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 04/18/2007 08:35:14 PM · #1
Conspiracy theory

I've been watching my challenge scores and reading the voting threads, trying to rationalize how the same image can merit a 9 form one person and a 1 from another. I understand that each person's vote is a statement of their opinion of a picture, how they assess the technical aspects and how the effects them on an emotional level, and as such it is totally subjective.

But think about this......

During the past few weeks there have been several threads in which the we, the people, have encountered certain outside events that have caused some of us to respond rather outspokenly.
I refer to our encounters with those who take liberties with our work and even the NaturalBeauty lady.
In all these incidents we have been more than vocal in our response, openly showing our contempt in our own forums and then sending emails to transgressors, posting on their forums, notifying ISPs and hosting services, thus attracting attention to ourselves and our happy little world.

Is it too difficult to imagine these individuals seeking retaliation ?
Clandestine agents of revenge, who have quietly infiltrated our ranks and assessed our weaknesses, and now strike at that which we hold most sacred, our challenges and our scores.

Ask yourself, did your image really deserve that 1?
Are you really that far out of touch with your own self expression and the sensibility of the other "true" members?
Or are there evil doers among us?

Do we just ignore this diabolical threat?
Can we just leave this to the anonymous autonomic vote analysis programing, which have never been explained in detail?
Should we place the onus on the already overburdened Security Council members?

I say NO!!!

Its time for all of to look to our neighbors, those above and below us in the member lists.
Track their voting patterns, the information of there if you look, easy to decipher just like individual votes in a challenge. When their total votes change, do the math, the truth is out there.

We should not tolerate this contamination of our natural creative jucies.
 04/18/2007 08:38:34 PM · #2
Hear Hear
 04/18/2007 08:39:16 PM · #3
Today, I'm right in line behind you...

What a totally awful day of voting.
 04/18/2007 08:41:27 PM · #4
the trick may be to submit a photo without a discerning style
 04/18/2007 08:43:40 PM · #5
Originally posted by crayon:
the trick may be to submit a photo without a discerning style


Hey , I resemble that remark.
 04/18/2007 08:52:07 PM · #6
Are you serious? You really want to focus everyone's attention on everyone else's voting? Talk about affecting our collective creative output!

But why rely on everyone else when you can do it yourself? Just for kicks, I searched the profiles for every registered user who's joined since April 1. I'm assuming no one thinks it's worth spending money just to vote low on some photos.

I looked at the first 30 that came up. Exactly 1 had voted at all. His average vote given is 3.86.

Then I searched for registered users who joined between March 18-March 31 and looked at the first dozen or so. Exactly 1 had voted at all. His average vote given is 6.77.

So out of 40 or so, two had ever voted, with very different results.

By the way, SC is "Site Council," not "Security Council." Puts a somewhat less angst-inducing spin on it. :)
 04/18/2007 08:57:00 PM · #7
I agree and I think they are all out to get me on my landscape challenge!! All of them! :)
 04/18/2007 09:04:14 PM · #8
Originally posted by hipychik:
I agree and I think they are all out to get me on my landscape challenge!! All of them! :)

That's because we ARE.

hehe
 04/18/2007 09:04:43 PM · #9
So, does this mean we can break out the pitchforks and torches and march on their villages? ;-)
 04/18/2007 09:10:38 PM · #10
Said by someone who's average vote cast is BELOW average. I guess you won't have to look too far. :)
 04/18/2007 09:56:27 PM · #11
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Said by someone who's average vote cast is BELOW average. I guess you won't have to look too far. :)


Hold on there....I don't have to take remarks like that from an upstart, when you've been here as long as I have..... oh wait you have been....never mind.
 04/18/2007 10:43:33 PM · #12
Reality theory:

Some people are just mean and/or have no taste. Searching though avg. votes cast isn't particularly useful since the true trolls often have their votes flushed down the virtual toilet at rollover (and those aren't reflected in the average). Just think of the voting graphs as an interesting statistic: you get a weekly count of the active members and the loons at a glance. ;-)
 04/18/2007 11:30:05 PM · #13
Man who use tongue in cheek usually ends up with foot in ass.
Pooh conspiracy!
They'll never take me alive. Ha,ha ha.ha!
04/18/2007 11:49:44 PM · #14
i've long suspected that langdon runs the whole site. and i mean really "run" it, god-like style! all those voting, average scores and everything else you think you (or any other member on the site) has control over, are just faked numbers to keep you content. once in awhile they put up some "scape-goat" and accuse him of cheating to make everything appear normal and less suspicious!

