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 04/27/2007 06:25:18 PM · #26
Originally posted by missinseattle:

Also, anyone ordered on Ebay? I've never ordered anything from there but have noticed packaged deals that look pretty good.
canon 5d


I'm not going to say anything about type of camera, but I will warn you against package deals.

The crap that comes in the package is how they make money, you are almost always better off getting the camera and accessories separately. The link above in particular has some pretty crappy lenses. You're much better off making those selections (lens, lighting, tripods, etc) yourself.
 04/27/2007 06:44:39 PM · #27
Originally posted by Sting11165:
Originally posted by missinseattle:

Also, anyone ordered on Ebay? I've never ordered anything from there but have noticed packaged deals that look pretty good.
canon 5d


I'm not going to say anything about type of camera, but I will warn you against package deals.

The crap that comes in the package is how they make money, you are almost always better off getting the camera and accessories separately. The link above in particular has some pretty crappy lenses. You're much better off making those selections (lens, lighting, tripods, etc) yourself.


Most package deals are crap, but some of the packages that B&H puts together are decent. Just make sure that it's all stuff you want.
 04/27/2007 07:32:48 PM · #28
The "Pro" wide angle lens in that kit is about 35 to 60$ at a lot of sites on eBay. Not the $399.00 that they are saying it retials for. It must really be special.
I noticed that the store in your link urges payment by cashiers check to get upgrades, at the bottom line.
Here's a recent thread.
Link to thread about Cameraworld

Message edited by author 2007-04-27 19:39:45.
 04/27/2007 07:37:18 PM · #29
I bought my Canon in February. Canon has deals around that time and I waited for them and saved myself all up about $1000.00AUD. I also held and used the cameras that I was looking at and loved the solid feel of the Canon body compared to the lighter plastic feel of some others. If you can buy at a store than you have the ability to hold and 'feel' the camera. Makes a difference, at least it did for me.

I also have to agree with other posts that a great camera will not made a great photographer. So what ever you go for it will be your skills/ learned or natural that will make the photo. If you gave one of DPC's best photographer a basic DSLR they would still have a great photo due considering light, composition etc.
 04/27/2007 07:43:22 PM · #30
Hi there,

I don't know anything about either of those, but thought it worth mentioning that I recently upgraded from a Canon 300d to a Canon 30D and the biggest hurdle for me is the WEIGHT of the camera.

I would never have really considered before just how much this is an issue for me.

My hands fit the camera beautifully and I LOVE the weighty feel and construction, but it does effect my ability to hold the camera still while shooting.

I was happy to notice when out window shopping for my upgrade that the 5D was WAY TOO HEAVY for me - that way I don't long for it and am perfectly happy with my midrange 30D.

So my advice is go HOLD them both and see how you'd BE with one.
 04/27/2007 09:13:16 PM · #31
Thank you ALL for the wonderful advice.

So I'm getting that I'd be better off to just buy the camera body and get what I really want on top of that- which is what I'm intending on doing anyways. I was just cursious as to how good those packages were which is why I asked.

I happened to get kit when I bought my Oly and it's been fine- came with camera and 2 lenses.

This is HUGE investment and I don't plan on ever upgrading after this. I want quality, clarity, and color. While I do a lot of outdoor shooting, I want something that will be just as good indoors.

I will be holding off till fall before I buy- by then I'll have enough money saved up to be able to buy comera body, lens, and memory. RIght now I could buy a D200 body and that's about it.

I wish there was a way I could rent each camera and use it for a weekend. Holding it in the store just doesn't give me the greatest idea of if it's what I want or not.

And weight wise- anything that I'm going to be carrying around hiking- I would probably end up carrying my Oly if it was an extensive hike. I am primarily looking at this all as a business investment and what is going to work best for outdoor/indoor portraits.

Message edited by author 2007-04-27 21:15:12.
 04/27/2007 09:47:22 PM · #32
You might want to check around if there are any large camera stores in your area as they likely will rent them. I know that Glazer's in Seattle does but that won't do you any good where you are.

My two cents worth is for you to go with the Canon 5D if you intend to stay with portrait work as it is a much cleaner camera. If you are going into nature photography then I would lean to the Nikon D200 as I believe it is tougher.

Good luck
 04/28/2007 09:15:17 PM · #33
Originally posted by iamwoman:
Hi there,

I don't know anything about either of those, but thought it worth mentioning that I recently upgraded from a Canon 300d to a Canon 30D and the biggest hurdle for me is the WEIGHT of the camera.

I would never have really considered before just how much this is an issue for me.

My hands fit the camera beautifully and I LOVE the weighty feel and construction, but it does effect my ability to hold the camera still while shooting.

I was happy to notice when out window shopping for my upgrade that the 5D was WAY TOO HEAVY for me - that way I don't long for it and am perfectly happy with my midrange 30D.

So my advice is go HOLD them both and see how you'd BE with one.


I think I am woman is 100% correct about the weight of the camera. Also, my brother says the 5D is comparable to his D2X, and his D2X is really a studio camera. He spent almost $4000 on that silly thing, and he still mostly uses his D70. He's actually considering selling his D2X to get a D200.

Have you considered the 30D? I'd marry mine if I could. Nikon makes a great camera (so says my brother), but Canon has more accessories available. ;-) The only reason I kind of wish I'd gone Nikon is because then I could have bumbed equipment off my brother. But, I'm too deeply invested in Canon now to switch.

Message edited by author 2007-04-28 21:18:39.
 04/28/2007 09:33:12 PM · #34
Really they're two different tools that shouldn't be compared.

The higher frame rate of the D200 makes it more suitable for sport and PJ work while the FF sensor and mpixel count of the 5D makes it more suitable for landscapes and studio work.

You should base your choice on what you plan to be shooting more often.

Just my 2c.

bazz
 04/29/2007 09:06:27 AM · #35
This will be mainly for studio work and landscapes. I'm not worried about the weight of it, I know it's heavy- everything feels heavier then my Oly, I'll be using my Oly for when we go hiking and things like that.

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