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 03/24/2007 04:34:37 PM · #1
In response to this thread, I'd just like to post my thoughts and opinion on the subject. Keep in mind, this is all based on my experience and may be just a U.S. culture issue, but I believe it to be fairly universal.

My younger daughter has followed the other Seattle sheep in regards to what I consider facial mutilation. Metal things all over her ears, several rings in the nose, something sticking out below her lower lip, giant wooden hoop things protruding through half inch holes in her ear lobes, and she tops it off with dreadlocks that leave a musty smell for hours after she leaves any room.

Now, I love my daughter very much and beneath all that hardware, she is still a beautiful young woman and I don't harp on her about any of that stuff other than what I tell all my kids about rebellion and conformity. As much as people want to pretend appearance doesn't matter - it sure as hell does. And if you think people shouldn't judge you from outer appearances, they sure as hell do. And even decent, non-judgemental people who may not judge you badly for having a big nose, big ears, or a unibrow - they still may judge you badly for having a full-metal-facial. And I believe that judgement is aimed more toward your judgement, rather than your appearance.

Living in the Seattle area, I have worked with many people with various types of visible piercings and I can tell you that of the few that made it past the initial interviews and were hired, they were severely handicapped in terms of advancement. Especially in positions where advancement would put them in front of the clients or customers more often. And what happens is they become bitter and angry.

But consider this - again, in my experience, there are other people who follow more professional or traditional appearance guidelines, but they cuss like a sailor. Cussing is a part of their everyday casual conversation. These people also get passed over or are never considered for advancement. Why? Because, to many people, that kind of vocabulary is shocking, unprofessional and off-putting. Same thing with certain appearances. Again, these are things considered by most reasonable people to be matters of choice and therefore are perceived to be an indication of the person's character or judgement.

So if you are thinking of getting your face mangled to any extent, that's your perogative, but as I have told my daughter, just know that it WILL limit your opportunities in the adult world - both in business and in personal relationships - how many people would not date you because you don't have anything sticking out of your face?. You can say that sucks, I don't care, I don't need those kind of opportunities / people anyway, I am already filthy rich, etc. but you can't deny that it is true. And frankly, if it were not for this simple truth, I couldn't care less about the issue (other than I would still find most of it highly unattractive). But what I ask my kids is WHY would you want to reduce your chances of success in life? Life is hard enough and you need every edge you can. That said, I can accept if you acknowledge the limitations you are putting on yourself and choose to do it anyway and admit it's probably just a phase. That's fine. But here's the other thing I tried to instill in my kids: "DO NOT make any decisions that have PERMANENT consequences, until you are at least 25!" This means marriage, tattoos, committing the perfect crime, etc. Can anyone argue with that advice? Sure you can go against it and have no regrets, but can you say it's not good advice? just need some confirmation here ;-)

For those who say they do it for themselves, it makes them happy and that's all that matters, they don't care what people think, etc. - I call bullshit on that (oops, my sailor talk slipping through) - you most definitely are doing it to get a reaction from other people. A positive reaction from your friends and a negative reaction or provocation from stuffy, conservative people which serves to confirm what you already knew - that those people are judgemental. If you think you are not doing it for any of those reasons, how about just sticking all those things in your face only when you are at home by yourself where you, for whose pleasure these were done in the first place, can stare at yourself in the mirror and smile (assuming you don't have some metal things pulling down tha corners of your mouth).

Ok - now that I've put my opinion out there and have probably pissed off plenty of people, let me add that I have no disrespect for anyone who disagrees and I am always open to differing opinions or better yet, FACTS that dispute my claim facial piercing inherently limits your professional and personal opportunities. If you can prove to me statistically that the opposite is true, I will go ahead and get a piercing myself.

03/24/2007 04:45:09 PM · #2
I agree to some extent. having too much metal in your face is tacky. but only a few isnt tacky at all and it accepted now in everyday life.
I have gottena very successful job for my age which is considered "professional". I get comments everyday from a wide variety of people(old to young, consertive to outgoing,) saying that my piercings are nice and not tacky. they havent limited me at all for opportunities. If anything they help me gain opportunities. At least here in canada its widely accepted(piercings) of course there is still the odd pessimestic olden days fella who thinks its a blaphsamey(sp?) but thats pretty much it ive found
 03/24/2007 04:57:12 PM · #3
Wow - you are gonna burn for that post. Let me burn with you. My dad has multiple tattoos (no piercings - he thought was wierd). But he always warned me from day one that there were limitations that he followed with his tattoos. never below the wrist, never above the collar. My dad doesnt give a rats patootie what people think of him, but he knows he wants to remain gainfully employed and he knows that for that to happen he needs to be able to cover up any body adornments he might have.

