Who watched good ole W last night?

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/11/2007 02:15:27 PM · #1

I wanted to see what people thought of GW's speech last night on the "new" direction in Iraq.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

01/11/2007 02:18:55 PM · #2

Ah, more controversy. All I can say is, what new direction?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

01/11/2007 02:25:03 PM · #3

instead of controversy, try to think of it as trying to see other peoples' perspective.

I agree, it isn't a new direction. All he did was use a different tone of voice to tell teh nation that we will stay to course.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

01/11/2007 04:21:16 PM · #4

i don't have a tv.

01/11/2007 04:25:48 PM · #5

Originally posted by karmat:

i don't have a tv.

I don't think you missed much.

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01/11/2007 04:27:36 PM · #6

Originally posted by karmat:

i don't have a tv.

I can often tell more about what a person really means by listening to them on the radio, without all the visual distraction.

01/11/2007 04:33:33 PM · #7

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by karmat:
i don't have a tv.

I can often tell more about what a person really means by listening to them on the radio, without all the visual distraction.

I don't think I've got a working radio either ;) or a tv.

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01/11/2007 04:43:37 PM · #8

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by karmat:
i don't have a tv.

I can often tell more about what a person really means by listening to them on the radio, without all the visual distraction.

I don't think I've got a working radio either ;) or a tv.

I can find you several radio stations which are streaming their audio ... you do have an internet connection?

Audio card on my (Windows) computer is non-functional, so I can't hear anything except the fan and the disk drive.

01/11/2007 05:00:02 PM · #9

Originally posted by GeneralE:

I can find you several radio stations which are streaming their audio ... you do have an internet connection?

Are you getting a sense that I'm actively looking for mainstream passive media, but needing help finding it ? :)

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01/11/2007 05:03:00 PM · #10

I read the transcript, so I probably didn't get to enjoy his studdering and terrible pronunciation. I was impressed that 9/11 only showed up once.

Other than that, nothing impressed me at all. It was the same course of action as before just adding 21500 more troops and 5.6 billion dollars. Its just going to be more violent than before. He said we need to change the ideology of the region. that is a task that will not be accomplished. Who does he think he is to change the ideology that has been set through years and years of war and violence?

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

01/11/2007 05:12:03 PM · #11

I honestly wonder (in an unbiased as possible fashion) if W isn't going to go down as one of the worst modern day presidents of all time.

He did give us the "Do Not Call" list though. I gotta give him full props for that one.

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01/11/2007 05:21:21 PM · #12

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I honestly wonder (in an unbiased as possible fashion) if W isn't going to go down as one of the worst modern day presidents of all time.

I think Nixon might give him a run for his money. Though I suppose, at least tricky Dicky did get you out of Vietnam.

Message edited by author 2007-01-11 17:24:49.

DrAchoo

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01/11/2007 05:28:17 PM · #13

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I honestly wonder (in an unbiased as possible fashion) if W isn't going to go down as one of the worst modern day presidents of all time.

I think Nixon might give him a run for his money. Though I suppose, at least tricky Dicky did get you out of Vietnam.

It's also popular to say he "opened the door to China" so he gets two things in his favor.

I wouldn't consider myself enough of a historian to be able to rank presidents, but W has very little going for him these days. If you tried to list his successes, I'm not sure you come up with much of substance.

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01/11/2007 05:31:20 PM · #14

im kind of surprised that with all the people on this site, not one bush supporter has anything to say about last nights speech.

Keith Maniac

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

01/11/2007 05:39:42 PM · #15

Don't we have something like 127,000 troops in Iraq now? If so, I don't see how adding 21,500 troops is going to make a huge difference. That's only about a 17% increase.

I know the additional troops are going to be used to keep Baghdad secure, but still...

Just my 2 cents. I'm the first to admit that I'm not very informed on the subject, so there could easily be something that I'm missing.

fotomann_forever

01/11/2007 05:46:38 PM · #16

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I honestly wonder (in an unbiased as possible fashion) if W isn't going to go down as one of the worst modern day presidents of all time.

Are any war-time presidents ever popular? FWIW, I think Bush got a bad deal ... had 9/11 not happened, we'd likely not be having this discussion at all. I'm sure he had other agendas on his mind when he ran for president the first time.

Either way, he's doing a better job than I would... :-)

Keith Maniac

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01/11/2007 05:48:05 PM · #17

I will say this, though. Watching him last night, I just felt like I was listening to a politician give a speech. And I think he needed to rise above that last night. I think he really needed to reach out and truly connect with the American people, and to inspire confidence that he had a viable, intelligent plan for Iraq. And I don't think he succeeded in that.

Message edited by author 2007-01-11 17:53:53.

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01/11/2007 05:50:20 PM · #18

Originally posted by Gordon:

The USA didn't evacuate from Vietnam until after Ford had been president for a while.

Nixon also brought us the secret bombing of Cambodia, and I think the Gulf of Tonkin deception was Johnson's ...

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01/11/2007 05:51:15 PM · #19

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

I can find you several radio stations which are streaming their audio ... you do have an internet connection?

Are you getting a sense that I'm actively looking for mainstream passive media, but needing help finding it ? :)

No, the settings on your cerebral firewall are clear -- I'm just funnin' you ... : )

muckpond

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01/11/2007 05:52:20 PM · #20

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Are any war-time presidents ever popular?

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

FWIW, I think Bush got a bad deal ... had 9/11 not happened, we'd likely not be having this discussion at all.

you're right. had 9/11 not happened we wouldn't be having this conversation. he'd have been gone 2 years ago.

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

I'm sure he had other agendas on his mind when he ran for president the first time.

like naps. i hear that naps were big up until 9/11.