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01/04/2007 01:28:59 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by mk:
... you're probably not the best person to be responding to my query. |
For once you are mistaken -- I am the best person to respond to any query. ;)
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01/04/2007 04:59:39 AM · #52 |
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01/04/2007 06:57:02 AM · #53 |
I'd rahter see the hijackers spoken too in private by SC ... and the threads left where they lay...
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01/04/2007 08:48:05 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by Di:
I'd rahter see the hijackers spoken too in private by SC ... and the threads left where they lay... |
It isn't normally about hijackers though, mostly its about someone starting a thread to grandstand on some issue that they believe should go their one true way{tm} and then get annoyed when the rest of the world doesn't trot along in line behind. That's usually the way threads that go nuts get started or end up in rant.
Now, whether it's better to lock it or throw it into the rant forum and fester, is a difficult question. If people wouldn't start silly threads in the first place it might be better.
The simplest way would be to lock any thread that popcorn is obviously required for. You can usually spot them pretty early on, before they go south.
Message edited by author 2007-01-04 08:48:42.
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01/04/2007 09:05:47 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Di:
I'd rahter see the hijackers spoken too in private by SC ... and the threads left where they lay... |
It isn't normally about hijackers though, mostly its about someone starting a thread to grandstand on some issue that they believe should go their one true way{tm} and then get annoyed when the rest of the world doesn't trot along in line behind. That's usually the way threads that go nuts get started or end up in rant.
Now, whether it's better to lock it or throw it into the rant forum and fester, is a difficult question. If people wouldn't start silly threads in the first place it might be better.
The simplest way would be to lock any thread that popcorn is obviously required for. You can usually spot them pretty early on, before they go south. |
That's not necessarily true all the time. Sometimes people start threads looking for honest feedback on a photo and get flamed for asking. Then they get angry and flame back. I know it can be annoying for the high scoring gods to give advice to the peons sometimes, but if you don't want to help, then don't. I'm not saying this is always the case, but it happens. Response's such as "you shouldn't ask if you don't want an honest opinion" don't necessarily go hand in hand with "you just suck, so go away and deal with it". BTW - I'm proud of my suckiness and still occasionally ask in forums.
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01/04/2007 10:10:42 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by mk:
... you're probably not the best person to be responding to my query. |
For once you are mistaken -- I am the best person to respond to any query. ;) |
I'll give you best, but not most helpful. ;)
Originally posted by kdsprog:
Response's such as "you shouldn't ask if you don't want an honest opinion" don't necessarily go hand in hand with "you just suck, so go away and deal with it". |
Wow, you must be reading different threads than I am... |
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01/04/2007 10:16:37 AM · #57 |
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01/04/2007 10:22:43 AM · #58 |
SC are making some changes to our policies after reading the points put forward in this thread.
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01/04/2007 10:43:14 AM · #59 |
| Hey, cool! Thanks guys! :) |
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01/04/2007 11:03:03 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by Konador:
SC are making some changes to our policies after reading the points put forward in this thread. |
The common courtesy given to the "OP" is based on the premise that the thread would not exist except "he" chose to start it. Thus, it seems to be a prevailing mentality in the internet world that he/she DOES have a slightly more important position regarding it.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that mentality, up to a reasonable point. |
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01/04/2007 11:45:34 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
The simplest way would be to lock any thread that popcorn is obviously required for. You can usually spot them pretty early on, before they go south. |
At one point, I suggested adding code to automatically generate a Report Post any time the string 'popcorn.gif' appeared in a post. Sadly, the suggestion didn't go anywhere.
~Terry
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01/04/2007 11:49:50 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
At one point, I suggested adding code to automatically generate a Report Post any time the string 'popcorn.gif' appeared in a post. Sadly, the suggestion didn't go anywhere.
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Yup, you're right. :-) |
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01/04/2007 12:20:03 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by Telehubbie:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
At one point, I suggested adding code to automatically generate a Report Post any time the string 'popcorn.gif' appeared in a post. Sadly, the suggestion didn't go anywhere.
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Yup, you're right. :-) |
To be fair, if it *did* generate a report post. It would be entirely behind the scenes. You wouldn't know it.