I am of a conservative bent but tattoos and piercings dont offend or shock me (and yes I do have some of one or the other, please dont ask where, you cant see them). What does shock me is both the choice of where to have the work done and the usual low quality of that work. I can not tell you how many tattoos I have seen on some teens body that are visible to the world but only visibly right side up to the person who is wearing them since he did his own work. Or the kids who stretch and stretch their lobes to the point that even years after removal their lobes are gymnastic ring ready. Yeah it looks cool now (and on the other 100,000 kids who are trying to do their own thing) but I am not gonna hire you now or probably later if you are going to be doing anythign but telemarketing. And odds are if you come to the door wanting to date my daughter and your face wont clear the metal detector at the airport you aint getting through my clearance check either. Granted if you come to my door wanting to date my daughter right now I will most likely call the cops - cause she is only 2 you sick bastard. But 17 years from now when I start letting her date...

Call me judgemental. This is my opinion.
 03/24/2007 05:01:12 PM · #4
Originally posted by timfythetoo:
Wow - you are gonna burn for that post. Let me burn with you. My dad has multiple tattoos (no piercings - he thought was wierd). But he always warned me from day one that there were limitations that he followed with his tattoos. never below the wrist, never above the collar. My dad doesnt give a rats patootie what people think of him, but he knows he wants to remain gainfully employed and he knows that for that to happen he needs to be able to cover up any body adornments he might have.

I am of a conservative bent but tattoos and piercings dont offend or shock me (and yes I do have some of one or the other, please dont ask where, you cant see them). What does shock me is both the choice of where to have the work done and the usual low quality of that work. I can not tell you how many tattoos I have seen on some teens body that are visible to the world but only visibly right side up to the person who is wearing them since he did his own work. Or the kids who stretch and stretch their lobes to the point that even years after removal their lobes are gymnastic ring ready. Yeah it looks cool now (and on the other 100,000 kids who are trying to do their own thing) but I am not gonna hire you now or probably later if you are going to be doing anythign but telemarketing. And odds are if you come to the door wanting to date my daughter and your face wont clear the metal detector at the airport you aint getting through my clearance check either. Granted if you come to my door wanting to date my daughter right now I will most likely call the cops - cause she is only 2 you sick bastard. But 17 years from now when I start letting her date...

Call me judgemental. This is my opinion.

was this directed at me?
and my girlfriends dad and very traditional english(british) family like them as well.

and i wont beep in the metal detector...i have titanium :-D
 03/24/2007 05:04:38 PM · #5
Originally posted by noisemaker:
was this directed at me?
and my girlfriends dad and very traditional english(british) family like them as well.

and i wont beep in the metal detector...i have titanium :-D

Nope - it was just a response to ART. You got your response in before I finsihed mine.

And as a side note - I have beeped. ;)

Message edited by author 2007-03-24 17:07:23.
 03/24/2007 05:10:16 PM · #6
Originally posted by timfythetoo:
Originally posted by noisemaker:
was this directed at me?
and my girlfriends dad and very traditional english(british) family like them as well.

and i wont beep in the metal detector...i have titanium :-D

Nope - it was just a response to ART. You got your response in before I finsihed mine.

And as a side note - I have beeped. ;)

haha oh okay, then regardless ifyou daughter was 2 or 20 don't you think it'd be wierd having Art showing up atyour door to take her on a date?

...and then a little trip into the back room and a 2 finger inspection? :P
 03/24/2007 05:31:40 PM · #7
I love tattoos, but nothing below the upper arm. Too limiting in the line of business in which I work. Not terribly high-tech, but certainly reactionary. Even more of a limitation, considering that I desire to be seen as some sort of 'professional'. It's all about how others might perceive them.

