Whatever happened to....Team Suck

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/13/2006 10:12:53 PM · #2076

Originally posted by bryantbus:

So anyone know what happend to palendrone and K4ffy? I have not seen a post from them or in a challenge for awhile.

Maybe someone should PM them to see if they are still on the team?

quiet_observation

Canon EOS-7D

12/13/2006 10:37:13 PM · #2077

Pet Portrait II

Votes: 114
Views: 140
Avg Vote: 5.8333
Comments: 6

I'm actually pretty shocked at the score.

sickdog

Sony DSC-F828

12/13/2006 10:41:23 PM · #2078

This is a brief explanation about why I became so enraged with one of the comments I recieved in this challenge.

Ten years ago I was homeless and strung out on speed. It was one of the worst periods of my life and I fought and crawled out of it and things have been going awesome since. Sometimes I look back and wonder at the fact that I'm not dead.

When I shot this, I saw a man dieing in the streets right in plain view and took the shot. I'm not even sure I should have submitted it still but there was a lot of emotion involved in the shot and editting it.

I recieved a comment telling me that this was a cheap shot...

Normally I don't care at all when I get a negative comment but this person can kiss my ass... They have no idea what this shot is about.

On the other hand, I really have to thank Posthumous. His comment late in the challenge made my day. It's great to get a good comment during a challenge but it's that much more satisfying when you get one from your own team.

Thanks bro.

griz210

Nikon D300s

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

12/13/2006 10:58:19 PM · #2079

Sickdog

thanks for sharing this. I didnt enter or vote on this challenge so i hadnt seen you shot. you definately captured the emotion. and i am not so sure that being in soft focus isnt fitting.
and a big congrats on your recovery
griz

JuliBoc

Apple iPhone 6s+

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

12/13/2006 11:31:19 PM · #2080

Originally posted by bryantbus:

Pet Portrait II

Votes: 109
Views: 183
Avg Vote: 7.0092
Comments: 12

Careful, the atmosphere is very rare up there in '7' land. Really, this is so impressive. My goal for 2007 is to get a '6', and here you are flirting with '7'. You give all of us suckers hope.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

12/13/2006 11:36:53 PM · #2081

Originally posted by sickdog:

I recieved a comment telling me that this was a cheap shot...

Normally I don't care at all when I get a negative comment but this person can kiss my ass... They have no idea what this shot is about.

That commentor can be ornery and even rude, and sometimes he has tunnel vision, but he knows a lot about photography and sometimes these very traits make him brilliant. Disregard him in this case, but I suggest you don't cut him off completely.

klstover

Panasonic DMC-FZ8

12/14/2006 12:00:19 AM · #2082

sickdog: One of the worst feelings can be when we have a lot of emotional investment in the subject and that just doesn't come across to a viewer. There are always going to be people who see things differently or who just plain don't get it. I understand totally why you're upset and I hope you feel better about it soon. Just focus on the fact that you got a really good shot and it's one that captured something meaningful to you. Those are very awesome things.

sickdog

Sony DSC-F828

12/14/2006 12:14:50 AM · #2083

Originally posted by klstover:

i already feel better about it.

i got some great post challenge comments and a lot of support from fellow suckies.

i'm currently very happy to be on this team and looking forward to entering Pink Floyd.

i'm just trying to think of something that everyone else wont enter.

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G

12/14/2006 08:09:49 AM · #2084

First, congrats to

bryantbus on that 7.0+ How's the air up there? I want to try some myself!

Second, my For Sale entry got DQ'd. Evidently I got rid of too much background stuff (the background was only partially black when I took the shot, and in submission is fully black). Although I'm not happy about the decision, I respect the integrity of the site council, so will move on to Pink Floyd, for which I have a grand idea, if I can pull it off (not likely).

A note of caution to all my fellow suckees: my impression of advanced editing was that heavy cloning in the background is not a problem, due to rule that you can change color of any portion of photo. This is not the case! I post caution because I saw a lot of pet photos with fairly obvious heavy background work - others out there are making the same mistake. There is no worse feeling than getting DQ'd when you thought you were within the rules - especially when your photo is doing well! Don't want it to happy to any of you.

Sickdog send you a PM about post.

bmartuch

Nikon D7200

12/14/2006 08:20:02 AM · #2085

i'm currently very happy to be on this team and looking forward to entering Pink Floyd.

i'm just trying to think of something that everyone else wont enter. [/quote]

I know what you mean about Pink Floyd. I don't want to do the obvious. I have some good ideas but I don't know how hard they will be to pull off.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

12/14/2006 08:47:46 AM · #2086

Sorry to hear that, noraneko. Cleaning up the background in advanced editing is one of the most subjective areas of the Advanced Editing rules and I've seen experienced DPCers get DQd because of it. Keep on truckin'

12/14/2006 08:57:11 AM · #2087

Originally posted by posthumous:

Thanks, Don! I'm glad I didn't get a suspension, as I really want to enter Floyd.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

12/14/2006 09:07:12 AM · #2088

Originally posted by noraneko:

Originally posted by posthumous:
Sorry to hear that, noraneko. Cleaning up the background in advanced editing is one of the most subjective areas of the Advanced Editing rules and I've seen experienced DPCers get DQd because of it. Keep on truckin'

Thanks, Don! I'm glad I didn't get a suspension, as I really want to enter Floyd.

