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01/14/2007 06:24:05 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Won't somebody please think of the stalkers! |
LMAO!!!!!
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01/14/2007 06:26:44 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Won't somebody please think of the stalkers! |
LMAO!!!!! |
They were thinking of the stalkers, now we have the appropriate tools to stalk with :-)
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01/14/2007 06:29:18 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by L2:
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I can't understand how whether or not I'm online is relevant to anyone but myself. |
Well, if I ask you a question in the forums and it shows you are not online, I know not to expect an answer from you for a while. |
Just because you're "online" doesn't mean that you're even looking at the site though. It could just be open along with the dozen other windows you have open at the time. Or you could pop in and take a quick look at a thread then go vote for an hour or two and either close the browser or not. If you were waiting for an answer you could needlessly be there a very long time. |
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01/14/2007 06:30:00 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
I for one, like it. And even being legally blind don't have any trouble distinguishing the gray on gray. |
I am a very fast reader and when you use grey values like they are used now, I tend to read over the name which is extremely irritating. The online/offline indication I can live with, but the grey on grey is utterly crap. Basic tone value effect knowledge = that you don't do it like this.
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01/14/2007 06:31:24 PM · #30 |
maybe a green or red dot beside the name to show status?
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01/14/2007 06:34:29 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by L2:
I can't understand how whether or not I'm online is relevant to anyone but myself. |
Well, if I ask you a question in the forums and it shows you are not online, I know not to expect an answer from you for a while.
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But, if it showed that I WAS online and you still didn't get an answer, wouldn't that aggravate you?
Since we've already established that it's not accurate (at least for some users), it stands to reason that if people are using this feature to set their expectations regarding responses that it would likely lead to frustration.
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01/14/2007 06:36:13 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
maybe a green or red dot beside the name to show status? |
Sounds good.
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01/14/2007 06:36:33 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
maybe a green or red dot beside the name to show status? |
We tried that, and it cluttered up the left panel IMO. Most people understand that links are "greyed out" when they're not available. By greying out the name, it shows that the person is not available.
While it may not be a foolproof way to determine how long someone has been online (or whether they're actually looking at DPC), it's 100% accurate when it shows you're NOT on DPC. ;-) |
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01/14/2007 06:40:32 PM · #34 |
I really really really would like to see some other system or at least something else as grey on grey. To be honest the way it is implemented now just plain sucks.
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01/14/2007 06:41:03 PM · #35 |
Works real well, if ya log out...:-) Just tried it... like ANYONE ever logs out though. :-)
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01/14/2007 06:46:22 PM · #36 |
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01/14/2007 06:46:50 PM · #37 |
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01/14/2007 06:50:25 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Judi:
So do I! |
Judi, you've been online for 3 hours now. Have you been waiting for me? |
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01/14/2007 06:52:48 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
Originally posted by Judi:
So do I! |
Judi, you've been online for 3 hours now. Have you been waiting for me? |
Of course....who else would I be waiting for? Hehehehe!
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01/14/2007 07:13:35 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
maybe a green or red dot beside the name to show status? |
We tried that, and it cluttered up the left panel IMO. Most people understand that links are "greyed out" when they're not available. By greying out the name, it shows that the person is not available. ... |
Did you try desaturating the blue a bit ... not completely grey, just enough to be noticed while still retaining enough color information to stand out a bit. It's a fairly dark blue so that may not be possible.
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01/14/2007 07:14:46 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
We tried that, and it cluttered up the left panel IMO. Most people understand that links are "greyed out" when they're not available. By greying out the name, it shows that the person is not available.
While it may not be a foolproof way to determine how long someone has been online (or whether they're actually looking at DPC), it's 100% accurate when it shows you're NOT on DPC. ;-) |
Again, though... if the information is available as a mouseover, why is the colorchange necessary? Why does the information have to be visibly available on every post in every thread? It's already available in multiple places (mouseover, user's profile, community page)...
In terms of anchor tags, greyed out usually means it's something that you've already visited, not that it's not available. There's no such thing as an anchor that's not available. For the last several days I've been wondering when I visited the profile for someone I've never even seen before... |
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01/14/2007 07:52:56 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by chimericvisions:
... if the information is available as a mouseover, why is the colorchange necessary? |
Because it allows you to see at a glance who's not online. No clicks, no mouseovers, no guessing... just point your eyeballs at the left side of the screen and you can see that someone is not around. Simple. As much as we'd like to see everyone say, "Hey, cool... a new feature," there's no such thing as a change that everybody likes. |
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01/14/2007 08:16:48 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Because it allows you to see at a glance who's not online. No clicks, no mouseovers, no guessing... just point your eyeballs at the left side of the screen and you can see that someone is not around. Simple. As much as we'd like to see everyone say, "Hey, cool... a new feature," there's no such thing as a change that everybody likes. |
I agree - web programming is my day job. Still... the grey/blue is less readable, and more confusing to users because it doesn't follow normal web patterns. |
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01/14/2007 08:24:26 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by chimericvisions:
... the grey/blue is less readable, and more confusing to users because it doesn't follow normal web patterns. |
I can agree with this. But ... the site has essentially locked itself in with the blue/grey color scheme. I would imagine the green/red lights alternatives tried looked so cluttered because they contrasted with the existing color scheme on the rest of the site.
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01/14/2007 08:26:15 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by David.C:
I would imagine the green/red lights alternatives tried looked so cluttered because they contrasted with the existing color scheme on the rest of the site.
David |
Not to mention that those of us who are red/green color-blind find schemes color-coded with tiny dots to be less than useful ... |
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01/14/2007 08:38:01 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by David.C:
I would imagine the green/red lights alternatives tried looked so cluttered because they contrasted with the existing color scheme on the rest of the site.
David |
Not to mention that those of us who are red/green color-blind find schemes color-coded with tiny dots to be less than useful ... |
hehe ... true. But I would think it would abe possible to choose color information that all could differentiate between.
I agree with not adding the colored dots, if color alone is going to be used it makes more sense to use the color of an existing element. Provided it makes sense, and color-coding the username does make sense for this.
David |
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