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03/30/2007 02:58:05 PM · #76 |
blah blah blah ... shoot yer shot and take yer chances ... sheesh ...
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03/30/2007 03:02:56 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by ralph:
i predict at least one DNMC comment for mine ;) |
I predict no comments on mine. |
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03/30/2007 03:14:26 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by JunieMoon:
Originally posted by ralph:
i predict at least one DNMC comment for mine ;) |
I predict no comments on mine. |
You can get a special ribbon for that, you know. If you manage to make it through the challenge without any comments, let me know - I'll hook you up. :-) |
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03/30/2007 03:20:08 PM · #79 |
I just about went blind shooting into the friggin' sun so no DNMC for me. Stupid DNMC Nazis. Swastikas will replace ribbons if they have their way! :)
And NO it doesn't have to be sun. Shooting into a main source of light is enough in my books. I just chose the sun because I like blinding myself.
ETA: Okay, the way I said that (sarcasm?) it made it sound like I believed you have to have sun involved. Honestly, I took my shot outside into the sun because that's what I was going for and not for a narrow minded perspective on the challenge.
Message edited by author 2007-03-31 03:12:08. |
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03/30/2007 03:39:29 PM · #80 |
This is also Contre-Jour, Against the light Photography, as mentioned in the challenge details.
This image was downloaded from an against the light gallery.
So it would seem that not all Contre-jour photos have a silhouette with a sourcs of light, a panoramic scene with the sun ahead of the camera would also meet the challenge.
Message edited by author 2007-03-30 15:56:36.
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03/30/2007 03:40:34 PM · #81 |
| Im using my 1.3 MP cell phone for this challenge... again! |
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03/30/2007 03:46:12 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
Please help - Has it been decided ... |
The forums do not "decide" anything -- they are a place for opinionated folks to express their views (often repeatedly) in writing.
You need to decide for yourself how to interpret the challenge topic and take a photo you like which meets that definition. People will vote how they want anyway, and for as many people who try to narrow the definition down there are others who admire alternative, offbeat, or even off-the-wall interpretations. Do not mistake the DPC score as a true evaluation of the quality of your shot : ) |
The best that could be said, I agree why should the challenge be discussed before voting, each do there own research and decide for themselves.
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03/30/2007 08:23:37 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by hywind:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
Please help - Has it been decided ... |
The forums do not "decide" anything -- they are a place for opinionated folks to express their views (often repeatedly) in writing.
You need to decide for yourself how to interpret the challenge topic and take a photo you like which meets that definition. People will vote how they want anyway, and for as many people who try to narrow the definition down there are others who admire alternative, offbeat, or even off-the-wall interpretations. Do not mistake the DPC score as a true evaluation of the quality of your shot : ) |
The best that could be said, I agree why should the challenge be discussed before voting, each do there own research and decide for themselves. |
Thanks for that line on mistaking dpc scores as a true evaluation of quality. It is very hard to keep that in mind, especially when you don't have any other photo outlets. I think that is why so many take these scores seriously. This is just a game, nothing more. Compare it to an arcade game. Sometimes you do well, sometimes you don't. Thankfully, I have finally found a direction for my photography, and it is really coming alive outside of dp. However, dp gave me the courage to try, and I thank all of the folks here for that. I still enjoy challenges, and contre jour is one more technique I have not tried. Have fun and don't worry about what others interpret your image as. My spinning image I had so much fun with, as I did with contre jour. Scores won't be great, but it has pushed me to try new things, and that is really what thrills me most. |
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03/31/2007 02:24:16 AM · #84 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
A little birdie told me that's where the challenge description came from ;-) |
Actually, the quote for the challenge description came directly from About:photography
Here's the text from that website:
"Definition: Contre-jour means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source.
Portraits taken contre-jour will show a bright halo of light in the hair. Fill in light will be needed to show detail in the face, or it can be kept dark to give a silhouette.
Strong light shining towards the camera has a tendency to produce flare; you should normally use a lens hood to exclude light from outside the pictures area."
Here's the text from the challenge description:
Contre-jour is a photographic term that means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source. Capture a photo using this technique.
I was always taught in writing classes to put quotations marks around direct quotations. Maybe the site council needs a little refresher course on writing ethics. |
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03/31/2007 02:45:52 AM · #85 |
Originally posted by charliebaker:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
A little birdie told me that's where the challenge description came from ;-) |
Actually, the quote for the challenge description came directly from About:photography
Here's the text from that website:
"Definition: Contre-jour means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source.
Portraits taken contre-jour will show a bright halo of light in the hair. Fill in light will be needed to show detail in the face, or it can be kept dark to give a silhouette.
Strong light shining towards the camera has a tendency to produce flare; you should normally use a lens hood to exclude light from outside the pictures area."
Here's the text from the challenge description:
Contre-jour is a photographic term that means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source. Capture a photo using this technique.
I was always taught in writing classes to put quotations marks around direct quotations. Maybe the site council needs a little refresher course on writing ethics. |
"That was a definition; surly a "definition" does need quotations marks; definitions are public domain. What is fusel fuel? Fusel fuel is â€Â¦; what is a tree? A tree isâ€Â¦.; what is love? Love is â€Â¦
I think you prematurely jumped into the ethics issue here.
And pardon my English, please, I am Arab, and English is not my mother tongue.
Ohâ€Â¦ I have put quotations marks around my reply just in case."
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03/31/2007 03:14:02 AM · #86 |
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Originally posted by charliebaker:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
A little birdie told me that's where the challenge description came from ;-) |
Actually, the quote for the challenge description came directly from About:photography
Here's the text from that website:
"Definition: Contre-jour means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source.
