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10/31/2006 06:29:49 AM · #1 |
Yesterday I sent my apology and some deliberations about the suspension situation on the thread "WPL investiagtion result", but because very few seem to have seen it (just one have commented on it) I have decided to put it here on a new thread so more members can see it. Here it is:
Every matter has two sides at least, life is not just black and white. And when we are dealing with some matters like this particular case that concerns real people it is very importand to act with caution and care, try to see all the sides of it and avoid to judge.
Immediately after these suspensions where announced in this forum, when nobody even knew who were suspended (we that were suspended didn’t even know it, because nobody bothered to let us know) many people started to shout: CHEATERS, CHEATERS! And they shouted on a moment when it was impossible to see more than one side.
A community like this here on DPC reflects the real life in all it’s colourful scale. We members are of course all human, made of flesh and blood, we are all frail and weak, we all make mistakes, not only we that were suspended but all the rest of the community as well.
I made a mistake but I am no cheater and neither are the others that have been banned. We are ordinary people just like the rest of this community. What’s more it has shown clearly in all this course of events, many others have made mistakes. I haven’t had time to read all this thread, but I have seen negative exclamations, over-hasty judgements and generalizations, even rudy attacks. I will not name, accuse or judge anybody, but my opinion is that when some people are found guilty of something, the course of the issue not only depends on the reacton of those who are accused (me and the 5 in this case) but also and even more on the others who feel they are more good and just. Because exactly in that circumstances they have much more moral space to show how just they really are, for the benefit for the community.
I made a mistake and I am really sorry for that, so I apologize to all of you. And as I have already said, many others have also made mistakes here. I think it is necessary to put an end on this process as soon as possible, or else the whole community will suffer more and more from it. Rather than rubbing salt in wounds and sow seeds of suspicion, mistrust and anger, lets instead try to heal the community again with more consideration, understanding and friendship.
Whether we are Christians or not I think it is good for all of us to read Matthew 7:1-5
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10/31/2006 06:32:33 AM · #2 |
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10/31/2006 06:42:29 AM · #3 |
Yes, your mail drowned in the pool. A good idea to post this here.
We all do make mistakes. It is my belief that most of those mistakes are unintentional as I am sure your's was.
Yes, let's move on, get back to the business of taking pictures and with no hard feelings.
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10/31/2006 06:43:14 AM · #4 |
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10/31/2006 06:48:39 AM · #5 |
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10/31/2006 07:24:08 AM · #6 |
Very well-said. Let's move on.:)
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10/31/2006 07:25:31 AM · #7 |
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10/31/2006 07:30:55 AM · #8 |
| Well said! I'm sure the majority don't think of you (and the others) as cheaters. Let's move on! ... and please continue to take your awesome shots :) |
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10/31/2006 07:58:20 AM · #9 |
Accepted, I look forward to seeing your work again soon.
edit spelling
Message edited by author 2006-10-31 07:58:38.
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10/31/2006 07:59:51 AM · #10 |
Thank you for your apoology.
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10/31/2006 08:04:15 AM · #11 |
| Thank you for your apology Brin. |
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10/31/2006 08:11:26 AM · #12 |
OK, even though you have managed to collect many ribbons without making any 'mistakes'....
Even though you have a talent and did not need to participate in the 'mistake'....
Even though you are old enough to know that the 'mistake' was not the correct avenue to waste your time with....
There must be a punishment!
NO X-BOX FOR A YEAR!!!!
Damn kids.
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10/31/2006 08:11:48 AM · #13 |
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10/31/2006 08:12:32 AM · #14 |
Thank you Bragi...you have made an exceptional comment, and yes that scripture is great for this sitiation. God Bless you.
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10/31/2006 08:16:02 AM · #15 |
Oh, and just in case anyone wanted to know what that scripture that Brin (Bragi) quoted was:
Matthew 7
A Simple Guide for Behavior
1-5 "Don't pick on people, jump on their failures, criticize their faults— unless, of course, you want the same treatment. That critical spirit has a way of boomeranging. It's easy to see a smudge on your neighbor's face and be oblivious to the ugly sneer on your own. Do you have the nerve to say, 'Let me wash your face for you,' when your own face is distorted by contempt? It's this whole traveling road-show mentality all over again, playing a holier-than-thou part instead of just living your part. Wipe that ugly sneer off your own face, and you might be fit to offer a washcloth to your neighbor.