You will get a suspension. (Unless they told you otherwise). It just might not happen immediately. If you get your Floyd entry in before they suspend you, it will stay in. If not, you won't be able to enter. I got the one week suspension when I self-DQ'd, then a week or two later had a DQ. But, it took a little while for it to go through.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

12/14/2006 09:10:39 AM · #2089

Mary, I don't know if you read Phillyist, Sarcasmo's Corner or Shiny Shiny, but if you do see my thread here For the Philly people.

Message edited by author 2006-12-14 09:11:05.

Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Nikon

12/14/2006 09:16:56 AM · #2090

Originally posted by kdsprog:

You will get a suspension. (Unless they told you otherwise).

There was a note at the end of the DQ telling me they "hoped it wouldn't deter me from entering future challenges" so I don't think I've got a suspension? Guess I'll find out :-)

bryantbus

Nikon D70

12/14/2006 09:48:41 AM · #2091

Originally posted by noraneko:

First, congrats to bryantbus on that 7.0+ How's the air up there? I want to try some myself!

Second, my For Sale entry got DQ'd. Evidently I got rid of too much background stuff (the background was only partially black when I took the shot, and in submission is fully black). Although I'm not happy about the decision, I respect the integrity of the site council, so will move on to Pink Floyd, for which I have a grand idea, if I can pull it off (not likely).

A note of caution to all my fellow suckees: my impression of advanced editing was that heavy cloning in the background is not a problem, due to rule that you can change color of any portion of photo. This is not the case! I post caution because I saw a lot of pet photos with fairly obvious heavy background work - others out there are making the same mistake. There is no worse feeling than getting DQ'd when you thought you were within the rules - especially when your photo is doing well! Don't want it to happy to any of you.

Sickdog send you a PM about post.

So I thought you could Clone in advanced editing as long as you do not remove a major element? I may be wrong but I see that as - I can remove dust, glare, imperfection in background, or some power lines - If there is a car, or person, or you took it out side and took out side and replaced the background that is not ok.

Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Nikon

12/14/2006 09:53:51 AM · #2092

Originally posted by bryantbus:

There was part of a fence I cloned out. I have a feeling this one was on the line, so to speak. I'm cool with the DQ. Just wanted to let other suckees know to err on the side of caution.

bryantbus

Nikon D70

12/14/2006 10:15:12 AM · #2093

Stickdog- You are a strong person, I truly admire your strength it takes a lot to open up to a group with such personal information. It is hard sometimes with the challenges because we as the artist feel as though the photo is part of us and it is our expression of the subject at hand so we reveal our inter lives to others. Death is a very harsh subject, I avoided this subject as I have lost both my Mother & Father I think I would not be able to express myself and keep a grip on the technical comments.
You are so lucky to have found your way back to the world. I lost my best friend to meth and I have seen first hand what it can do to families. She turned in to someone else. For a long time I thought I could help her, I gave her money to pay bill but she spent it on drugs. She was a very pretty woman, the drugs gave her winkles, and sores all over she keep saying it was an reaction to some food. I started just buying food for her so her kids would have food. In the end it got ugly, she hit her daughter and the daughter came to live with me for awhile. She blamed me for that and told people I took her child from her. It has now been over a year sense we last spoke. I am not sure I can forgive her for all she did to me during this time. From what I understand she has not changed at all. Death comes in many ways, Stickdog I am glad you are alive and well with us. God bless..CB

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

12/14/2006 11:24:13 AM · #2094

Originally posted by bryantbus:

So I thought you could Clone in advanced editing as long as you do not remove a major element?

The issue is that if you remove all background information to make it pure black, you've removed a major element: the background. Allowing us to remove the entire background would mean there's no need to think about the background when taking the shot, and that makes it too much about editing instead of what's in the frame when you click the shutter button.

SandyP lost a ribbon as a result of the same problem, so know that you're not alone. Just leave a little detail in there so it's clear you actually had a background, and you'll probably be okay. Same goes for silhouettes; if there's detail in the original, darkening it is okay, but not total black.

So indeed, be careful. If you have any doubts, send your edit to the SC using help->contact and ask. I've used that several times, and they're usually pretty quick to respond.

bmartuch

Nikon D7200

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G

12/14/2006 12:00:33 PM · #2095

Sorry to hear about that Catherine. It sounded like you had a pretty good shot going. Do we have to wait till the end to see it or can it be shown now since it has been DQ'd?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

12/14/2006 12:10:17 PM · #2096

Will wait till challenge is over to err on side of caution. Last thing I need is another black mark! (Can't really see how showing would hurt, unless it caused a member of our team to reevaluate another photo/s in the For Sale contest.) Anyway, trust me, it's solid, but nothing out of this world.

silverfoxx

Canon EOS-5D

12/14/2006 12:11:36 PM · #2097

I'm really sory for this Catherine! :( I do know how it feels.
but maybe now we can see some Tchehov interpretations?
:)