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12/10/2006 04:43:53 PM · #1
Edit: Added pic.



By now you know my we built a home this year. See it at my Smugmug site.

Well the other day I noticed some insulation moved oddly in the attic. When I looked down the "hole" I saw that I was looking at my fireplace from the inside. The fireplace is the kind with the "metal" chimmny so there is a cavity all around the fireplace in the wall. A person could fit down there with a very skinny ladder or rope ladder.

Well to my suprise I noticed an open coke can and two moldy containers of Wendy's chicken nuggets. ***Jackass drywallers closed this crap in there on purpose...the items are "eye level" if you were standing on the ground.

I got the nuggets out with a 15 ft shop vac. However, the coke was grabbed at a crappy angle and as I lifted it up with the vac...and it was about a foot from my free hand...it fell...

It is now lodged between some PCV pipe and the sheetrock...with the open end tilted up. Some of the coke spilled to the ground but not much.

I will call the builder on Monday....

The question is...should I need to get this coke out? What are the long term effects of this sugary stuff in my wall? Ants...mold...smell...

...any ideas?

Thanks,

Message edited by author 2006-12-11 22:45:54.
12/10/2006 05:06:32 PM · #2
LOL,

It seems to be some sort of tradition for the subcontractors to leave a surprise inside the walls. We did one remodel where an entire case of empty beer cans cascaded from behind the drywall.

I wouldn't worry too much about the can of Coke unless you see insect activity. If you want to fret about something, ask your contractor which chemical they used for your termite pre-treat.
12/10/2006 05:14:54 PM · #3
You should have taken pictures of your find first, then blackmail the builder with 'em. Oops, I mean, negotiate some compensation? ;)
12/10/2006 06:33:13 PM · #4
I would have left the stuff where it all was and made the contractor come back and remove/repair. That should of shite should not be acceptable and they should be made to correct the issue.
12/10/2006 06:42:46 PM · #5
Lower down a really long straw and drink it.
12/10/2006 06:46:56 PM · #6
Originally posted by jhonan:

Lower down a really long straw and drink it.


Actually, that would work fine - Just duct tape a thick straw to the end of the shop vac (probably work better on the thin attachment) and lower that into the bottle. You can then get the bottle out without a problem. Another method is to lower down a looped string and lasso the top of the bottle.

Message edited by author 2006-12-10 18:47:51.
12/10/2006 06:48:05 PM · #7
I think insects/ants would be my major concern with a Coke can left in the walls. I don't think mold would be as much of an issue....but boy those ants would love that sugar!
12/10/2006 06:53:55 PM · #8
Originally posted by robs:

You can then get the bottle out without a problem. Another method is to lower down a looped string and lasso the top of the bottle.

I think it was a can - in which case I'd attach a really strong magnet to a piece of string and try fishing it out that way. Are coke cans attracted to magnets?
12/10/2006 06:54:00 PM · #9
a piece of wire attached to the end of the shop-vac, bent into a hook small enough to fit into the hole of the can will get it out. Best to practice on an empty first though.

David
12/10/2006 06:57:55 PM · #10
Originally posted by jhonan:

Are coke cans attracted to magnets?


No.
12/10/2006 07:00:14 PM · #11
Originally posted by jhonan:

I think it was a can - in which case I'd attach a really strong magnet to a piece of string and try fishing it out that way. Are coke cans attracted to magnets?


Okay, small issue in that plan :-) The vac and straw would still work. A can, I would just put a hook on the end rather then a loop once it was empty. Don't think they are magnetic enough to cover their weight plus liquid.
12/10/2006 07:59:04 PM · #12
Originally posted by robs:

Originally posted by jhonan:

I think it was a can - in which case I'd attach a really strong magnet to a piece of string and try fishing it out that way. Are coke cans attracted to magnets?


Okay, small issue in that plan :-) The vac and straw would still work. A can, I would just put a hook on the end rather then a loop once it was empty. Don't think they are magnetic enough to cover their weight plus liquid.


They are not magnetic at all; they are aluminum.

Why not borrow a skinny 5-year-old (assuming you don't have one of your own) and lower him/her on a climbing harness? :-)

R.
12/10/2006 08:07:28 PM · #13
My brother bought a house in the Boston area. Seems when the refrigerator was installed, the previous (or perhaps previous previous) owners sealed up some soda, unopened, in the old ice box in the stairway, covered it with plaster and there it sat for 75 years. Maybe your Coke can will become a family treasure some day.
12/10/2006 08:08:50 PM · #14
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


Why not borrow a skinny 5-year-old (assuming you don't have one of your own) and lower him/her on a climbing harness? :-)

R.


Now that sounds like a recipe for a call to 911. Can you picture the conversation with Mom should the child get stuck? Or patching the holes in the drywall if the kid accidentally panics and kicks a hole in the wall.

