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01/18/2007 11:42:34 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
It's always seemed to be common belief that humans are evolving without wisdom teeth, but there's some discussion that it's the second incisors that are going, as we need the grinding teeth more than the tearing ones.
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Actually, wisdom teeth are the most common congenitally missing teeth, followed then by the second incisors, and then the second premolars. I have heard this theory about the evolutionary trend toward fewer teeth, however I think the trend probably stopped with modern civilization. If you think about it, the only way we would continue to evolve away the second incisors (or any teeth for that matter) would be if the people without those teeth could survive longer and make more babies, thus passing on their genes more. This is unlikely to happen. In fact, a guy with two missing anterior teeth (assuming he had never had braces and the spaces never filled in) would probably have a harder time with the ladies and be less likely to pass on his dental anomaly.
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01/18/2007 11:46:22 PM · #27 |
Had 4, all impacted and no room. They were cut/broken out a side at a time when I was in high school
(Yes, they had dentisty back then!!!) :P Edited for spelling.
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01/18/2007 11:48:43 PM · #28 |
Oh, and I forgot my wisdom teeth story...
A couple years ago my uncle, a GP in Florida took out my wisdom teeth. I had for nicely impacted teeth with roots beautifully curved around nerves and all that jazz. He pumped my mouth full of local anesthesia (he doesn't believe in using general unless you absolutely have to because of the risk of death, which I completely agreed I didn't want to die). Then over the next 45 minutes he proceeded to extract the teeth. The next evening He was shucking some corn for dinner and says to me "How many ears of corn would you like?" I thought "is he kidding me?" but just mumbled "I think one will be enough."
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01/18/2007 11:51:23 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by bergiekat:
Had 4, all impacted and no room. They were cut/broken out a side at a time when I was in high school
(Yes, the had dentisty bad then!!!) :P |
All 4 of mine are gone. 2 were partially boney impacted. When they did the first side, the bottom was so impacted they used a hamnmer and chisel on it. And I was under local!LOL!
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01/18/2007 11:51:53 PM · #30 |
I got all 4 pulled because one was like, horizontally impacted, and they would otherwise totally muss up my orthodontic work, I guess.
All I can say, is in the last two years, every single "totally horrible experience" in my life has been okay. Getting my wisdom teeth pulled didn't hurt, and I'm not gonna lie, I loved the anesthetics.
Mono was a piece of cake. |
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01/19/2007 12:00:26 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by bergiekat:
Had 4, all impacted and no room. They were cut/broken out a side at a time when I was in high school
(Yes, the had dentisty bad then!!!) :P |
Yeah, but I bet they gave you whiskey as anesthesia....
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01/19/2007 12:10:43 AM · #32 |
Had all four taken out at once in the Dentist chair. One broke and had to be taken out in pieces.
No swelling and only 1 292 after the fact. I must have a high pain threshold or had a very good dentist. |
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01/19/2007 12:30:20 AM · #33 |
Two on the top, impacted. None on the bottom.
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01/19/2007 12:49:52 AM · #34 |
| I think I just have one that I know of.. because it came out slightly painfully..it didn't hurt much..just made me feel concious of it.. I was considering getting it pulled but a cousin [who is graduating this summer in dentistry and has managed to top in all her exams citywide] was vehement about not getting it pulled.. One thing she has learnt is dentists have a pointless habit of taking teeth out...She's had her own brace trauma and realizes now how the most well reputed dentist made such a unnecessary hash of her teeth...lol! I'm keeping mine as long as I can.. |
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01/19/2007 12:54:29 AM · #35 |
All 4 out in one 1/2 hour long surgery (lucky me!) they would not have surfaced or only partially but would have run into the molars and caused decay on all eight involved below the gum line. Also was hoping it would solve the headache problem. (didn't, came to find out they are tension headaches)
edit: Oh yeah, no swelling, didn't even use the painpill scrip! I DO have a high pain threshold AND a good dentist!
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01/19/2007 01:12:22 AM · #36 |
I never got my wisdom teeth - I mean, they are just not there. So I dodged that miserable experience :)
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01/19/2007 02:38:25 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by jpeters:
Oh, and I forgot my wisdom teeth story...
A couple years ago my uncle, a GP in Florida took out my wisdom teeth. I had for nicely impacted teeth with roots beautifully curved around nerves and all that jazz. He pumped my mouth full of local anesthesia (he doesn't believe in using general unless you absolutely have to because of the risk of death, which I completely agreed I didn't want to die). Then over the next 45 minutes he proceeded to extract the teeth. The next evening He was shucking some corn for dinner and says to me "How many ears of corn would you like?" I thought "is he kidding me?" but just mumbled "I think one will be enough." |
Ouch! No offence to your uncle, but I really don't like the idea of GP's doing extractions. I seriously doubt you were gonna die from general, which I'm sure you know now. Too much nitrous will make you puke, but that's only from somebody giving too much nitrous. They just don't like dealing with the after-care of the patient IMO.