One of these days, I might get a small tattoo myself.
 03/24/2007 05:51:55 PM · #8
Originally posted by noisemaker:
I agree to some extent. having too much metal in your face is tacky. but only a few isnt tacky at all and it accepted now in everyday life.
I have gottena very successful job for my age which is considered "professional". I get comments everyday from a wide variety of people(old to young, consertive to outgoing,) saying that my piercings are nice and not tacky. they havent limited me at all for opportunities. If anything they help me gain opportunities. At least here in canada its widely accepted(piercings) of course there is still the odd pessimestic olden days fella who thinks its a blaphsamey(sp?) but thats pretty much it ive found


It does depend on the sort of opportunities you're seeking. Right now you're a 16 year old photographer. If you follow this through to adulthood, chances are your portfolio will matter more than your hardware, until you run across a bride whose ultra-conservative mother sees the presence of "one of those people" at her daughter's beautiful wedding as a blight (if you end up doing weddings). But if photography or other artsy counter-culture pursuits don't pan out, you will run up against a lot of problems - and whether you're in America or Canada or Timbuktu isn't going to matter. Cubicle culture doesn't like non-traditional piercings or gauged ears and likely never will.

That said, I'm all for self-expression. I think if it isn't permanent then it doesn't matter. Lip, eyebrow and nose piercings can come out and heal. Unnatural hair colors grow out and dreads can be shaved off for a fresh start. I say if you or any other teenager wants to experiment with this stuff, go for it. (My plan, if I ever have kids, is to allow this stuff as a reward for good grades and good behavior. Prove to me you're responsible and I'll trust you to use your judgment.) But gauging and visible tattooes are going to hurt you down the road, guaranteed.

Edit: By the way, I got a tattoo about four years ago, and I love it. However, I honestly considered it for about two years beforehand, and kept the design I wanted on a bulletin board in my office for about a year of that before I went ahead with it. It's in a place where no one is likely to see it unless I show it to them - or if they happen to catch me in a bikini. (Lower-right back.)

Message edited by author 2007-03-24 18:02:59.
 03/24/2007 05:55:32 PM · #9
Well, I'll chime in here. Two points -
First, as 59 year old mother of 2, (22 yr old son and 24 yr old daughter), who was pretty wild in her day, and who now leads a pretty traditional type of life (not conservative, but traditional), I have always told my kids not to do anything like a tatoo that is permanent and visible. I want them to understand that what they revered and grooved on at 20 yrs old, might really creep them out at 25 or 30. When they were not convinced, I reminded them of who or what they loved at 15 or 16 yrs old - a person, a music group, etc., and asked them how they'd feel to have that name emblazoned across an arm or back now. That was a pretty convincing arguement, as it turned out.

The other thing is that I do remember how devoted I was to the pop culture (I sense a theme for a challenge pic emerging)of the 60s and 70s. To this day, I always carry a photo taken of me in 1970 for my New York City hack license (taxi driver - get it? My parents were less than thrilled.)with me in a full Afro. Now mind you, I am White. And although it became a common hair style eventually, I was a little ahead of the curve. It scandalized my family. I carry the photo and look at it often because it is my reminder..."It's only hair." That has taken me through my children's clothing choices, hair dye colors, music, etc. Other parents would be aghast, asking me, for instance, "why - or how - do you let him/her have blue hair?" Answer: "It's only hair."

So that's all by way of saying "whatever" - as long as a person can change their mind or modify their appearance eventually, and no one is harmed in the meantime, we all gotta do what we gotta do.
 03/24/2007 06:09:32 PM · #10
Just think... 50 years from now, we're going to 70 year old grandmas running around town with tatooes (who knows where) and metal hanging from all parts of their bodies.

Of course, there'll be grandpas too... but it's the mental image of my grandma with body piercings and tatoos that really gives me the shivers. lol
 03/24/2007 06:13:24 PM · #11
Ken, I'm glad you started this thread, because I didn't want to rain on anyone's excitement by posting my opinion in the other one. Mark me down as another old fogey.

You are right on about the handicap issue. I have a theory about "Coolness". If you think about what people do to be cool, (or whatever the modern day word for that is) it's very often about self-inflicted inconvenience. It's about complicating your existence so that you can struggle to overcome some adversity.

I believe that this behavior is indicative of a society with a great deal of security and leisure time. People (especially youth) have a reservoir of untapped brainpower, which is not being adequately challenged by the demands of today's society.

