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11/09/2006 03:36:57 PM · #101
by raw shooter are you talking about this software?

//www.pixmantec.com/products/rawshooter_essentials.asp
11/09/2006 03:38:44 PM · #102

Here is my attempt, lots of contrast masking, (maybe 4 or 5 times) diffuse glow faded, Luko USM technique many times faded after I did something new, shadow/highlights a few times, even on the different layers of contrast mapping, gradient maps set to luminosity and a channels mixer where I boosted each channel to 120%.
11/09/2006 03:46:04 PM · #103
Seems to do horrible things to skin tones - like really cheap spray on fake tans. Suppose it has its place. Not much like the original images though which have fantastic light. It looks like the lighting is always used a bit 'hot/ over normal exposure' to punch up the contrast with the subject and backgrounds. I expect that's why Bob's sketch then overlay method works - he's creating an edge mask then darkening the edges, which boosts the separation between subject and background in a similar way.

Message edited by author 2006-11-09 15:46:27.
11/09/2006 03:51:36 PM · #104
Originally posted by Gordon:

Seems to do horrible things to skin tones - like really cheap spray on fake tans. Suppose it has its place. Not much like the original images though which have fantastic light. It looks like the lighting is always used a bit 'hot/ over normal exposure' to punch up the contrast with the subject and backgrounds. I expect that's why Bob's sketch then overlay method works - he's creating an edge mask then darkening the edges, which boosts the separation between subject and background in a similar way.


sure they arent like Dave hills. My example wasnt even light with a flash let alone studio lights. See how much detail it brings out. also the orange on the skin tones is easy to coreect. That was a 5min job
11/09/2006 03:52:10 PM · #105
Originally posted by koriley:

by raw shooter are you talking about this software?

//www.pixmantec.com/products/rawshooter_essentials.asp


first raw shooter. Save 2 versions. import into photo matix
11/09/2006 05:10:08 PM · #106


I went with a slighty more desaturated look with this.
11/09/2006 06:18:03 PM · #107
Originally posted by alexsaberi:

I downloaded photomatrix and had a go.



from


Just a little tip, next time if somone hops onto something like that and manuals down (on their back wheel), that's the trick that the photo usually should show, not the hop before they get onto the box.
It's a cool effect though, I downloaded that program and tried it out a while ago but don't have a good enough image to use it on where it improves it.

edit- if it was a 360 or 180 off the box, ignore what I said, but it doesn't look like it to me.

Message edited by author 2006-11-09 18:19:31.
11/09/2006 08:29:23 PM · #108
ha ! coffee in a gun shop. too funny ;}


11/09/2006 09:43:49 PM · #109
Okay, I don't think this is really looking at all like the stuff Dave Hill was doing, but I certainly had fun playing with it.


11/09/2006 10:39:15 PM · #110
Originally posted by davehillphoto:

Hi guys,
--snip--I'm a big fan of using lights, and I'd say the primary factor of how my images look is the lighting setup. --snipp-- I would totally suggest that new photogs spend less time on PS and more time shooting and playing with lights, and learning how to direct their subjects. --snippp---


seriously, if you haven't listened to me on this yet, swing on over to //strobist.blogspot.com and read the whole dang site. Start on Lighting 101 If you have no lighting skills, you will gain some. If you have lighting skills, you'll make them portable.

Just do it!

I mean, this processing is cool, but the lighting techniques you can use for ANY processing style.
11/09/2006 10:47:50 PM · #111
Thanks Steve... I just read a couple of pages and I'm already hooked. I'll be back when I've got more reading time. Thanks for sharing!

11/09/2006 10:54:48 PM · #112
You will all probably laugh at me, but I haven't so much as used a flash yet. I wouldn't know where to begin.
11/09/2006 10:56:33 PM · #113
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11/09/2006 11:12:25 PM · #114
That is some good stuff. I need to read it all, and there is alot there. I don't own a flash yet, and as I read I would like to practice.

Maybe there should be an interview with that guy that made the blog about lighting for the DPC podcast?
11/10/2006 12:01:56 AM · #115
Originally posted by boomtap:

That is some good stuff. I need to read it all, and there is alot there. I don't own a flash yet, and as I read I would like to practice.

Maybe there should be an interview with that guy that made the blog about lighting for the DPC podcast?
I just got a flash today
11/10/2006 03:16:58 PM · #116
Originally posted by boomtap:

That is some good stuff. I need to read it all, and there is alot there. I don't own a flash yet, and as I read I would like to practice.

Maybe there should be an interview with that guy that made the blog about lighting for the DPC podcast?


that'd be really interesting. The photojournalist being interviewed. ;-)

There was link to a site that had a whole LOT of used Nikon sb-25's and 28's for like $100 a piece. I REALLY wish I had about $500 bucks right now.
11/10/2006 04:33:25 PM · #117
I think the style and finished products are brilliant.
11/10/2006 04:38:11 PM · #118
Ok - my attempt at it - I just had to play. Maybe went a little too far?


11/11/2006 01:17:29 AM · #119
Alright...had to try my hand at this as well. Really enjoyed some of the pics in the David Hill Portfolios.

A pic I took from a sail trip last year.

My b4


and after


Message edited by author 2006-11-11 01:19:34.
11/12/2006 01:44:23 AM · #120
So the speed challenge? Yeah, that was bassed off of this post. And I am not even a member, and I cant submit. And it was originally MY post!
11/12/2006 01:46:38 AM · #121
Originally posted by fallingretina:

So the speed challenge? Yeah, that was bassed off of this post. And I am not even a member, and I cant submit. And it was originally MY post!


Don't worry, I forsee LOTS of landscape shots in that challenge. HDR is great for that type of photography.
11/12/2006 02:58:57 AM · #122
Originally posted by fallingretina:

So the speed challenge? Yeah, that was bassed off of this post. And I am not even a member, and I cant submit. And it was originally MY post!

Based off this one? Perhaps ... or that one ... or maybe even this other one. :D

HDR has been a fairly hot topic here for a few months. The discussion picked up pace heavily first in this thread though, iirc.

David
11/14/2006 10:40:48 PM · #123
Hey, I just stumbled upon this thread and saw my name mentioned, very flattered by the way!
I am gonna let the cat outta the bag, as I don't mind sharing secrets .HA! For some reason this filter is one that not many who use like to say they do. But my guess is that it is the Lucis Art Filter that is being used. It has this same dramatic effect.
I use photoshop and Corel Painter IX to get my 'look' but I do sometimes use the Lucis filter and adjust opacity as it can really dirty up an image, depending on the image though, some look great dirty :) It really defines the lines. I also use the high pass filter in PS for a somewhat similar effect. I have a new DVD coming out the end of the month with just photoshop techniques, so if interested ,check my site the end of the month for that one. Thanks for the kind words ya'll , I appreciate it and hope this was helpful!
Susi
11/15/2006 11:29:29 AM · #124
its not HDR, more like DHP, and I would guess dave hill does some other minor effects as well and the fact that his resolution is prob amazing + his lighting as mentioned before. I threw this together, not the greatest shot but it somewhat demonstrates the effect

11/15/2006 11:34:45 AM · #125
Originally posted by MAK:

Originally posted by AJAger:

Dave Hill?? Wasn't he the guitarist in Slade?


You live in my head dude.. come on feel the noise


MAK, plenty of Slade in the upcoming month mate...

"Iiiiiiitttttt'ssssss Chriiiiiiiiiiiiistmaaaaaaaaaaaaas"
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