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01/19/2007 04:17:44 PM · #1 |
i borrowed a lens from a friend. i dropped it about 10", on its side. the glass is fine, but the focus ring stuck.
his solution? buy him a new one, and i can keep the old one. the new one is $600, the repair is about $200. i go $800 out of pocket, and essentially get a refurbished 3-yr-old lens and he gets a brand new one. he didn't want it repaired, he wanted it replaced.
i don't think i'll be borrowing anything from anyone anymore. it's cheaper to rent and pay for the damage insurance.
Message edited by author 2007-01-19 16:18:08. |
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01/19/2007 04:18:50 PM · #2 |
| That sucks... Sorry to hear it. |
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01/19/2007 04:18:53 PM · #3 |
Ugh! Tough break.... sorry bad choic of words.
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01/19/2007 04:21:13 PM · #4 |
Eh, kinda crappy on his part if you ask me. Loaning something out, you always know there's a chance it gets damaged. If it were me, I'd be fine with the repair.
O well, I guess you can always sell the repaired lens and recover part of the cost of the new one :-P |
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01/19/2007 04:24:18 PM · #5 |
BUTTERFINGERS!!! :-O
A bummer of an accident. :-(
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01/19/2007 04:32:49 PM · #6 |
Some friend. Sorry to hear about your unfortunate situation Skip. You can borrow a lens from me anytime. :)
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01/19/2007 04:33:24 PM · #7 |
Why can't you buy him a used one? He did, after all, only loan you a used one, not a new one!
I bet he put PAM on it so you would drop it and he would get a new one. I bet it was screwed up anyway!
I am, please note, just kidding in the second paragraph :) |
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01/19/2007 04:34:36 PM · #8 |
| lesson learned -- next time borrow from kirbic |
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01/19/2007 05:14:20 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by karmat:
lesson learned -- next time borrow from kirbic |
LOL I'm going to send a PM to Kirbic right now for to see how his loaner program works!
MattO
Edit to say sorry to hear about your bad luck there Skip.
Message edited by author 2007-01-19 17:14:41.
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01/19/2007 05:17:42 PM · #10 |
Hey kirbic.... can I borrow that 70-200 f/2.8 L???? I have a wedding coming up in 8 months and I could REALLY use it!!!!
Puhleeeeeeezzzeee!!!!! With sugar on top?????
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01/19/2007 05:19:43 PM · #11 |
I agree with Nards.. get a "new" used one. Unless your friends was new.. which would suck... *edit* just re-read your post and his lens was 3 years old... I think its completely reasonable to get a mint used one... but thats me.
Message edited by author 2007-01-19 17:27:38. |
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01/19/2007 05:24:39 PM · #12 |
UGH
I never borrow something I couldn't replace (except neighbor's kids or such for work needing to be done)
and though it sucks, you've done the right thing really, in my opinion.
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01/19/2007 05:29:42 PM · #13 |
Having to buy a new one doesn't sound right- unless it was new. I hate it when I have to borrow stuff, I am always so paranoid that I might break or scratch something that I don't even use what I borrowed.
Originally posted by BradP:
UGH
I never borrow something I couldn't replace (except neighbor's kids or such for work needing to be done)
and though it sucks, you've done the right thing really, in my opinion. |
Hey, can I borrow your neighbor kids- tax time you know- I could use a couple of dependants :)
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01/19/2007 05:32:25 PM · #14 |
Sorry to hear, Skip. When I was a younger man, I used to loan my truck to friends on occasion I have a couple long stories (with interesting twists and turns and surprise endings) that would explain why I quit loaning it.
A used new lense might be ok, but I wouldn't want a repaired lense returned - I guess it depends on the friendship and history. Anyway, skip, you gave me an idea - buy a sweeet lens off ebay and tell the wife I had to buy it as a replacement for one I borrowed and broke, but I will be getting it repaired and keeping it. It's... it's... the perfect crime! :P |
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01/19/2007 05:32:32 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by skiprow:
i borrowed a lens from a friend. i dropped it about 10", on its side. the glass is fine, but the focus ring stuck.
his solution? buy him a new one, and i can keep the old one. the new one is $600, the repair is about $200. i go $800 out of pocket, and essentially get a refurbished 3-yr-old lens and he gets a brand new one. he didn't want it repaired, he wanted it replaced.
i don't think i'll be borrowing anything from anyone anymore. it's cheaper to rent and pay for the damage insurance. |
Do you have insurance on your equipment. Some will cover the use of someone else equipment. Kind of like driving a friends car, your insurance would cover you in the event of an accident. |
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01/19/2007 05:39:23 PM · #16 |
Hi Skip,
I'd encourage you to call your insurance company. Many standard policies include something called a "Good Neighbor" clause which pays up to $1000 to loss or damage to another person's property that occurred while said property was in your care, custody, or control. This coverage pays without regard to negligence, and it's meant for the policyholders to avoid exactly this kind of out-of-pocket expense for accidents. It's part of your liability insurance, and so is not subject to your deductible.
Good luck!
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01/19/2007 05:39:27 PM · #17 |
That's one reason I usually set some expectations if I'm loaning anything, eg. "You break it, you replace it!", "I'd like it back as soon as you're done this errand", "I'm in no rush to get it back, but sometime would be nice","don't worry if it gets dinged" or just plain "don't worry about it".
It may not have quite the detail or weight of a fancy contract, but it does give the borrower SOME idea of what to expect if they damage/destroy/lose it.
I think expecting brand new is a little much, but I can also see his concern that what he gets back may not be as good as what he loaned.
He was trying to do a good turn and doesn't want to end up losing out by it. |
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01/19/2007 05:49:44 PM · #18 |
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01/19/2007 06:59:53 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by nards656:
Why can't you buy him a used one? He did, after all, only loan you a used one, not a new one!
I bet he put PAM on it so you would drop it and he would get a new one. I bet it was screwed up anyway!
I am, please note, just kidding in the second paragraph :) |
I need to go back and add that I was basically kidding in the first paragraph, too :)
It's really up to Skip and his friend, y'all. Let's don't get out the judge and jury :)
HEY! IT'S FRIDAY NIGHT!!!!! WHOOOOOOO!!!!! |
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01/19/2007 07:06:52 PM · #20 |
My friend ruined my brand new $700 leather jacket that i foolishly let him borrow for a party, he desided to go for a walk in the rain so ya, its garbage now. He refused to replace it saying "i didn't know that would happen" so ya.... we dont talk much anymore. and i dont lend expencive stuff to friends now lol
Message edited by author 2007-01-19 19:07:10. |
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01/20/2007 09:22:21 PM · #21 |
appreciate all the sentiments, ya'll, truly.
just a few responses, to answer some things brought up.
this is not an inexpensive lesson, but it could have been worse. it may be covered by insurance, but i'm saving that claim for something really serious, something that would be a real stretch to handle on my own.
yeah, i was a bit put out that this guy elected the 'lottery-win-of-the-day' option with me, but, i'm glad he showed me his true colors over something relatively minor, than, say, if i had sometime down the road found myself in business with him. as ya'll have pointed out, there were some options, but this is what he wanted to go with. he may not realize it, but i know where he stands with me, now.
and those comments about things to say when borrowing or lending stuff are so true: you really do need to establish expectation up front. that's why i think i'll probably simply rent going forward...
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01/20/2007 09:41:30 PM · #22 |
That`s the main reason why I NEVER lend any of my photographic equipment. I worked long and hard to save for my toys. If someone`s gonna break something, it`s gonna be me.
I'm quite territorial / possessive about my stuff. I don`t pee on my stuff to mark it, but it`s damn close!  |
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