Portraits taken contre-jour will show a bright halo of light in the hair. Fill in light will be needed to show detail in the face, or it can be kept dark to give a silhouette.
Strong light shining towards the camera has a tendency to produce flare; you should normally use a lens hood to exclude light from outside the pictures area."
Here's the text from the challenge description:
Contre-jour is a photographic term that means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source. Capture a photo using this technique.
I was always taught in writing classes to put quotations marks around direct quotations. Maybe the site council needs a little refresher course on writing ethics. |
"That was a definition; surly a "definition" does need quotations marks; definitions are public domain. What is fusel fuel? Fusel fuel is â€Â¦; what is a tree? A tree isâ€Â¦.; what is love? Love is â€Â¦
I think you prematurely jumped into the ethics issue here.
And pardon my English, please, I am Arab, and English is not my mother tongue.
Ohâ€Â¦ I have put quotations marks around my reply just in case." |
Its actually a quote from Wikipedia. When you quote other people's word you should put quotes around it. Unless you are on a forum in which case it is clearly marked. i.e. Originally posted by Bob Loblaw
Back to the darn topic!
ETA: The really big multi tiered quote at the beginning was deliberate :)
Message edited by author 2007-03-31 03:14:36. |
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03/31/2007 04:57:32 AM · #87 |
Posted by Citadel:Its actually a quote from Wikipedia. When you quote other people's word you should put quotes around it. Unless you are on a forum in which case it is clearly marked.
Though I agree with Citadel that quotations should be placed around word for word quotes, I disagree with his source for the "Contre-Jour" challenge entry description. Here's the text from the Wikipedia's article on contre-jour: (Bold is full text of the About:photography definition of "contre-jour", italics are the words lifted word for word from this definition and used by DPC challenge description:
Contre-jour means 'against the light' and refers to pictures taken when the camera is pointing towards (or roughly towards) the main light source. Portraits taken contre-jour will show a bright halo of light in the hair. Fill in light will be needed to show detail in the face, or it can be kept dark to give a silhouette. Strong light shining towards the camera has a tendency to produce flare; you should normally use a lens hood to exclude light from outside the pictures area.
I stand by my previous post that the challenge description was taken word for word from About:photography
Yes: Back to the subject of this forum. The style of this photography is variable as easily discerned from many pro examples on websites and the definition lends it to multiple applications and approaches. That being said, DPC literalists will insist on looking directly into the sun!
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04/02/2007 02:01:30 PM · #88 |
I shoot two images one in daylight & one in evening light. I like the evening silhouette but afraid it may get DNMC comments. Still confused which to submit? Can anyone help me?
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04/02/2007 02:09:10 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by Greetmir:
blah blah blah ... shoot yer shot and take yer chances ... sheesh ... |
Sounds about right to me! :D |
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04/02/2007 02:09:31 PM · #90 |
Let me see, if I shoot at night and point the camera at the ground....
Also, have we figured out if shooting into the bright spot in the clouds counts?
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04/02/2007 02:53:15 PM · #91 |
He's bringing your soup.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Next time I'm at a fancy restaurant I think I'll order the "Sunlight Soup" ... : ) |
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04/02/2007 02:55:18 PM · #92 |
Is this contra jour? (He's not my photo - he got a blue ribbon)
Message edited by author 2007-04-02 15:46:47. |
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04/02/2007 02:58:31 PM · #93 |
Originally posted by emorgan49:
He's bringing your soup. |
It smells yummy, but it's still a bit too hot to eat : )
Your animal photo definitely "qualifies" but is possibly too subtle an application of the technique for the 5-second voter. |
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04/02/2007 03:40:02 PM · #94 |
I went straight to wikipedia to get the definition and came up with these.
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04/02/2007 03:41:48 PM · #95 |
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04/02/2007 03:51:19 PM · #96 |
Originally posted by tase:
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i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you! |
Please tell me this is an early April Fool's joke.
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04/02/2007 03:57:50 PM · #97 |
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Is this a contre-jour?
If it is, I am two weeks early in taken it. |
Technically it probably is contre-jour - the main subject is back lighted and there is loss of detail resulting from the backlighting which is one of its numerous interpretations.
However, it is NOT a very good contre-jour image. You should be able to come up with something much better.
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04/02/2007 04:01:28 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by tase:
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i will dnmc-vote with 1 each and every photo that isn't taken with a camera pointed against the sun. don't say i didn't warn you! |
Please tell me this is an early April Fool's joke. |
Why'd you even dredge that up? It's 5 days old, and besides one vote isn't going to make any (much) difference. It's like a troll that's gone public for attention and now has obtained it as desired. |
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04/02/2007 04:07:37 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Is this a contre-jour?
If it is, I am two weeks early in taken it. |
I would have to say this is not an example of Contre-Joure. The sun is up at too much of an angle judging from the shadows. You would have to get one at sun up or sunset on a flat surface, or on an incline of a hill during the day when the sun is straight up, or something to get the sun more towards the frame and behind the contents of the photo. The light source doesn't have to be in the photo but quite near to the edge if you keep it out of the frame. |
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04/02/2007 04:41:28 PM · #100 |
There are many wonderful examples of contre-jour images here.
Perhaps when evaluating contre-jour images it might be more fruitful to worry about overexposures than what constitutes the definition.
You can be pretty sure there will be far more poorly exposed or badly exposed images submitted to the challenge than ones that are DNMC.
Generally speaking, a bad exposure is a bad exposure whether done to achieve contre-jour or not. Big blob-like overexposed areas in images mostly(not always) result in poor photographs and should be avoided.
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