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06/02/2003 02:55:55 PM · #26 |
I try to avoid paying too much attention to the title, for me the picture should stand on it's own merits. I always feel slightly irked when I have to read a title to figure out what the heck I'm looking at.
But it seems I'm in the minority :-) |
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06/02/2003 03:05:55 PM · #27 |
Maybe we should have Title Of The Week contest where the admins get to post the photo of their choice (maybe from a pool submitted by members) and we all get to submit/vote on titles.
I'd like to see examples of (past) photos where people think the title either helped or hurt significantly ... otherwise this discussion seems distinctly hypothetical and nebulous to me. (distinctly ... nebulous ... get more coffee ....) |
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06/02/2003 03:15:22 PM · #28 |
Maybe we could have an open challenge where all the pictures have no titles and the commenters title them. We could compare and contrast via the forums to see who had the most of one title suggestion.
I think we're due for an open challenge anyway. So why not have a little twist?
Bob |
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06/02/2003 03:18:21 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by inspzil:
Maybe we could have an open challenge where all the pictures have no titles and the commenters title them. We could compare and contrast via the forums to see who had the most of one title suggestion.
I think we're due for an open challenge anyway. So why not have a little twist?
Bob |
That's one way to make sure we each get 120 comments! |
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06/02/2003 03:26:52 PM · #30 |
Er. This is a follow-up to General E's question; 2 comments slipped in while I was looking through my votes to see if I found anything where title affected vote for me.
"Through Rose-Tinted Glasses" in the Duotones. Without the title I would have voted it lower, but the title made me look at it again and gave me a different perspective on the photo.
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=22335
I think that's the only one where it mattered to my vote, although it's hard to remember for sure, but I will note that what I comment on is also affected by the title, sometimes to a large extent.
Message edited by author 2003-06-02 15:28:05. |
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06/02/2003 03:40:12 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I read the titles and I just got a very rude comment left obviously because the fool didn't think my photo met the challenge when it is obviously the home of the subject I used!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My title portrayed it...I'm going to start putting Untitled 1, Untitled 2, and so on in for a title cause it is obvious so many don't read titles and if they do they just don't understand them. |
Just a thought - don't know what the comment was, but maybe the issue they had is right there in your complaint - it is the home of the subject. The challenge description says "the place you call home".
Also, I don't know that answering rudeness with rudesness is necessarily the best response.... |
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06/02/2003 03:41:49 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by qachyk:
Er. This is a follow-up to General E's question; 2 comments slipped in while I was looking through my votes to see if I found anything where title affected vote for me.
"Through Rose-Tinted Glasses" in the Duotones. Without the title I would have voted it lower, but the title made me look at it again and gave me a different perspective on the photo.
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=22335
I think that's the only one where it mattered to my vote, although it's hard to remember for sure, but I will note that what I comment on is also affected by the title, sometimes to a large extent. |
But ... in toning a foliated landscape with red rather than green the photographer "should" have gotten the point across without the title, except for folks like me who can't see that kind of subtle red.
But the use of a "recognizable" phrase as title let you look at it again as not just someone playing around with weird duotone colors.
So, unless everyone is REALLY going to stop for a MINUTE and really look at all the photos, I think the titles serve as a useful adjunct.
Message edited by author 2003-06-02 15:44:27. |
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06/02/2003 03:55:02 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by casualguy:
The title is (or can be) the 'first impression' for the viewer the image. A photo can convey many things, none of which are right or wrong, but the photographer has an opportunity to convey his (or her) interpretation of his own work by using a title.
Choose one wisely. |
Why not move the title to display below the image on the voting page, so folks who wanted their photographic judgement unsullied by verbiage can vote that way, and they want to comment, just decide on the vote first (the title makes no difference, remember?) Those who want to see the title first can scroll down before they vote. |
As I eluded to in my original post, if YOU the photographer want your title to 'irrelevant', then why have one. For me personally, if I see a title on a given photo, it will have 'some' bearing on the feeling the photo imposes, sorry. |
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06/02/2003 03:55:31 PM · #34 |
Ditto. When looking at 200-300 photos, it's not always possible to take a minute or two to appreciate all the photographer intended, and the title *can* help the process along. (As others have mentioned, a bad title can hurt just as much though.)
Personally, I try to take the photo on it's own merit. If I don't "get it", either in understanding what I'm looking at or its relationship to the challenge, I'll then look to the title for help. If I still don't get it, then I'll probably mark it down. On the other hand, if I suddenly do get it, sometimes the cleverness of the shot comes through, and it might boost my impression, and therefore my vote. |
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06/02/2003 04:08:07 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by casualguy:
As I eluded to in my original post, if YOU the photographer want your title to 'irrelevant', then why have one. For me personally, if I see a title on a given photo, it will have 'some' bearing on the feeling the photo imposes, sorry. |
I think you mis-understood me ... I am a dedicated titler and often take them into consideration (almost always as a positive influence) when voting.
Some other people here would rather vote on all photos without titles. For THOSE people I suggest the simple solution of relocating the title to below instead of above the photo, so everyone can choose for themselves whether to see/take into account the titles.
This would be a far easier coding job than the other two options I can think of:
--checkbox on prefs page for "Display Title When Voting"
--button on the voting page to pop-up the title
However, if either of these latter options are considered, I'd REALLY like the same options for individual choice to apply to the photographer's comment field (during the voting) as well .... |
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06/02/2003 04:10:00 PM · #36 |
As a teacher, I would always give one question of "bonus." It couldn't hurt your grade, it could only help you - that's what I do with titles.
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06/02/2003 04:23:23 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
As a teacher, I would always give one question of "bonus." It couldn't hurt your grade, it could only help you - that's what I do with titles. |
That's a pretty good plan. What/who do you teach? |
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06/02/2003 05:07:24 PM · #38 |
I raerely judge on the basis of the title at all.
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06/02/2003 08:12:58 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I read the titles because i think they are an integral part of the image. the title, however, should not answer questions that are generated by the image :) |
I'm with John on this one. And to illustrate, one of john's images:
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=18526
This image isn't half as effective without the title. The understated humor in the title really works, and transforms the meaning of the image. I laughed out loud, very literally, when I saw this one!
Message edited by author 2003-06-02 20:24:18. |
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06/02/2003 08:35:16 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by mavrik:
As a teacher, I would always give one question of "bonus." It couldn't hurt your grade, it could only help you - that's what I do with titles. |
That's a pretty good plan. What/who do you teach? |
I taught English in Korea for a year. :)
M
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06/02/2003 08:40:36 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
As a teacher, I would always give one question of "bonus." It couldn't hurt your grade, it could only help you - that's what I do with titles. |
exactly mavrik. i'm with you 100%. |
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