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10/03/2002 06:21:16 PM · #1 |
If you believe a photo broke the rule and selected âRecommend Disqualification for this Pictureâ make your comments. Then voted just like it was not an infraction. What is the next step. If it was not an infraction do you get notified. Case in point. I notice a possible problem that I flagged on Monday morning about 12:30 am (I could not sleep). It is still up stating it was flagged. Dose this mean it has not been resolved? Most of the pictures that have been flagged state in red letters they are within the rules. Dose the photographer know he is in question and who recommend him for disqualification? |
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10/03/2002 06:43:05 PM · #2 |
Milton,
All disqualification requests are reviewed, but not all that are validated get an admin note. Whether a photo gets an admin note depends upon a number of factors, most importantly the number of DQ requests received.
As for your specific request, the request related to whether the photo meets the challenge requirements. We no longer disqualify for not meeting the challenge requirements as in many cases there is too much grey area. I am aware that the rules page is out of date with regard to this issue, it will be corrected with the new site rollout.
-Terry
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10/03/2002 07:40:12 PM · #3 |
Being on the Westcoast I start voting Sunday night. In the first two hours of voting I noticed several submissions that had a red Admins notice saying that the reflective surface in the image was not a mirror (or something to that effect). How could the Admins notices have come about that quickly? |
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10/03/2002 07:41:12 PM · #4 |
But my Disqualification was on a requirement.
Ć¢Photographing a reflection is easy. Now, here's the hard part: don't use a mirror as your reflective surface and don't show your camera in the picture!Ć¢
I thought I saw a camera? I could be wrong.
Dose the photographer know he is in question and who recommend him for disqualification?
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/3/2002 7:40:09 PM. |
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10/03/2002 07:44:26 PM · #5 |
Again, we no longer disqualify for failure to meet the challenge requirements. Whether the photo meets the challenge should be considered in your scoring.
Sorry for any confusion.
-Terry
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10/03/2002 07:45:40 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Milton: But my Disqualification was on a requirement.
[i]Ć¢Photographing a reflection is easy. Now, here's the hard part: don't use a mirror as your reflective surface and don't show your camera in the picture!Ć¢
I thought I saw a camera? I could be wrong.
Dose the photographer know he is in question and who recommend him for disqualification?[/i]
As I think the previous reply said - we do not disqualify on images that do not meet the challenge definition. We only disqualify on editing/ rules violations - e.g., spot editing, illegal filters etc.
The assumption is that the voters will decide if and how an image fails to live up to the challenge or not. See the various long threads each week about what is and isn't on challenge topic for how debated these things are. If you feel the particular image fails to meet the challenge, then please vote accordingly. If you feel a particular image is illegally edited, please vote as if it were legal (and just assume you don't know how it was achieved) and request it to be disqualified. We then confirm with the photographer how the particular edited version was achieved, and compare it with the original to ensure we can repeat the steps.
So again, meeting or not meeting the challenge statement is not grounds for a disqualification. Hope that clears it up.
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/3/2002 8:11:42 PM.
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10/03/2002 08:06:46 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Journey: ...How could the Admins notices have come about that quickly?
if the photog realizes that his/her entry will twist your brain, he/she can request an admin note in advance
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10/03/2002 09:05:44 PM · #8 |
This newbie thank you for your insight. |
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10/03/2002 09:30:35 PM · #9 |
Yeesh... I've already had two comments saying "AHA! I SEE YOUR CAMERA!" And they're absolutely wrong (in fact, I'd love to know what exactly even resembles a camera in my shot). Putting the DQ stuff aside, I'd give 'em the benefit of the doubt while you're scoring unless you can see what is obviously a camera. |
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10/04/2002 12:08:33 AM · #10 |
Remember I said âI thought I saw a cameraâ I can not tell for sure. I gave you the benefit . |
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10/04/2002 12:25:19 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Milton: But my Disqualification was on a requirement.
[i]Ć¢Photographing a reflection is easy. Now, here's the hard part: don't use a mirror as your reflective surface and don't show your camera in the picture!Ć¢
I thought I saw a camera? I could be wrong.
[b]Dose the photographer know he is in question and who recommend him for disqualification?[/b[/i]
Sounds like a comment I made on one of the pictures this week. However, it wasn't me. I have not recommended any pictures this week for DQ. If it makes you feel any better, I got DQ'd in the my corner of the world challenge. Didn't get asked about the picture, just DQ'd. Such is life, I'll live to photograph another day.
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10/04/2002 05:22:26 AM · #12 |
"I got DQ'd in the my corner of the world challenge.."
Can you elaborate on why you got DQ'd? I'm curious. |
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10/04/2002 09:12:51 AM · #13 |
I'm not saying that you were the one who left one of those comments for me... The comments I had were much more decisive ("Your camera is showing" and "Oops you can see the camera"). I'm just saying that unless there is an obvious camera, as opposed to an imaginary one that these guys are seeing, we should give the benefit of the doubt that there isn't one. :)
Originally posted by Milton: Remember I said âI thought I saw a cameraâ I can not tell for sure. I gave you the benefit .
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10/04/2002 11:56:37 AM · #14 |
What the heck! I thought I saw the camera in several shots and commented so. On the other hand, I left my name (well, sort of) and asked the photog to please let me know if I was wrong, so I could adjust my view/score. In some cases, it wasn't so much that the camera was all that visible, but I guessed that it was there. Probably too much honesty here, but flame me as you wish. I have gone back and adjusted as at least two photogs did as requested. Would that qualify me as a narrow, open mind? |
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10/04/2002 10:25:03 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Antithesis: "I got DQ'd in the my corner of the world challenge.."
Can you elaborate on why you got DQ'd? I'm curious.
Got DQ'ed for frames or padding. I don't remember adding a frame or any padding. I know what a frame is, no idea what padding is. There was what looked like a faint blue line down on side, but that was the way it came out of my raggedy old FD-71. Unfortunately those old cameras don't add all the stuff into a jpeg to prove the point.
However, tomorrow is another day... Got me a 717 on order, that'll fix 'em. Now if it will only improve my photographic abilities, I'll be even happier.
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/5/2002 1:51:39 AM.
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10/05/2002 08:54:13 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by spiderman: Originally posted by Journey: [i]...How could the Admins notices have come about that quickly?
if the photog realizes that his/her entry will twist your brain, he/she can request an admin note in advance[/i]
Also, we're just THAT good that we can tell if a mirror was used or not. :) It was actually a lot of fun figuring out if the shot used a mirror or not, if you look closely, it's not impossible to tell.
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