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 02/01/2007 10:25:30 PM · #1
These are my first two efforts at using gradient mapping for b&w



Opinions?
 02/01/2007 10:27:31 PM · #2
The second one seemed to work better though both seem to be lacking a bit in contrast.

The first one needs more contrast in the rocks. The second I would say needs more contrast all over.

Just an opinion.
 02/01/2007 10:29:23 PM · #3
I love using GM for black and white. did you adjust the sliders to get more contrast?
 02/01/2007 11:05:29 PM · #4


This was my one with more contrast. I really had to burn in the lower left and am still not really sure if I am happy with it.
 02/01/2007 11:18:49 PM · #5
Nice tones - The waterfall has much detail - My Black and white editing is really quite basic - Desaturate etc - I would be interested to know what gradient mapping is?
I shot this pic - It did quite well - Would gradient mapping have helped?
Thanks Jeff

02/01/2007 11:47:11 PM · #6
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
Nice tones - The waterfall has much detail - My Black and white editing is really quite basic - Desaturate etc - I would be interested to know what gradient mapping is?
I shot this pic - It did quite well - Would gradient mapping have helped?
Thanks Jeff



That image has superb toning...I am surprised if you simply just desaturated...what other steps did you do.
 02/01/2007 11:51:41 PM · #7
I know this thread is about gradient maping but i have to say that using the channel mixer is the best way to turn to black and white, its like using a color filter in front of your lens when shooting black and white film.
 02/02/2007 12:58:41 AM · #8
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
Nice tones - The waterfall has much detail - My Black and white editing is really quite basic - Desaturate etc - I would be interested to know what gradient mapping is?
I shot this pic - It did quite well - Would gradient mapping have helped?
Thanks Jeff



That image has superb toning...I am surprised if you simply just desaturated...what other steps did you do.


The foreground looks to be flashed, and the sky underexposed, which would account for much of the difference in luminance values. But yeah, there's to D&B going on there.


02/02/2007 01:26:50 AM · #9
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
Nice tones - The waterfall has much detail - My Black and white editing is really quite basic - Desaturate etc - I would be interested to know what gradient mapping is?
I shot this pic - It did quite well - Would gradient mapping have helped?
Thanks Jeff



That image has superb toning...I am surprised if you simply just desaturated...what other steps did you do.


I did use dodge and burn - I also use selective colour first while the image was in colour to enhance the blues in the sky - After this I then did desaturate. Also I probably did a little contrast.

Still don't know what the gradient mapping is though!
 02/02/2007 01:34:14 AM · #10
Here is the original that I converted to black and white. Maybe this helps see how I got the tones so simply.


Cheers
Jeff

02/02/2007 01:37:08 AM · #11
It is definitely a superb image...one that will stand the time.
 02/02/2007 02:51:10 AM · #12
Try this...After using the gradient map to converting to black and white. Create a new Selective Color adjustment layer underneath it. And you can go in there and play with the different color ranges ie reds, yellows etc. If you play with the black of each color channels it will allow you alot of control in the tones of the image. For example, darkening blue skies. It is very similar to fotomann's tutorial on here, but instead of two hue/saturation layers. You have a gradient map and selective color layer.
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