Tattoos can be interesting and I do find myself looking at them, but I usually end up saying "Why would someone do that to their own body?" I do understand that they are an attempt to communicate a vision of the person's self-image; or as a souvenir or commemoration of some event or relationship. At least I am not asked to watch the tattoo taking place. Piercings are different, as the viewer is forced to look at the object poking out through the hole and sometimes to hear it clack against teeth or watch it being pulled on. This makes me very squeamish, and the thought of the accompanying bacteria doesn't help.

My aversion to piercings may come from having spent two months in traction as a kid; for a broken leg. The weights were attached to a large bolt that had been inserted through my shin bone and protruded out through my skin on both sides. When the time came to remove it, they gave me a wooden dowel to bite on and twisted it out while I was fully awake. If you really want to be cool, I can highly recommend this type of piercing.

It's likely that society will come to accept piercings and tattoos as commonplace. Then there will be a geriatric population with faded, blurry tats, droopy earlobes and fond memories of what it was like to be cool in each others' eyes.

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 03/24/2007 06:15:34 PM · #12
Right, an old bastard's view!

Tattoo, no! I hate them, as do most people who thought they were cool when they were young. Nothing worse than an 80 year old dying of cancer with loads of faded old tattoos.

Piercings: I had an earring years ago, but there comes a time when they are just not right. I hate seeing old guys walking around with their earrings trying to look young. Now they are not just a single piercing, they are self mutaliation. Who wants an earlobe with a 1/2" hole when they are forty+. Get real! Would you slash your wrists to get good scars for old age??

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 03/24/2007 06:26:47 PM · #13
I have never understood what drives people to self-mutilation, and while it is certainly an ancient tradition, that is no excuse. Burning people as witches is an old tradition too, but you donĂ¢€™t see people trying to bring it back ;-)

I find myself in full agreement with Art and many of the other posters. If you want to have a tattoo or piercing that is not visible to the general public when you're on the street or at work, that is your privilege, knock yourself out. But filling your face with metal and putting huge tattoos in plain view will certainly cause people to judge you. Right or wrong, this kind of judgment is human nature, and expecting people to refrain from it because it's "wrong" or "not nice" is, frankly, naive. And second, as several have mentioned, however unattractive such accessories are when you are 20, they are ten-fold as unattractive when you are 70.

Finally, I have to ask what is up with the whole spools-in-the-earlobes-thing? My understanding from anthropology classes is that the Inca nobility from ancient Peru used to practice the same thing, stretching their lobes to fit larger and larger golden spools in. At the time, it was a sign of being a member of the upper classes. Why people are reviving it baffles me. They do not appear to have any Peruvian heritage to celebrate, they certainly aren't running around the Andes with llamas, and considering the fate of the Inca nobility, I seriously doubt they are trying to emulate them.

I don't understand people, especially people in my own age range.

03/24/2007 06:42:14 PM · #14
Yeah, that's what I thought of when I first saw the huge earlobe holes. I wondered if we had gone back in time...

But, just wait until the "neck stretching" thing comes around... I'm sure all the girls are going to want to have long sleek necks.


03/24/2007 06:45:21 PM · #15
My best friend Adriana has five tattoos and about 12 piercings currently (she had waaay more a couple of years ago). three of her tattoos are in obvious places like the back of her neck, forearm, and wrist. Her earlobes are stretched to about the size of dimes. All of this and she doesn't regret any of them. She's only 19.

Now, since I have known her for literally all of my life, I can tell you that she is indeed a good person with good morals and a strong mind. However, if you were to see her walking down the street, you would whisper, "Ooh, look at the pierced-up, tattooed, teenage mother!" which is completely understandable. It might not be right, but it is more what people see, not what you do that seems to define you in today's society. When she got all of those tattos and piercings (starting when she was 13) all of her friends were doing the same things and she had a non-dicipline-type mom. I am the only one of her friends who does not have any tattoos or piercings. Why? I'm not sure. She went to catholic school, I went to public. I lived on one side of the bay, she lived on the other. I'm and introvert, she's and extrovert. I've never had a boyfriend, she's been dating since she was 13. I have a fear of needles...SHE has a fear of needles. So honestly, it makes no sense...but has it affected her?