~Terry
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01/04/2007 12:24:34 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by nards656:
Originally posted by Konador:
SC are making some changes to our policies after reading the points put forward in this thread. |
The common courtesy given to the "OP" is based on the premise that the thread would not exist except "he" chose to start it. Thus, it seems to be a prevailing mentality in the internet world that he/she DOES have a slightly more important position regarding it.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that mentality, up to a reasonable point. |
That's mostly my thoughts on the matter... and not many threads get locked due to the OP asking for it. Most just die due to lack of interest or get locked because ranters get out of control.
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01/04/2007 12:24:37 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
To be fair, if it *did* generate a report post. It would be entirely behind the scenes. You wouldn't know it.
~Terry |
It'd be more fun if it would highlight the thread in red and mark it as 'hot'
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01/04/2007 12:37:45 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by Telehubbie:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
At one point, I suggested adding code to automatically generate a Report Post any time the string 'popcorn.gif' appeared in a post. Sadly, the suggestion didn't go anywhere.
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Yup, you're right. :-) |
To be fair, if it *did* generate a report post. It would be entirely behind the scenes. You wouldn't know it. |
Curious question. Would you have reported your own post by replying with full text as you did? Your text contained popcorn.gif. |
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01/04/2007 12:40:54 PM · #67 |
| I believe that for the sake of the OP, if they want the thread to stay on topic, and it does not do this, it should be fine for them to request a lock. |
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01/04/2007 01:06:48 PM · #68 |
Latecomer Alert!
I agree with MK - partly because her pants are almost the same as mine but mostly because I've also been frustrated by similar happenings.
Whilst I agree that in rare cases where an OP starts a thread that is very personal in nature it's an act of decency/ courtesy to lock it at their request if it turns nasty I do think that, in the vast majority of cases, an OP's request to lock a thread because they simply don't like the direction in which it's going/ nature of the responses should be ignored or given very little weight.
PS Really great to know that SC are actively discussing and considering this issue on the weight of the discussion here. As always, kudos to you folks.
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01/04/2007 01:24:20 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by kyebosh:
I believe that for the sake of the OP, if they want the thread to stay on topic, and it does not do this, it should be fine for them to request a lock. |
If the thread goes off topic, then those who are threadjacking should be reminded that such things are a no-no and IMO, the offending posts should be deleted or moved to a new thread entirely. That would keep the existing thread on track, discourage threadjacking and not stifle new discussions, or the later posting of relevant information.
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01/04/2007 01:30:27 PM · #70 |
| Who decides what is off-topic? |
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01/04/2007 01:33:03 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
If the thread goes off topic, then those who are threadjacking should be reminded that such things are a no-no and IMO, the offending posts should be deleted or moved to a new thread entirely. That would keep the existing thread on track, discourage threadjacking and not stifle new discussions, or the later posting of relevant information. |
That seems reasonable. Though quite often the threads that get locked haven't gone off topic at all. They've stayed entirely on the topic that the original poster started, they just don't like the views expressed
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01/04/2007 01:37:38 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
That seems reasonable. Though quite often the threads that get locked haven't gone off topic at all. They've stayed entirely on the topic that the original poster started, they just don't like the views expressed |
Examples?
'Twould be nice if there were a "Locked Thread" repository rather than having to dig and dig to find them... |
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01/04/2007 01:41:48 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by nards656:
'Twould be nice if there were a "Locked Thread" repository rather than having to dig and dig to find them... |
Or at least a search option.
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01/04/2007 01:48:59 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by nards656:
Examples?
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A purely hypothetical example would be one of the many 'why did this picture/ my picture score so low?' which quite often seem to be from the 'its art and y'all are cretins for not getting it' school of posting.
The responses are often fairly blunt, to the point of the picture and entirely on topic, but probably not what the OP was actually looking for (even if it was literally what was requested)
They go into the locked bin quite often it seems.
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01/04/2007 02:36:54 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
If the thread goes off topic, then those who are threadjacking should be reminded that such things are a no-no and IMO, the offending posts should be deleted or moved to a new thread entirely. That would keep the existing thread on track, discourage threadjacking and not stifle new discussions, or the later posting of relevant information. |
That seems reasonable. Though quite often the threads that get locked haven't gone off topic at all. They've stayed entirely on the topic that the original poster started, they just don't like the views expressed |
Exactly. If someone posts, then gets upset because the replies are contrary to their expectations, then there's no reason for the thread to be locked simply because the OP wants to silence dissention.
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