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10/26/2006 09:46:50 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Actually, I can pass on the $200. If it weren't for the fact I'd probably get arrested, I'd like to have it hauled to the middle of the deserted parking lot and set it on fire. Just think of the photo op. |
Maybe see if a local school/church is having any kind of fundraising fair or festival -- people often pay $1-5/swing to whack away at a junked car with a sledge hammer -- then let the organization deal with disposing of the remains ... |
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10/26/2006 09:50:54 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Chrysler.
I do so wish they'd spin off the Jeep line, since I still like those. |
Actually, I had the same exact problem with a Chrysler Concorde. 3 Times! The first time was a week after I bought it. Driving down the highway, doing 55mph and it just died. I can tell you this, it will be an electronic chip that turns out to be the problem. $500 a pop (and that was 8 years ago). Replaced the chip the first time, it lasted 3 years then went again. Two months after that it went again. I had a bumper to bumper warranty, but that wasn't covered. How's that work? That's when I traded it in for a Jeep Cherokee. I've had that 5 years now. No problems. |
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10/26/2006 11:00:14 PM · #28 |
My biggest problem is I just can't see putting any more money into it if I can't be sure it's fixed. And it's just not safe to drive the way it is. So where does that leave me? Do I have any insurance recourse? Can I sue Chrysler and get rich and retire and buy more glass?
Most importantly, how the hell am I gonna get to work tomorrow? |
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10/26/2006 11:12:14 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Most importantly, how the hell am I gonna get to work tomorrow? |
Cab? Bus? Car rental? I know under lemon laws, the same thing has to go wrong 3 times. I didn't pursue it. I just know I'd never buy another Chrysler. |
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10/26/2006 11:25:04 PM · #30 |
I just feel like saying Phuque...
Deb, I hope it works out for ya... I'd hold the dealership responsible. That car should have been repaired. Take a cab to work and place the bill in thier hands.
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10/26/2006 11:27:38 PM · #31 |
Can I just go ahead and cry now? My insurance company doesn't cover a rental unless I've been in a wreck. They also said that if I sell the car, that even if I let the buyer know the car has this potential problem (suddenly shutting itself off), that the buyer could, if that happens and he's injured, sue me and I would NOT be covered by my insurance since the title will have transferred. Why do I pay all that money to an insurance company? What do I get out of it?
I think I'll just not go to work tomorrow. I'll stay here in my empty house and stare at walls or something equally friggin' constructive.
Sigh. |
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10/26/2006 11:37:30 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Why do I pay all that money to an insurance company? What do I get out of it?
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Insurance is designed to cover sudden and accidental losses, the type that a reasonable person with general knowledge and understanding of the circumstances could not have foreseen.
So, unfortunately, if you sell the car with a known problem it could be argued that you could have reasonably foreseen this particular issue could cause an accident, thus, liable.
You could sell the car "As Is" and maybe avoid some of that, depends on the laws in your state.
In the end, I'd look to the repair shop for coverage of the rental this second time around. After all, they released it to you with an implied warranty that the problem was solved. Probably won't get anywhere, but maybe they have a loaner available? Worth a try.
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10/26/2006 11:40:46 PM · #33 |
I simply wouldn't feel right selling the car at all unless I knew the problem had been correctly identified and fixed. I don't know how to know that.
I'll ask the dealer if they'll cover a rental. And I also want them to show me what they repaired and tested yesterday and the day before - best I could tell the battery compartment wasn't touched at all - it's just as dirty and dusty as it was when I took it in. |
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10/26/2006 11:43:35 PM · #34 |
Deb - before two weeks ago, my scores were sooooo awful and then suddenly BOOM - they were back up on top again. I had a very long hiatus of low scores, so don't take it to heart.
Oh, wish you lived here in town. I'd give you a ride to work.
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10/26/2006 11:44:59 PM · #35 |
PM BradP, I'm sure he'll have some pointers for ya about the car.
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10/26/2006 11:47:48 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
...the battery compartment wasn't touched at all - it's just as dirty and dusty as it was when I took it in. |
From L2's Roadside Disablement file: dirty/dusty contacts can cause intermittent problems with starting. (Especially true if you've just had your battery replaced on an old vehicle.) Take a screwdriver/hammer/handy rock and gently bang the + and - sign thingys on the battery a couple of times....might loosen up something that's preventing the electrical circuit from completing the start cycle.
Emphasize gently, but you still want to give it a few good whacks.
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10/26/2006 11:48:17 PM · #37 |
Sorry to hear Deb. Where's BradP when you need him? That dude pops up every time someone needs a photo repaired and I hear he's a mechanic... So how about it Brad? Time to kick some more butt here!
Just kidding!
ETA: Dammit Leroy.
Message edited by author 2006-10-26 23:49:11. |
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10/26/2006 11:59:50 PM · #38 |
Oh - you can also pour a coke, or any other carbonated beverage, if there is corrosion. It works. I've done it.
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10/27/2006 12:08:48 AM · #39 |
Eeeee. . ..so sorry about your car, Deb! Maybe someone who loves to work on cars will buy it to fix up. It really is a BEAUTIFUL car.
Just what you need as you are getting ready to move.