I'm interning at an office, and yesterday he was doing an extracton of #28 which was an old RCT and broken at below the gumline. He was grinding away at that root and the post like there was no tomorrow with a high-speed...a high-speed!! He only decided 10 minutes later that he should probably detatch the ligaments first. Do you know how messy that was?! "Stuff" was just spattering everywhere...on the patient, me, on his face (no safety glasses either [please wear those!]) and it was just not a pretty sight.
Ahem, okay...off of my little soap box. Oh, and when you say second incisors, do you mean laterals? I assume they are exactly the same thing. Good luck in school btw! |
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01/19/2007 05:47:43 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Blue Moon:
I'm interning at an office, and yesterday he was doing an extracton of #28 which was an old RCT and broken at below the gumline. He was grinding away at that root and the post like there was no tomorrow with a high-speed...a high-speed!! He only decided 10 minutes later that he should probably detatch the ligaments first. Do you know how messy that was?! "Stuff" was just spattering everywhere...on the patient, me, on his face (no safety glasses either [please wear those!]) and it was just not a pretty sight... |
oh my. I was gonna say you have to be joking about the way he used that high-speed handpiece on the patient but then I remembered when I was stationed in Guantanamo Bay Cuba (Navy Dental Assistant here). We had a doc that seemed to have an issue with working on people that weren't with the military.
I remember one time he was pulling a terribly decayed tooth on an immigrant, I don't remember him looseing the ligaments or anything. He just grabbed the pliers (I know bad term) and started yanking at it. I was totally waiting for him to put his foot on the guys chest he was pulling and twisting so hard. He finally ended up breaking off the crown, then got mad cause he had to go back for the two roots. This guy was brutial.
We also had a patient (military member this time) that was only about 5 foot 6 and MAYBE 100 pounds. She came in for an exam and when they did her panoramic x-ray they found 8 (yes I said 8) extra teeth up in her jaws. So she had the typical 32 teeth plus the extra 8. Lucky for her they were all relativly small ones and were removed with just a few surgeries.
Two of mine were removed in 89 while in Navy boot camp and the other two in I think 91 or 92. I didn't realize how my much my teeth moved until one day I saw and old dentist friend and he commented on how much straighter they were...trust me I had very crooked teeth so the difference was noticable.
Message edited by author 2007-01-19 05:49:47. |
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01/19/2007 07:09:43 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by Blue Moon:
Originally posted by jpeters:
Oh, and I forgot my wisdom teeth story...
A couple years ago my uncle, a GP in Florida took out my wisdom teeth. I had for nicely impacted teeth with roots beautifully curved around nerves and all that jazz. He pumped my mouth full of local anesthesia (he doesn't believe in using general unless you absolutely have to because of the risk of death, which I completely agreed I didn't want to die). Then over the next 45 minutes he proceeded to extract the teeth. The next evening He was shucking some corn for dinner and says to me "How many ears of corn would you like?" I thought "is he kidding me?" but just mumbled "I think one will be enough." |
Ouch! No offence to your uncle, but I really don't like the idea of GP's doing extractions. I seriously doubt you were gonna die from general, which I'm sure you know now. Too much nitrous will make you puke, but that's only from somebody giving too much nitrous. They just don't like dealing with the after-care of the patient IMO.
I'm interning at an office, and yesterday he was doing an extracton of #28 which was an old RCT and broken at below the gumline. He was grinding away at that root and the post like there was no tomorrow with a high-speed...a high-speed!! He only decided 10 minutes later that he should probably detatch the ligaments first. Do you know how messy that was?! "Stuff" was just spattering everywhere...on the patient, me, on his face (no safety glasses either [please wear those!]) and it was just not a pretty sight.
Ahem, okay...off of my little soap box. Oh, and when you say second incisors, do you mean laterals? I assume they are exactly the same thing. Good luck in school btw! |
If a GP knows what he/she is doing there's no reason they can't do extractions, even wisdom teeth. They don't need to use general, IV, or even nitrous, just a local anesthetic. Now, a lot of people don't want four teeth to be extracted under those terms, so that's when you refer them to an oral surgeon.
And yes, when I said second incisors I was using the terminology of the post I was quoting and did indeed mean laterals.
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01/19/2007 07:31:10 AM · #40 |
I have all my wisdom teeth.