of course, i dont exist. i'm just a scripted BOT that runs on scheduled intervals to make it even more convincing.

long live conspiracy theorists! :p
 04/18/2007 11:52:36 PM · #15
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
So, does this mean we can break out the pitchforks and torches and march on their villages? ;-)

I say we rebel and overthrow sc >.>
 04/18/2007 11:53:48 PM · #16
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
So, does this mean we can break out the pitchforks and torches and march on their villages? ;-)

I say we rebel and overthrow sc >.>

If we do, I want to be "Dictator for Life"
 04/18/2007 11:54:39 PM · #17
Originally posted by crayon:

....of course, i dont exist. i'm just a scripted BOT that runs on scheduled intervals to make it even more convincing.

long live conspiracy theorists! :p


WOW...That explains a lot hehehehe :O)

Ray
 04/18/2007 11:56:39 PM · #18
But isn't the whole idea of having a website to keep the people especially the paying members happy... Clearly there aren't happy people out there
 04/18/2007 11:56:50 PM · #19
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
So, does this mean we can break out the pitchforks and torches and march on their villages? ;-)

I say we rebel and overthrow sc >.>


Say, Amy, why?
 04/18/2007 11:57:48 PM · #20
Originally posted by ursula:
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
So, does this mean we can break out the pitchforks and torches and march on their villages? ;-)

I say we rebel and overthrow sc >.>


Say, Amy, why?

I like you ursula thats about it >.>
 04/18/2007 11:59:04 PM · #21
Originally posted by ursula:
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
So, does this mean we can break out the pitchforks and torches and march on their villages? ;-)

I say we rebel and overthrow sc >.>


Say, Amy, why?

she's one of those "awakened" human battery cells.
it is time we flush her out of the system.
she must not infect other cells
(been watching too much of The Matrix)
 04/19/2007 12:01:10 AM · #22
*Chases after Crayon with some Matrix like thing?*
O.o
 04/19/2007 12:06:35 AM · #23
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Said by someone who's average vote cast is BELOW average. I guess you won't have to look too far. :)


Why must an average given vote be above 5.5 for an opinion to matter or an outrage to be valid? Why do people with higher average scores given often seem to think they're holier than thou? The truth is that you don't know how that person votes. Personally, I can't remember the last time I gave a vote lower than 3, and that score is reserved for nothing-special DNMCs, but I do hand out lots of fives, and a few less sixes than fives, and 7-10 are reserved for the really good stuff. Somehow, that works out to 5.3, which by certain standards somehow makes me a troll. How darest any soul wretched as mine utter an opinion, eh? :P
 04/19/2007 12:06:49 AM · #24
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
*Chases after Crayon with some Matrix like thing?*
O.o


girl, you've got to properly define that "thing" you are chasing me with. coz i might just stop running and let ya catch me if that "thing" is what i think it is :p
 04/19/2007 12:19:42 AM · #25
While I like the conspiracy theory...

I think part of the issue might be WHAT aspect of the image people are voting on, technique or subject. In my opinion this is a site that should be voting on how well you executed an image NOT what the image is of. While the subject is important, I feel it should take a back seat in most challenges.

This in unavoidable, every picture will strike everyone differently and it is nearly impossible to look ONLY at the technical aspects of an image without the entire subject swaying your vote either way. I have fought with this myself on many images I felt were just plain disturbing to me and have had to fix my vote after looking at how the image was done.

That is why we will most likly never see an image of road kill splattered all the way down the street as a ribbon winner, even in a red or animal challenge...(maybe in a abstract one but that's different) but you show a nice looking person or great scenery then you have a winner.

Some may say, "not true, look at the current red ribbon for chains". Well yeah, I guess that image could be put into what I said but not really, it is a classy posed image, not really disturbing or unpleasant to look at. I believe that if it was actually a disturbing image or one people found hard to look at, it wouldn't be on the front page. You can usually find example of this in the lower half of challenge results where images maybe exectured well but the subject is somewhat questionable. The last pages of the recent night challenge shows prime examples of this.
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