Maybe you should just take the day off tomorrow. Go on a super long bike ride. Take beautiful Deb-pictures, just for you, and maybe it might all seem a little better.
I hope so!
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10/27/2006 09:03:13 AM · #40 |
Having been in the car business, and with a husband who has been in it for 28 years, I understand BOTH sides of that coin. It's just like diagnosing a strange illness. When there isn't a definitive clue, or an obvious broken piece, part etc, sometimes, it's a matter of deductive reasoning, but that takes time and unfortunately, it's a pain when it costs you.
My son has a 2003 Jetta and although the miles are relatively high for that model year, he had something go wrong with his cooling system and $500 later, it was supposedly fixed. Well, guess what? Two days later, the check engine light is back on, so here we go.
Oh and you can always say "phuquing" instead of freaking. That is a great word. It almost sounds French. ROFL
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10/27/2006 09:25:26 AM · #41 |
Deb, I have a new Suck Mantra for you:
People with good averages are good at being average...
I know the math doesn't quite add up, but it feels good! Say it!
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10/27/2006 10:25:54 AM · #42 |
Out here there are several boys homes that take people's cars as donations, fix them up and sell them to raise funds. They give you a receipt you can give to your tax man and the value of the car is tax deductable.
Thus you do something good and you save some $$$ on taxes. Maybe look into it?
As for the problem with the car, it sounds electrical and could be anything. I'm guessing the dealer looked at the codes and didn't get anything helpful? With something like that you normally just start replacing things, starting with the cheapest things like fuses, relays and sensors. Eventually you run out of money or it's fixed!
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10/27/2006 10:30:54 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Deb, I have a new Suck Mantra for you:
People with good averages are good at being average...
I know the math doesn't quite add up, but it feels good! Say it! |
Corollary being people that are good at sucking are at least good at something, right? ;-)
Update - I have a rental Silverado truck courtesy of the dealer. It's gotta look funny from an onlooker's point of view - I'm sure it appears no one is driving the truck - it's huge, I am not. I can barely see out of the thing.
As for what's wrong with the car? I suspect that since Day 1 it's had a bad wiring harness. Can't prove it and the dealer can't determine it if it's intermittent.
And I may indeed end up donating it. Though I still prefer the idea of setting it on fire... |
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10/27/2006 05:24:26 PM · #44 |
Update!
Seems when the service writer went out early this morning, it had lights (ie open the door and the dash lights/interior lights came on) but when he tried to turn it over - nothing, and lights all went out. A ha! I'm not lying!
But... mechanic goes out two hours later - car starts right up with nary a twitch. Haven't had a problem with it since. So they're keeping it another day.
Sigh. I think I'm totally hosed. |
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10/27/2006 05:51:51 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Though I still prefer the idea of setting it on fire... |
Too bad you don't have this OnStar service. |
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10/27/2006 07:46:52 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Update!
Seems when the service writer went out early this morning, it had lights (ie open the door and the dash lights/interior lights came on) but when he tried to turn it over - nothing, and lights all went out. A ha! I'm not lying!
But... mechanic goes out two hours later - car starts right up with nary a twitch. Haven't had a problem with it since. So they're keeping it another day. |
Sounds like a bad connection to the battery, or a bad ground.
What kinda Chrysler is this Make/Model/engine size?
Message edited by author 2006-10-27 19:47:14. |
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10/27/2006 07:48:28 PM · #47 |
You'd think they'd check for something like a bad connection, wouldn't you? But apparently they don't manually check anything. Everything has to be "analyzed" by the computer. No such thing as manual inspection these days.
It's a 2001 Sebring convertible (LXi) model with a 6 cyl, DOHC engine. And apparently a really sucky wiring harness/electrical system. |
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10/27/2006 07:53:33 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Chrysler.
I do so wish they'd spin off the Jeep line, since I still like those. |
If you recall, we were driving a 1993 Jeep on the Cape, and it was working just fine, thank you :-) You can take heart in knowing you're soon to be in Germany, where they still know how to make cars...
R. |
Hmmmm, last time I checked it was DaimlerChrysler:) Got an 01 Audi A6 4.2L setting in the bay needing a waterpump and timing belt. Sitting behind it is a 99 Volkwagen Jetta VR6 that intermintanly doesn't start, got my scope hooked up the crank and cam sensors ready to catch it when it does act up. Seems they make cars like anyone else:) |
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10/27/2006 08:06:12 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
You'd think they'd check for something like a bad connection, wouldn't you? But apparently they don't manually check anything. Everything has to be "analyzed" by the computer. No such thing as manual inspection these days. |
Well if its loosing battery power, when you turn it over (crank it) but it had all the normal lights before hand, and nothing after, it tells me its a bad connection. So when you first open the door everything seems normal and when cranking (Starter will draw up to 200 amps) overloads the connection and no more power.
But I need to know some more stuff:
What exactly did it do when you drove it? You said insturment lights flashed? How about other lights (headlights/parking lights?) Was the car stalling?
Originally posted by Melethia:
It's a 2001 Sebring convertible (LXi) model with a 6 cyl, DOHC engine. And apparently a really sucky wiring harness/electrical system. |
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10/27/2006 08:13:21 PM · #50 |
| Did you get a new battery? |
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