I hope no one gets offended by that, but just thought I would help, being a pastor and everything...
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10/31/2006 08:20:54 AM · #16 |
Thanks, Brin. Great post.
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10/31/2006 09:27:16 AM · #17 |
Everybody makes mistakes.
It's what happens next that is important.
Good post,  brin. |
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10/31/2006 09:30:29 AM · #18 |
I think you'll find most DPCers are very forgiving of one mistake..... but we do have long memories and probably wouldn't tolerate a 2nd similar 'error'. Thanks for being a man and admitting your mistake openly to this community. Appology accepted.
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10/31/2006 09:52:48 AM · #19 |
Its been my experience that that true measure of a person is revealed by their behavior/response to difficult situations. I admire your courage and honesty for admitting the mistake and I look forward to seeing your photographs in future challanges.
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10/31/2006 09:59:52 AM · #20 |
I am going to go against the grain here. It makes my blood boil how people think that after something like this (or any other f-up) they can just apologize, do some sweet talking and and that our hearts will melt and and we'll feel bad for you.
Unfortunately, it seems like that is usually the case around here. I'm sorry but an apology just isn't enough. I think it was become a case of "i'll do this or that and then just beg for forgiveness". It doesn't work that way.
Yes, you made a mistake. You made the conscious decision to cheat. Admit to that and face it like an adult. Don't make excuses. No one put a gun to your head to do anythiing. Just face up. I'd, personally, be more sympathetic to that. Just my 2 cents.
June
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10/31/2006 10:05:04 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by Chiqui:
I am going to go against the grain here. It makes my blood boil how people think that after something like this (or any other f-up) they can just apologize, do some sweet talking and and that our hearts will melt and and we'll feel bad for you.
Unfortunately, it seems like that is usually the case around here. I'm sorry but an apology just isn't enough. I think it was become a case of "i'll do this or that and then just beg for forgiveness". It doesn't work that way.
Yes, you made a mistake. You made the conscious decision to cheat. Admit to that and face it like an adult. Don't make excuses. No one put a gun to your head to do anythiing. Just face up. I'd, personally, be more sympathetic to that. Just my 2 cents. |
Wow... that's harsh. I don't know the situation or anything, but I am proud of you Brin. I don't care if the 'mistake' was intentional or not, but YOU had the gutts to make it right. I will surely see you here again. Happy shooting!
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10/31/2006 10:05:18 AM · #22 |
Chiqui, quite frankly, I think that is what he is doing.
brin, i did see your post yesterday, and pointed it out to the SC. thank you for not fighting it every step of the way. |
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10/31/2006 10:13:09 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by Chiqui:
I am going to go against the grain here. It makes my blood boil how people think that after something like this (or any other f-up) they can just apologize, do some sweet talking and and that our hearts will melt and and we'll feel bad for you.
Unfortunately, it seems like that is usually the case around here. I'm sorry but an apology just isn't enough. I think it was become a case of "i'll do this or that and then just beg for forgiveness". It doesn't work that way.
Yes, you made a mistake. You made the conscious decision to cheat. Admit to that and face it like an adult. Don't make excuses. No one put a gun to your head to do anythiing. Just face up. I'd, personally, be more sympathetic to that. Just my 2 cents.
June |
bravo! you said it in a nutshell.. this thread reminds me of the whole Rikki crap |
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10/31/2006 10:15:47 AM · #24 |
"I made a mistake but I am no cheater and neither are the others that have been banned."
The mistake was cheating.
So if it makes you feel better we'll call you mistakers.
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10/31/2006 10:20:27 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by rswank:
"I made a mistake but I am no cheater and neither are the others that have been banned."
The mistake was cheating.
So if it makes you feel better we'll call you mistakers. |
Yeah, I wasn't too impressed with the apology, either. It reminds me of politicians' apologies.
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