Use an electrician's fish tape, tape a metal hook to the end and fish the can out that way.

12/10/2006 08:15:51 PM · #15
This is a fun thread. If you are really concerned that ants will get into the can, here are a few suggestions:

1. Pour a can of moth crystals into the cavity.

2. Get a long stick and attach a pad of some sort on the end. Saturate the pad with an adhesive, like Liquid Nails. Stick it down the hole and attach it to the can; leave it there until it cures and lift the can out.

3. Don't worry about it until the ants run out of Coke and start looking for more. Then call the exterminator.
12/10/2006 08:45:29 PM · #16
This is not uncommon actually.
places like foundations, porches, crawlspaces and such end up with the scraps and trash from the construction site. There empty pockets that need filled and they need to get rid of it soooo... The fact that got left there, doesn't surprise me in the least. More than likely was just forgotten as he was working. I would be more concerned about the quality of the workmanship on the building.

12/10/2006 11:54:10 PM · #17
Thanks for all the great replys and ideas !

I think at this point the "hook" method is a long shot because the can is "recessed" between a pvc drain pipe and the drywall. It is not a "straght" drop to the can.

I do however like the "glue" method. I'll think this one out.

Also...I have a "fire ladder" that I purchased for the 2nd floor playroom over the garage. It is a thin ladder, 13 ft long. There is more than enough room for me to fit between the metal "chimmny" and the wall. I may try to climb down that ladder with some "spotters" above. If I chicken out...I'll try glue on a stick.

What do you think of one of those sticky "rat glue traps" on a long stick? I may go buy one and test it on a full can.

Keep the ideas coming. I have a shot of the can I'll post Monday night. Stay tuned!

Kenny
12/11/2006 12:26:31 AM · #18
Originally posted by kenskid:

Also...I have a "fire ladder" that I purchased for the 2nd floor playroom over the garage. It is a thin ladder, 13 ft long. There is more than enough room for me to fit between the metal "chimmny" and the wall. I may try to climb down that ladder with some "spotters" above. If I chicken out...I'll try glue on a stick.


OK - Please make sure the "spotters" have your camera, with flash. If you also record the 911 call when it occurs, it should make a great home movie for us to watch :-)
12/11/2006 12:52:33 AM · #19
Think of it as a time capsule. Someday when your house is old and warn out, some demo crew will think they found a real treasure.
12/11/2006 08:36:38 AM · #20
Originally posted by kenskid:

Thanks for all the great replys and ideas !

I think at this point the "hook" method is a long shot because the can is "recessed" between a pvc drain pipe and the drywall. It is not a "straght" drop to the can.

I do however like the "glue" method. I'll think this one out.

Also...I have a "fire ladder" that I purchased for the 2nd floor playroom over the garage. It is a thin ladder, 13 ft long. There is more than enough room for me to fit between the metal "chimmny" and the wall. I may try to climb down that ladder with some "spotters" above. If I chicken out...I'll try glue on a stick.

What do you think of one of those sticky "rat glue traps" on a long stick? I may go buy one and test it on a full can.

Keep the ideas coming. I have a shot of the can I'll post Monday night. Stay tuned!

Kenny

You could make a "chain" with all the quotation marks in this post and... :-p
12/11/2006 09:34:01 AM · #21
It's hard to tell where this is in relation to your walls; but if you have access through the drywall, here is a technique to reach it from the inside:

With a very sharp razor knife, cut a square in the drywall at a bevel with smallest cut towards the inside. Be very careful not to tear or damage the piece as you remove it. Remove the can without damaging edges of the hole. Then cover the edges of your piece with spackle and stick it back in place.
12/11/2006 10:46:23 PM · #22
Bump b/c I added a picture !
12/11/2006 11:22:58 PM · #23
That'd be easy enough to get at with a fish tape
12/12/2006 01:13:59 AM · #24
Originally posted by greatandsmall:

It seems to be some sort of tradition for the subcontractors to leave a surprise inside the walls.

Same thing with Surgeons. ;-)

In studying your photo with my scientific detail enhancing software package (came bundled with my CSI kit), I would say that the first thing to do is remove the contractor, then the coke can.

12/12/2006 01:18:32 AM · #25
Originally posted by greatandsmall:

It's hard to tell where this is in relation to your walls; but if you have access through the drywall, here is a technique to reach it from the inside:

With a very sharp razor knife, cut a square in the drywall at a bevel with smallest cut towards the inside. Be very careful not to tear or damage the piece as you remove it. Remove the can without damaging edges of the hole. Then cover the edges of your piece with spackle and stick it back in place.


Ah, you've got to love a word like "spackle". ;-)
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