As for getting a job, I have had 2 jobs, she has had 3. However, I never had to do an interview, the people knew me, looked me up and down, and said "you're hired!". She was going to get a job at a restaurant, they were about to train her, looked her up and down and said, "we can't hire you." Predjudice? Yes. Honest? Yes. The manager knew that her costomers might have commented on it, given Adriana less tips, maybe even stated it as unsanitary. Is that fair?

I suppose it's up to you, but I know make a valid effort not to judge people by how they look, but instead by who they are. I know that may sound idealistic, but just take it into consideration next time you see a person who looks different than you walking down the street.


03/24/2007 06:55:36 PM · #16
Originally posted by Blue Moon:
I know make a valid effort not to judge people by how they look, but instead by who they are. I know that may sound idealistic, but just take it into consideration next time you see a person who looks different than you walking down the street.


I agree 100% for things like race, skin color, hair color, deformities of any kind. People are people.

I have a harder time with piercings because they are elective. People choose to have their body pierced. They did it to make a statement. And they expect that statement to be reacted to, for better or worse. And I find myself reacting. Perhaps too often on the negative side, though I consciously try to not be judgmental.

Also, not directed at your comments but... I think that for one to "assess their ability to get a job" while having piercings in their teenage years or even early twenties is still premature. The point at which I think it will become extremely difficult to get a job is later in life, say 27 on up, when you're more or less expected to act mature and "fit in". And then that "statement" that was being made with the piercings as a youth will no longer be acceptable ... by any employer.


03/24/2007 07:04:04 PM · #17
Well... I better not tell you all how many I have...
 03/24/2007 07:16:06 PM · #18
I have one Kanji tattoo on my back. I chose Kanji not because it's trendy, but because I think that it's very appealing, and I can read it.

I've very much been one of the counter-culture and alternative-lifestyle types for my entire life. To date, I haven't had to see a lot of bigotry (not to mince words) towards body modification unless it was extreme.

Many occupations are completely open to reasonable modification, these days. There are some types of occupation which are vehemently against any modifications, and to some extend I can understand and agree. These traditionally tend to be areas where you need to perform customer service face to face.
 03/24/2007 07:17:56 PM · #19
Originally posted by dwterry:
Originally posted by Blue Moon:
I know make a valid effort not to judge people by how they look, but instead by who they are. I know that may sound idealistic, but just take it into consideration next time you see a person who looks different than you walking down the street.


I agree 100% for things like race, skin color, hair color, deformities of any kind. People are people.

I have a harder time with piercings because they are elective. People choose to have their body pierced. They did it to make a statement. And they expect that statement to be reacted to, for better or worse. And I find myself reacting. Perhaps too often on the negative side, though I consciously try to not be judgmental.


While I often find myself reacting the same way you do, you have to admit that it is still prejudice to base ones opinions on someone else based soley on their appearance, regardless of if they chose to be that way or not. Some people are prejudice towards gays because they think (i don't) that they chose to be gay, so that somehow makes it okay to dislike or even hate them.

Or, let's go back to hair color. People think it's okay to make fun of blondes by making jokes about how stupid they are or that they are sluts because they choose to dye their hair blonde. But what if you are a natural blonde? How do you think it feels to be called a whore behind your back just because of your hair color? I know that sounds stupid, but it did happen to me. What should I do? die my hair? Would I be viewed as a more intelligent and wholesome person if I was a brunette? What if I died my hair purple? Nope, that apparently just makes me crazy.

Sometimes people don't realize how hurtful it is to judge someone based on looks alone, whether they chose to be that way or didn't.
 03/24/2007 07:18:06 PM · #20
I do see some people and think, "well, they weren't really thinking long term". The ear lobe stretching I think is pretty crazy. How is that going to work out when you are 40?

However, I had a double pierced ear for 20 years and I have a small tattoo (on my leg). I don't mind the idea of these things, but I do think there is a fair amount of "the impulsiveness of youth" to them. My sister had a lip ring for a long time and I kept telling her to get rid of it before that hole became permanent. She finally did.
 03/24/2007 07:19:47 PM · #21
I do some interviewing & hiring, but for "careers", not "jobs". Too many piercings & you won't get hired by me. Also, you'd damn well better laugh at my jokes, no matter how stupid or senseless.

