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03/07/2007 10:56:18 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by bmartuch:
What about people that CONSTANTLY take shots of themselves. That way, everyone knows who it is. I think many people boost the score a little if the photographer is someone popular. JMO. |
It's funny, I'm rarely recognized in my challenge self-portraits. (Or if I am, no one ever says so.)
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03/07/2007 11:18:57 PM · #27 |
What  kirbic said.
The percentage of top shots that have a model/flower/child is not the interesting statistic. The interesting statistic would be what percentage of top 10 photos are a given aspect, compared to what percentage of all photos have that aspect.
Of course, then one might wonder about variation over time, i.e. does one subject become popular, then become cliched and fall out of favor...
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03/07/2007 11:26:35 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by viajero:
Of course, then one might wonder about variation over time, i.e. does one subject become popular, then become cliched and fall out of favor... |
This does, indeed, happen constantly (although quite frankly, I'm more than ready for hyper-realistic seascape/landscape photos to fall out of favor.. but they seem to have staying power beyond the mightiest of viagra taking porn stars.)
Message edited by author 2007-03-07 23:27:36. |
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03/08/2007 03:32:31 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
IMO, analyzing the subjects for challenge entries is about as meaningful as analyzing eye color in Nobel Prize Winners. :-/
It's not the subject- it's what you do with it. I've had winners with traditionally "hated" subjects like flowers, feet, bugs, toys, zoo animals and maybe one or two with kids. These aren't unappealing things to look at (well, maybe feet), but they're common subjects for photography. A common shot of a common subject will bomb every time. The trick is to make the shot special with unusual lighting, expressions, ideas, etc. so it stands out. If you can do that, then a common subject won't matter. |
Shannon, I think it matters for the reasons that LJ said:
Originally posted by LJ:
Gordon, here is why I think it matters. I've heard a friend of mine tell me that he can't do well at DPC because we just don't have pretty landscapes around here. This random test would demonstrate that he doesn't have to have a pretty landscape to do well at DPC since it's a 50/50 wash one way or another. I've also had a friend tell me that he can't do well on DPC because he can't afford a studio and lights like the big dogs have. Again I say the numbers suggest it doesn't matter that much if you have a studio or not since half the shots are done without props and lights, etc. It SHOULD give people less excuses for why they can't compete and more realization that it has to do with the photographer more than the location in which you live or the money you can afford to spend. |
I've had these feelings myself at times (not too often, but often enough), especially when I really like something I've entered and it tanks. "If only I lived in Iceland" or "If only I lived in Africa" (I have no desire to have a studio, and I almost never do setups, so I don't go that route). This set of data, for me, is a nice reality check, telling me that I need to get back to the things that I enjoy about photography and stop trying to "win the game" by figuring out what people want to see.
People want to see good images. Full stop.
This helps me (and hopefully others) see that, and I appreciate LJ's efforts; I think it was time well spent :P
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03/08/2007 03:38:37 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by ursula:
Flowers less than 10%? Bummer. I'm gonna have to change my strategy :( |
But between you and  banmorn, I'd say you've got that 10% one hundred percent covered. :-) |
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