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12/14/2006 03:00:04 PM · #1 |
Removing text... Because people are overly sensitive...
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12/14/2006 03:03:30 PM · #2 |
It's generally bad form to post outtakes and would-have-also-rans while the challenge is still active. There will be an outtake thread posted once the results are final next week.
Message edited by author 2006-12-14 15:04:15.
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12/14/2006 03:04:50 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
It's generally bad form to post outtakes and would-have-also-rans while the challenge is still active. There will be an outtake thread posted once the results are final next week. |
It is not an outtake. My image in the current challenge isn't even the same subject. |
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12/14/2006 03:06:24 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
It's generally bad form to post outtakes and would-have-also-rans while the challenge is still active. There will be an outtake thread posted once the results are final next week. |
It is not an outtake. My image in the current challenge isn't even the same subject. |
It doesn't matter. I've been hit on this point before, as have others. It's a photo that you're applying specifically to the challenge currently running without entering it, so it falls under the outtake taboo.
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12/14/2006 03:08:19 PM · #5 |
The idea of waiting afterwards is there may be photos like yours that will indirectly get critiqued here and may effect voting. That's at least the argument for waiting until afterwards as I understand it.
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12/14/2006 03:14:36 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
It doesn't matter. I've been hit on this point before, as have others. It's a photo that you're applying specifically to the challenge currently running without entering it, so it falls under the outtake taboo. |
So basically you can't post any image for critique since it could always fall under "Free Study", even though it has no relection on any image entered.
Removed the text in the original post... |
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12/14/2006 03:16:02 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
So basically you can't post any image for critique since it could always fall under "Free Study", even though it has no relection on any image entered. |
This argument falls on deaf ears every time it is offered up. You are right, the "rule" is illogical nonsense, but that's about the end of it. |
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12/14/2006 03:16:24 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
It doesn't matter. I've been hit on this point before, as have others. It's a photo that you're applying specifically to the challenge currently running without entering it, so it falls under the outtake taboo. |
So basically you can't post any image for critique since it could always fall under "Free Study", even though it has no relection on any image entered.
Removed the text in the original post... |
No you can post them but just don't call them "outtakes" or refer to any challenge. I believe that's the standing rule but maybe an SC win chime in. I forget.
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12/14/2006 03:16:48 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
It doesn't matter. I've been hit on this point before, as have others. It's a photo that you're applying specifically to the challenge currently running without entering it, so it falls under the outtake taboo. |
So basically you can't post any image for critique since it could always fall under "Free Study", even though it has no relection on any image entered.
Removed the text in the original post... |
No need to get upset. Its new in the ruleset. You just can't reference a currently running challenge when posting an image for critique if you don't want people thinking its an outtake.
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12/14/2006 03:19:46 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by idnic:
No need to get upset. Its new in the ruleset. You just can't reference a currently running challenge when posting an image for critique if you don't want people thinking its an outtake. |
I'm not upset at all, hope my previous post did make it sound like it was. Just trying to understand the perplexing logic. No biggie. I'll wait till the challenge is done. |
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12/14/2006 03:23:19 PM · #11 |
FYI - Here's the rule being discussed: Forum Rules - Rule #2
"Please do not discuss specific challenge entries or outtakes until voting has ended. Doing so can affect voting and commenting, so please save these discussions for after the end of the voting period. Please report any posts discussing these, and do not reply to them. Outtake threads posted early will be removed." |
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12/14/2006 03:30:06 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
FYI - Here's the rule being discussed: Forum Rules - Rule #2
"Please do not discuss specific challenge entries or outtakes until voting has ended. Doing so can affect voting and commenting, so please save these discussions for after the end of the voting period. Please report any posts discussing these, and do not reply to them. Outtake threads posted early will be removed." |
Seems like you might want to read my posts before commenting.
It wasn't an outtake, it was taken 6 months ago so it doesn't qualify for this challenge(I erased that post), and it isn't even the same subject as my entered picture. So quoting the above doesn't seem to apply. I guess the word Pet in the subject is the term of contention. Really, it is no bother and I am done with the silly topic. Till after the challenge. Thanks all. |
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12/14/2006 03:55:26 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
FYI - Here's the rule being discussed: Forum Rules - Rule #2
"Please do not discuss specific challenge entries or outtakes until voting has ended. Doing so can affect voting and commenting, so please save these discussions for after the end of the voting period. Please report any posts discussing these, and do not reply to them. Outtake threads posted early will be removed." |
Seems like you might want to read my posts before commenting. ... |
Your comments are not what I was responding to. I was just posting the rule in general that others had pointed out in this thread.
Now I'll respond to this thread and your posting in general. When you ask "how would have this fared", you are in essence making a direct tie-in to the current challenge. |
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12/14/2006 04:11:02 PM · #14 |
I'm confused, how do we discern between outtakes and just photos to critique when a photo is brought up for discussion in the forums and would fit in a current challenge. in this thread.
Linkie
No one mentions a thing about it even though its posted on the first day of voting and this one is brought up for discussion although in the current challenge forum and the forum police come out. I'm not saying whats right and whats wrong I'm just concerned we might be sending a mixed message to the members when it happens in one post and not another. I know the OP asked how it would fair, and put it in the current challenge thread I'm just wondering where we draw the line for future reference.
MattO
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12/14/2006 04:16:42 PM · #15 |
Where we draw the line is: there are 377 entries in the current "Pet Portrait" challenge which need to be voted/commented on. By posting a pet portrait in the "current challenge" forum and asking how it would have done in the challenge, the OP is potentially diverting useful input away from the actual challenge. It's sort of like jumping to the head of the line.
Had the image just been posted in the "individual photograph" discussion, with no reference to the current challenge, no feathers would have been ruffled. What's considered inappropriate is the reference, not the image itself. I know the OP was not aware of this subtlety of the rules/guidelines, but that's what these responses are addressing; I don't think anyone is criticizing the OP, really.
The time for asking "How would this have done int he challenge?" is after the voting is closed and the results are posted. Makes perfect sense to me, I don't find it illogical at all.
R.
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12/14/2006 04:31:03 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by jaysonmc:
So basically you can't post any image for critique since it could always fall under "Free Study", even though it has no relection on any image entered. |
This argument falls on deaf ears every time it is offered up. You are right, the "rule" is illogical nonsense, but that's about the end of it. |
What I find even sillier is the notion that I'm not just going to do what I want anyway - if I want to vote, I'll vote. If I want to comment on an image in the forums, I'll do that. The lack of same-topic images in the forums doesn't suddenly make me want to go vote.
Originally posted by MattO:
I'm confused, how do we discern between outtakes and just photos to critique when a photo is brought up for discussion in the forums and would fit in a current challenge. |
I thought I remembered it being said that as long as it was never referred to as an "outtake" of any sort, it was fine. I could be misremembering though.
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12/14/2006 04:32:52 PM · #17 |
It is my understanding that you can post any picture in the forums for comment or critique, ¹ as long it doesn’t have any association in any way to a current challenge in the voting stage and ² the picture will not have a direct impact on any challenge entries in the voting period.
¹ how would of this picture faired in the ABC challenge while ABC challenge is in the voting stage.
² posting a picture of the Brooklyn bridge with other pictures of the Brooklyn bridge in ABC challenge while ABC challenge is in the voting stage.
Message edited by author 2006-12-14 16:35:17. |
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