03/24/2007 07:41:02 PM · #22
Just to share - both my partner and I have very 'alternative' appearances, both in the way we dress and our various piercings/dye jobs (no tattoos, yet, but that's for lack of funds - stupid camera). I've had mine going on 10 years and I've never had it interfere with my professional opportunities. I find that a lot of people will react to you the way that you expect them to. So if you walk into a professional situation and expect everyone to behave professionally, they do. I work in a very corporate atmosphere and am required to attend several conferences per year, attended by Dr's, clinicians, and other 'professionals' from all of North America. I have had a couple coworkers with issues with me that I suspect are based on my appearance, but they're long gone, now.

I don't do what I do for a reaction at all. When new people go out with me, they insist on pointing out all the looks and stares, but I don't even notice and I explain to them that it's normal and to just let it go. But really, if you act like it's an issue, it will be. If you act like it's normal, people will react like it's normal. It's less to do with how you look and what you do than how you represent yourself.
 03/24/2007 07:54:41 PM · #23
Well I can see your point and agree to a big extent Art. I (as stated in the other thread) had at one point 27 piercings. I have 5 tattoos. Today I wear no visible jewelry (except wedding ring and watch) I had a choice to make and made it. When I met my wife I was a manager of a music store with all the piercings and my head shaved except my bangs which were about 3 inches longs purple and sticking straight up. I worked there because I w could look like that. I was smart and did my job very well. I moved up quickly and destroyed all of the company goals. i made about $7 an hour. I decided that I wanted to make more money for my family. I left and took out almost all the piercings and dyed my hair. I doubled my income and again moved up quickly and destroyed company goals. I decided I wanted more money. I took out all my piercings and got a new even more professional job. I moved up quickly and again destroyed the company goals. I now make something like 7 times as much as I did with the jewelry. MY point to this is that I had the talent all along to do well but my choices made me work at a company that paid less. Sure there are some jobs where you can make good money and look how you want but not many and usually require a good specialty.

I have roughly 70 employees and I judge them on their appearance when they come in for an interview. I don't think bad of them for having piercings but I do question why they wore in in to the interview where they can see nobody working their has any. My father used to tell me "dress for the job you want, not the job you have" i think just as badly of people that come in wearing a baseball cap or shorts.

I personally really don't like all the people talking about how they think badly of people with piercings in general. To me it just seems small minded. That is a choice that they made but it is not WHO they are. Some of you may be fans of the group Journey or Steve Perry. To me that say you have NO musical taste and have made some VERY bad choices in your music selection but that doesn't mean that is who you are. Why can't people just let others be. Many people think it is ok to talk bad about people with colored hair or piercings or tattoos loud enough for everyone to hear them this always makes me angry. They say well you did that to yourself for a reaction so you should expect it. Bullshit! You (the collective world you) grew that beard for a reaction. you dyed you hair blond for a reaction. you wear those sunglasses for a reaction. We ALL do things for a reaction! just because some may be considered more extreme to the at large public why does that mean our lack of respect for others has to be more extreme.

To me someone that judges another person because of their jewelry is as those that that hate Jewish people or Christians or any other religion.

If you read all that I feel sorry for you:P

Message edited by author 2007-03-24 20:20:59.
 03/24/2007 07:55:59 PM · #24
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
If you think you are not doing it for any of those reasons, how about just sticking all those things in your face only when you are at home by yourself where you, for whose pleasure these were done in the first place, can stare at yourself in the mirror and smile (assuming you don't have some metal things pulling down tha corners of your mouth).



Honestly from my experience where I did indeed breifly try to take out my piercings to get a job. it doesnt work. those things close up FAST! sone people can get away with it but others like myself can't get the jewelry back in after more than 30 minutes. no idea why, but that IS the way it is for some people.

but then again.....maybe I'm just a superhero who heals really fast. That would explain why my eyebrow piercing closed up around the jewelry until it fell out. well, **Off to save the world...** :P
 03/24/2007 07:56:33 PM · #25
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I do see some people and think, "well, they weren't really thinking long term". The ear lobe stretching I think is pretty crazy. How is that going to work out when you are 40?


I wore 1/2 inch in each ear for YEARS and above that had a 2 gauge hole i each ear for YEARS and oh yea I am doing VERY well thank you:P

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