots of a geological nature ... LOL
 07/16/2003 10:40:03 AM · #3
May I ask what lens and shutter/aperture/ISO settings you used? Also your typical focal length.

I'm looking at getting into this locally, and in fact have a job coming up. This will be my first job of this type with the 10D.

-Terry
 07/16/2003 10:43:21 AM · #4
I have to check when I get home to say for sure but I used the lowest aperture setting on the lens and i think I used ISO 800
not sure on the shutter speed
 07/16/2003 10:55:57 AM · #5
check these out:







there is a thread in q+A forum that i started a looong time ago about band photography tips with loads of good info, but i cant find it atm. might wanna take a peek for it...
 07/16/2003 10:57:46 AM · #6
those are Cool, but it seems you got better lighting than I did;)

Message edited by author 2003-07-16 10:57:58.
 07/16/2003 11:01:51 AM · #7
thanks.

iso 1600 is actually really useable on the 10D. esp after resizing for web use. even without, i find it's grain patterns pleaseing :) ..

more iso 1600 shot:



Originally posted by Nazgul:
those are Cool, but it seems you got better lighting than I did;)



 07/16/2003 11:24:08 AM · #8
Here is my rock photography:

07/16/2003 02:57:14 PM · #9
Originally posted by Nazgul:
I have to check when I get home to say for sure but I used the lowest aperture setting on the lens and i think I used ISO 800
not sure on the shutter speed


Do you remember which lens you were shooting with? I'm thinking of getting a fast (f/1.8 or 1.4) 50mm lens and am wondering if it is worthwhile.

-Terry

Message edited by author 2003-07-16 14:58:37.
 07/16/2003 04:00:11 PM · #10
I used an old Canon EF 35-70mm 1:3,5-4,5

oh and I only used ISO 400, Esposure time 1/15s and aperture 4

Message edited by author 2003-07-16 16:01:53.
 07/16/2003 04:39:14 PM · #11
Ãg mæli alveg með að þú kaupir þér flash á vélina þína. Ãað munar öllu að hafa það. Ãú skellir þér á Speedlite 550EX flashið. Ãað er alveg að gera góða hluti.

Ef þú hefur efni að fá þér 16-35mm F/2.8 linsu þá er það mjög gott plan. Gaman að vera með víða linsu. Ãó það sé ekkert nauðsynlegt. Ãað er líka gott að eiga einhverja góða zoom-linsu. Kannski 70-200mm F/2.8.

Með því að taka á F/2.8 þá geturðu tekið á meiri hraða. Kannski 1/40-1/60. Jafnvel meira. Fer bara eftir því hvernig ljósið er. Svo er líka sniðugt að taka á kannski F/11 og 1/3". Jafnvel fara upp í sekúndu. Fer einnig eftir ljósi. Og svo stillirðu flash-ið þannig að það flashi í endann. Ãannig að það er opið án flash og svo bara rétt undir lokin þá flashar flashið. Ãá kemur svona skemmtilegur effect.

Hérna er eitthvað af tónleikamyndunum mínum:
Sick of it All
Maus
Hell is for Heroes

Ãað er fínt að vera með vélina stillt á annaðhvort 400 eða 800. Ef þú ert að taka á löngum tíma þá er 400 fínt. En kannski skella því upp í 800 ef þú ert að taka án flash. Fer líka eftir linsunni. Dugar að hafa 400 ef þú ert með ljósop 2.8 eða minna. Svo er bara að prufa sig áfram. Og svo er líka skemmtilegt að reyna að koma áhorfendum inn í spilið. Fínt að ná mynd af bandinu og áhorfendum saman. Og þá er betra að vera með víða linsu. Og svo líka fínt að taka myndir bara af áhorfendum.

Gangi þér vel með þetta.
 07/16/2003 04:41:44 PM · #12
Ãrni, would you mind translating?

Your photography is excellent and I'd love the benefit of your expertise, as this is an area of photography I am also interested in.

Thanks in advance,
Terry
 07/16/2003 04:44:17 PM · #13
it's great when people post on an international website in a language that only a few people can read :)


07/16/2003 06:21:05 PM · #14
Hehe... i'm sorry. Here we go :)

I think you should buy yourself the Speedlite 550EX flash. I've used one for almost a year now and it is just great!