Oh and by the way, I used to pull moose teeth once in a while when I was studying to be a biologist. |
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01/19/2007 07:50:46 AM · #41 |
| I had the top left one pulled out a couple of years ago with no problems, then last September the left bottom one started giving me trouble. I went to my usual dentist and said he cannot pull it out himself because it was impacted and required surgery. So i went to another dentist and he removed it surgically. I had terrible swelling and it kept bleeding (mildly) for a couple of days after that because of all the swelling there was when he extracted it. Now I have to go and pull out the top right hand side one next month. Shouldn't be so problematic or so the dentist said. Then all i have remaining would be the left bottom one which from the x-ray looks totally impacted...that is rotated 90 degrees! Dentist's suggestion is to leave it there and keep fingers crossed for now! |
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01/19/2007 10:02:58 AM · #42 |
How did you get them to sit still in the chair? Moose porn on the tv (my dentist has TVs mounted on the ceiling - I watched the 2006 world hot dog eating contest last time).
Originally posted by Beagleboy:
I have all my wisdom teeth.
Oh and by the way, I used to pull moose teeth once in a while when I was studying to be a biologist. |
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01/19/2007 10:05:28 AM · #43 |
| I had all 4 removed after I got my braces taken off. 1 cut, and the others they blew up to peices. |
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01/19/2007 10:12:51 AM · #44 |
yeesh, dentistry can be violent!
I had all four out this past May and I had very little swelling, bleeding or pain, BUT I didn't realize they'd drilled 4 big holes in my jaw (I was asleep)..so for a few days after surgery I couldn't figure out why this putrid odor was coming out of my mouth (it was like death..seriously..no one would get within 5 feet of me). Turns out the holes were plugged with rotting food. I can't describe the level of disgustedness. |
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01/19/2007 10:55:41 AM · #45 |
I was in the hospital for a week (4 of those days in ICU) for an abcessed tooth, a really bad infection that spread almost overnight. My dentist wouldn't touch me so I was sent to an oral surgeon. They were really worried that the infection would close off my airway and/or spread to my brain, so they rushed me over to the nearest ER to put in a breathing tube and put me under while they extracted the tooth and put drains in for the infection.
So while they were in there they took out 2 wisdom teeth on that side of my mouth. I was kind of laughing about all the hubub at the time, but my wife told me 6 months later that the doctor gave me a 50% chance of "making it." :-/ |
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01/19/2007 11:06:27 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by papagei:
I never got my wisdom teeth - I mean, they are just not there. So I dodged that miserable experience :) |
Right on, ME TOO! Congrats to us no-widom-teeth-ever-haha-to-you-suckers-that-have-wisdom-teeth people! :)
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01/19/2007 11:11:59 AM · #47 |
All four of mine were pulled about six years ago. The tops had actually come in, but my mouth and jaw are so small I couldn't get to them to clean them properly and they were literally crumbling in my mouth and were taken out in pieces. The lowers were totally impacted. I was put under general anesthesia for the procedure because I was so high anxiety about it that he refused to do it any other way and actually fought with the insurance company to get it covered. They also put me on Valium the night before so that I would actually get some sleep. Afterwards I never took anything stronger than extra-strength Tylenol and I was just fine. After I slept the dregs of the anesthesia off, Mom and I went out to Fazioli's, and I was just fine eating breadsticks and slurping a frozen strawberry lemonade. One hole did get infected about a week later, and I was sick for a day as it all drained down my throat (yuck!) but a clindomycin prescription knocked it right out.
Message edited by author 2007-01-19 11:14:59.
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01/19/2007 11:43:57 AM · #48 |
All of mine are still there. My dentists tells me I should get them pulled everytime I see him. My reply to him is always the same, They aren't bothering me so don't let them bother you.
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01/20/2007 02:29:43 AM · #49 |
My mother also never got hers and a dentist told her she was the person of the future because we do not need those teeth any more and they will eventually disappear.
And after these horror stories, boy am I glad I missed out on all that fun!
Originally posted by NightShy:
Originally posted by papagei:
I never got my wisdom teeth - I mean, they are just not there. So I dodged that miserable experience :) |
Right on, ME TOO! Congrats to us no-widom-teeth-ever-haha-to-you-suckers-that-have-wisdom-teeth people! :) |
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01/22/2007 01:22:35 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by banmorn:
Originally posted by bergiekat:
Had 4, all impacted and no room. They were cut/broken out a side at a time when I was in high school
(Yes, they had dentisty back then!!!) :P |
All 4 of mine are gone. [...]they used a hamnmer and chisel on it. And I was under local!LOL! |
They didn't do surgery back then that I'm aware of. Hmmmm
Lucky you...lol. I only had the numbing shots! I can totally relate. Yea...having the dentist break pieces out(that have grown around your jaw bone)is nasty and hand them to his assistant is creepy! For those that have never experienced,(lucky) you feel this horribly intense pressure that goes all the way up your nasal cavity when they are jerking those babies out! You feel like your face will turn inside out! But, my headaches from the teeth went away. (Now, if I could just lose the migraines, lol.)
Message edited by author 2007-01-22 01:28:51. |
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