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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

01/06/2007 02:15:32 PM · #1

i am not upset about the score here, but when i was editing this for the challenge - i was pretty excited about the result.

not many of the comments mentioned much about the negatives of the image - entered in the pattern challenge. at 640px - 100% quality it weighs in at about 550KB !!

Message edited by author 2007-01-06 14:17:14.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

01/06/2007 02:18:53 PM · #2

Pretty good score for it. Might look a little better if all of the marble were in frame? Hard to say, it's very out there.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/06/2007 02:19:30 PM · #3

Left a comment.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

01/06/2007 02:20:39 PM · #4

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Might look a little better if all of the marble were in frame?

No, no it wouldn't. I'm surprised by the score as well. Very low for this image.

wavelength

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

01/06/2007 02:23:03 PM · #5

Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by routerguy666:
Might look a little better if all of the marble were in frame?

No, no it wouldn't. I'm surprised by the score as well. Very low for this image.

Dude, regardless of any artistic virtues, it hurts to look at. Literally, I had to force my brain to stare at it longer, like getting too close to one of those awful black/white patterns they used to put on ties.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

01/06/2007 02:26:28 PM · #6

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by routerguy666:
Might look a little better if all of the marble were in frame?

No, no it wouldn't. I'm surprised by the score as well. Very low for this image.

Dude, regardless of any artistic virtues, it hurts to look at. Literally, I had to force my brain to stare at it longer, like getting too close to one of those awful black/white patterns they used to put on ties.

I like the pain....

:P

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

01/06/2007 02:27:03 PM · #7

Well there you go, sage insight from two professionals.

wavelength

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

01/06/2007 02:28:26 PM · #8

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Well there you go, sage insight from two professionals.

bwahahahahaha ! Certainly you're joking!?! Or you're not talking about me. I'm just a wannabe :P

01/06/2007 02:30:34 PM · #9

i understand the pain - it's part of why i thought it worked perfect for the pattern challenge. it's the pattern that makes your eyes hurt !!

Originally posted by wavelength:

here is one with the marble fully in the frame.

Tamron AF 18-270mm F/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD with Piezo

01/06/2007 02:33:04 PM · #10

yes - negative feedback - that's what i was after ;}

thanks !

ralfw

Canon EOS-60D

01/06/2007 03:18:49 PM · #11

soup - Left a comment on the image. - ralfw

01/06/2007 03:23:43 PM · #12

thanks for the comments.

ralfw - i'll try to find some to time to acheive the effect you mention. being the basic editing rules - there was no way for me to mask - had i been able to use masking the end result may have been a bit more dramatic!

thanks again all !!

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

01/06/2007 03:26:25 PM · #13

my curiosity stems from whether or not i should do a few more of these. my original intention was to do just that. the negative feedback will help me with setting up future compositions.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/06/2007 03:59:59 PM · #14

Looks like you already got some good feedback but I'll chime in if you want some more.

The main issue I have with this is the patterns are not harmonious enough or chaotic enough. There seems to be a bit of a compromise between the two which I think makes for a less impactful image. If you could get the distinct patterns to mesh more (less DOF?) or show more friction I think that would help. Also, your title leaves much to be desired. This is an abstract image so tell me what your abstract idea is. Maybe just call it "Madness" instead of "Marble Madness"?

Message edited by author 2007-01-06 16:00:45.

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED VR

01/06/2007 04:39:46 PM · #15

at f:22 - any less and the screen or top of marble would fall OOF.

i'm not sure what you mean by friction. not chaotic enough? maybe some torn holes/edges in the screen would add the chaos you seek?

maybe the color adjustments were overboard.

here is the original image

Message edited by author 2007-01-06 16:40:00.

Bruce_the_Robert

Nikon D7000

01/06/2007 04:43:19 PM · #16

I commented on this during the voting (comments should show I liked it); in contrast, I don't like the one with the marble fully in frame. As for the original, I guess I bought the patterns being so critical to overall feel of the image. I must admit, on your image, being so clearly within the challenge and creating so dramatic an impression (at least on me; like others, I had to work to look at it, and that worked for me), I did not "analyse" it very stringently. It was that initial impression, which stayed with me each time I saw it, that I liked. Pretty sure I bumped it from a first pass 8 to the final 9 I gave it.

Sorry I can't be more critical!

RH

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/06/2007 04:47:22 PM · #17

^ ;}

thanks

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

01/06/2007 04:48:40 PM · #18

I know you are a good photog soup, so you can handle the criticism. The picture scored exactly where it should have.

A) It's too busy. By your own admission "...an effort to combine as many patterns as possible". I feel it's the photographic equivalent of wearing spots and stripes.

B) The main pattern is a black grid. A black grid is far from dynamic in terms of artistic merit.

I'm not saying it's a terrible shot, 5.8 isn't too bad a score, but I don't think it should have scored much higher.

Promaster 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR IF

01/06/2007 04:57:37 PM · #19

that's exactly the kind of thing i'm looking for. the score is of no importance - really!

upon entering - i thought it would go over better - it didn't - i got mainly positive comments during the challenge. that left me wondering this week what it was that garnered the poorer scores. i'm seeing why now.

as far as the black grid - i like the illusion it creates in a macro. i've got a few spider shots similar to this marble thing. some seem to love it - some seem to hate it. perfectly fine. those that do can enjoy as i'll likely use the old screen fom time to time... ;}

i guess i failed to create the right dynamics with the black screen. artistic merit - that's as subjective as the interpretation of a challenge topic ;}

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

atupdate

Pentax K-R

01/06/2007 07:50:12 PM · #20

I gave this image a 9. I found it very dynamic. I did wonder what it would look like if the left side was cropped into the marble to match the top. When I gave it a try, it seemed like the marble provided a better anchor for the image. Not necessarily better, but different that way.

Message edited by author 2007-01-06 19:53:31.

Jewelly

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

01/07/2007 06:15:49 AM · #21

I think it is a very cool photo that required a lot of thought and planning.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/07/2007 09:52:10 AM · #22

thanks !

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

01/07/2007 10:12:33 AM · #23

I actually like the original much better. The colors seem to blend so much nicer together. It's easier to look at. Not that my opinion matters much, I gave this a 6 in voting.