If you are willing to spend some money I recommend the 16-35mm F/2.8L lense and the 70-200mm F/2.8L. It is quit good to be able to shoot at F/2.8 in often poorly lit concerts.

If you shoot at F/2.8 your speed will go up. Maby up to 1/20 or 1/60 even. Depends on the light. If you have an IS (Image Stabilizer) lense it is good to have that effect turned on. It is also quite good to take picture at F/11-F/22 and at speeds of 1/3" up to 2-3". You will get an excellent effect. This will only work properly if you flash in the end. You can adjust your Speedlite 550EX to flash in the end. Press the - and + buttons together until you see this small mark on the right side of the back monitor of the flash.

If you are shooting at F/2.8 or lower it should be ok to have your ISO at 400. It also depends on how much light there is in the hall. If you are using the flash 400 should be enough.

The audince is important. Remember to take picture of them. Getting picture of the audience and the band together makes a great shot. They are sometimes more exciting than just band-pictures.

Remember to get both close-ups and wide-angel shots.

Take alot of picture! Try what ever you think will come out cool.

To sum up:
1. When you shoot, shoot in burst mode. Take 3-4 picture in a row. Because often the first picture is shaken because you shake it when you press the button the first time. Then you just hold it in for 2-3 more shots.

2. Long time exposure and flashing at the end. It makes a great effect.

3. Remember to take pictures of the audience. Audience with the band often makes a great shot.

4. Have fun.
 07/16/2003 06:44:35 PM · #15
Ãakka góð ráð ......

Ãg er nú samt hræddur um að fjárhagurinn leyfi mér ekki að kaupa linsu á 200k og flass fyrir 50....

kannski seinna þegar Kerrang eru farnir að greiða mér hjólbörufarma af dollaraseðlum fyrir myndatökur;)
 07/16/2003 06:47:30 PM · #16
hey nazgul, did u ever find out what happened to your old account?


07/16/2003 06:49:57 PM · #17
well in fact no...

some guy said he could reactivate it and nothing happened..
that means they wount get a penny from me as I was thinking about upgrading to a member;)
 07/16/2003 06:51:03 PM · #18
why did it disappear in the first place?


07/16/2003 06:53:07 PM · #19
coz i asked in the forum if it was possible to delete my account! and he figured i was dropping a hint ...

Plus I changed my e-mail adress to something rather offensive:o

Message edited by author 2003-07-16 18:53:53.
 07/16/2003 06:56:05 PM · #20
For less money, the 50mm f1.8 will give you a really wide open aperture for about $60 (US)

Rear curtain sync I think is also set as a custom function on the camera - it is for the D60 with a 420EX - not sure if that changes with the 550EX or not. This tends to give more 'normal' looking flash shots for long exposure/ flash / slow flash sync shots.

Flash with the Canon cameras works in two ways
In P mode, the flash is mostly assumed to be the only/ main light source.
Shutter speed is set between 1/60s and Xsync (about 1/200s normally) to avoid camera shake.

In Av/ Tv mode exposure is based on exposing for the background, and assumes the flash is just going to be fill - so you'll typicaly get long exposures, even with flash.

In M mode, the exposure is set for the background /ambient light and flash is controlled to give good foreground fill. Typically 'good foreground fill' is under the focus point.
 07/16/2003 07:05:16 PM · #21
I'm going to germany in a few weeks to shoot a rock festival, and I'm looking for any advice anyone can offer, since I don't have much experience. I've read the article at photo.net, I've gotten some advice from a friend who does it for a living (he's the guy I'm shooting for), and now I read Arnit's advice as well. Anything to add?

I won't have access to the photo pit (it's only for printed magazines), so the flash won't do me much good. My Dimage can shoot at F3.5 in the tele end. Will that be enough at 800 ISO? I figured I would shoot at 1/60 to at least avoid too much camera shake. Or do I need to use an even slower shutter speed?

A lot of things to wonder about, but I want to do the best I can :-)
07/16/2003 07:31:26 PM · #22
My coolpix 2500 doesn't have a flash worth using in these contexts, so here's what I've gotten:
Our Lady Peace

And Local H
07/16/2003 08:03:23 PM · #23
Hard rock
or soft rock
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