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05/14/2003 12:27:28 PM · #1 |
Ok, I know applying Gaussian Blur and adding Noise is now legal...
But can the effect be faded? ie, blur your image, and then fade the gaussian blur (say 60-70%) so that your photo has the softness you desire but also contains detail...
Same for noise...add noise but then fade it for a less pronounced effect.
Fading is an option in Photoshop and effects the whole image, but still I'm not sure if its allowable.
Message edited by author 2003-05-14 12:32:11.
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05/14/2003 12:39:37 PM · #2 |
What are the mechanics of doing this?
-Terry
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05/14/2003 01:05:02 PM · #3 |
simple solution would be to do your blur and mods on a new layer and then change the opacity of that layer to achieve the effect you are looking for...
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05/14/2003 01:32:59 PM · #4 |
| Sylandrix, don't see why the Fade feature under the Edit menu wouldn't be allowed. I always fiddle with the Fade too whenever using filters (not necessarily talking dpc here). If blur and opacity changes are allowed on a separate layer, then i don't see why one couldn't use the Fade feature for dpc challenges. |
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05/14/2003 02:51:45 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
simple solution would be to do your blur and mods on a new layer and then change the opacity of that layer to achieve the effect you are looking for... |
This sounds like DPC-illegal layering/blending/compositing. You could maybe apply the blur tool to one of the color channels, but I DON'T think you can copy the image to a new layer, filter it, and then composite it back with the original. |
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05/14/2003 02:53:13 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
simple solution would be to do your blur and mods on a new layer and then change the opacity of that layer to achieve the effect you are looking for... |
This sounds like DPC-illegal layering/blending/compositing. You could maybe apply the blur tool to one of the color channels, but I DON'T think you can copy the image to a new layer, filter it, and then composite it back with the original. |
It's not illegal...
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05/14/2003 02:57:03 PM · #7 |
It is not necessary to copy the image to a new layer and lower the opacity to achieve the effect...
You can Gaussian blur the image, select Edit->Fade Gaussian Blur
and from that dialog fade the blur you just performed on the original image.
So far the consensus is its legal... wish that rule was in effect when I did "Bluetopia", would have really reduced the imperfections in my mask :)
Any other takers?
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05/14/2003 03:04:18 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
It's not illegal... |
Layers: Only adjustment layers may be used, and the layer must be applied in normal mode. All other types of layers and all other blending methods (modes) are prohibited. Layers may not be used to apply a prohibited effect to an image.
How does what you describe not violate the above rule. I'll be happy to use layers, but it seems impossible right now. I can see though that applying a fade effect to an otherwise-legal filter could be OK. |
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05/14/2003 03:09:53 PM · #9 |
Agree with GeneralE. Since gaussian blur is allowed, i conclude that Fade of the gaussian blur is equally allowed since it's really part and parcel of the same tool.
What jmsetzler is suggesting, seems opening the door towards more extensive editing/compositing. Even without doing anything else to it, just by duplicating the basic image layer and setting that to screen or multiply or difference or whatever, you're effecting a major departure from the basic image which doesn't seem to follow the spirit of the challenge editing rules.
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05/14/2003 08:51:20 PM · #10 |
I think what John meant too was valid...If the photo is copied in normal mode and the opacity changed then you in effect are fading the gaussian blur....
One is allowed, the other is not, but the exact same image is achieved!!!
IF the image is achievable in a legal way, then it doesn't matter what steps are taken to get to it.
Just wanted to make sure fading an effect is considered legal, and I will from now on assume it is - better not get DQed as a result :) :)
Thanks everyone for their input!,
Dave
Originally posted by Journey:
Agree with GeneralE. Since gaussian blur is allowed, i conclude that Fade of the gaussian blur is equally allowed since it's really part and parcel of the same tool.
What jmsetzler is suggesting, seems opening the door towards more extensive editing/compositing. Even without doing anything else to it, just by duplicating the basic image layer and setting that to screen or multiply or difference or whatever, you're effecting a major departure from the basic image which doesn't seem to follow the spirit of the challenge editing rules. |
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