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10/18/2006 11:03:21 AM · #1 |
Okay,
So, I had an entry I thought might be about a 5. As usual, scored well below that and want some constructive feedback to tell me what would have made this picture better.
I know it is not as creative as many of the top entries, but it even got voted below some that did not meet the challenge criteria "Include a rubber ducky in your photo"
I appreciated the aspect of the subjects head (dog's head) being cut off and would agree that is one area for improvement.
So please let me know your thoughts.
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10/18/2006 11:04:40 AM · #2 |
| First thing that jumps out at me is the color temp, it's way too cool - need to warm it up a bit. |
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10/18/2006 11:08:08 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
First thing that jumps out at me is the color temp, it's way too cool - need to warm it up a bit. |
Thanks. Great start. Since I'm pretty new to shooting SLR and processing, just to be sure I understand. Would you say that adding more reds or intensifying the rusty red color of the dogs coat would help "warm" it? or are other elements needed in the photo to help do that?
Message edited by author 2006-10-18 11:08:19.
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10/18/2006 11:08:18 AM · #4 |
I think its an excellent shot of your dog, but the ducks don't really make sense in the composition. Since the challenge was Ducky, the emphasis should be on the ducks instead of the dog. DPC voters love a simple image with simple composition.
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10/18/2006 11:11:16 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by idnic:
DPC voters love a simple image with simple composition. |
Oooh that's it! :D |
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10/18/2006 11:11:36 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by idnic:
I think its an excellent shot of your dog, but the ducks don't really make sense in the composition. Since the challenge was Ducky, the emphasis should be on the ducks instead of the dog. DPC voters love a simple image with simple composition. |
Gotcha. I was afraid the bed was not the best place for the shot. Better composition area would have been Outdoors. I just was limited on time and it was too dark outside to get a shot. I got a few grassy shots the day before , but they did not turn out the way I wanted as the subject was being fussy.
Hmm, okay, I still have a little trouble with the interpretation of the challenge since it was to include a ducky and the ducky was not only included but are related to the dog as she is a retriever (game retrieval). Since I've gotten more than one comment on that, it obviously was not the message the photo was sending. I hoped the title would enhance that (Domesticated Dog, Duck Retrieval). I just took it as Duck = Retriever = Related. Bad assumption on my part.
GOOD FEEDBACK THUS FAR.. KEEP IT COMING... THANKS.
Message edited by author 2006-10-18 11:14:15.
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10/18/2006 11:15:05 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by biteme:
Originally posted by idnic:
DPC voters love a simple image with simple composition. |
Oooh that's it! :D |
LOL Hann, You say that like I just gave away some deep dark secret :P
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10/18/2006 11:16:22 AM · #8 |
| Maybe if you had a yellow or orange bandana around the dog's neck instead-to go with the ducks' colors. I don't know if it's just me, but my eye is directed straight towards the bright red in the picture. I agree with the color temperature, looks a little blue. I do like how you have the background darkened, it makes the dog stand out more. Cute dog, by the way. I hope this helps. |
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10/18/2006 11:19:33 AM · #9 |
to be honest i dont vote as high on shots that have:
a dog or a cat
a piece of computer equiment
a piece of camera equipment
and it looks like an on camera flash which was a bit harsh
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10/18/2006 11:20:38 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by rtscribbs02:
Maybe if you had a yellow or orange bandana around the dog's neck instead-to go with the ducks' colors. I don't know if it's just me, but my eye is directed straight towards the bright red in the picture. I agree with the color temperature, looks a little blue. I do like how you have the background darkened, it makes the dog stand out more. Cute dog, by the way. I hope this helps. |
It does. and the photo was VERY VERY Blue when it started out. Had to use Black/White spots to get things back to more 'natural' color. It does still have some blue hue to it. I agree.
Thanks.
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10/18/2006 11:22:22 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by biteme:
Originally posted by idnic:
DPC voters love a simple image with simple composition. |
Oooh that's it! :D |
LOL Hann, You say that like I just gave away some deep dark secret :P |
well, didn't you?
;-) |
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10/18/2006 11:23:49 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by jfwolpert:
to be honest i dont vote as high on shots that have:
a dog or a cat
a piece of computer equiment
a piece of camera equipment
and it looks like an on camera flash which was a bit harsh |
I'm the same way on cats and am already starting to build up some cliche biases which I hope I can keep under control. I appreciate the honest feedback as photos are very subjective and I knew going with a pet would be voter friendly to those pro-pets and not voter friendly to those who are not pet people.
It was a hot shoe TTL flash. Just got it about 2 weeks ago and I'm trying to learn lighting. I hear about off-board flash units (not sure if that is the right terminology), but I just figure I need to perfect one before I should tackle something more complicated. Obviously I still have a ways to go with the camera flash training.
Good feedback though. Thanks.
Message edited by author 2006-10-18 11:24:54.
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10/18/2006 11:28:54 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by dallasdux:
... It does. and the photo was VERY VERY Blue when it started out. Had to use Black/White spots to get things back to more 'natural' color. ... |
Are you shooting in RAW mode? A fairly straightforward white balance (WB) adjustment would have taken care of most of the color cast. |
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10/18/2006 11:34:35 AM · #14 |
Probably should have gone with Outdoors background.
here are a few of the outtakes. Didn't really like the fluffy ducky in the yard. The next one is how blue things really got before I cleaned it up and the third was if I cut on other available lighting in the room which yielded a yellowish/greenish tint.
Went with the white towels under her to cover a buzy blue bedspread.
  
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10/18/2006 11:35:03 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by dallasdux:
... It does. and the photo was VERY VERY Blue when it started out. Had to use Black/White spots to get things back to more 'natural' color. ... |
Are you shooting in RAW mode? A fairly straightforward white balance (WB) adjustment would have taken care of most of the color cast. |
No, I'm only shooting in JPEG at this point as I have no experience with post processing and am just playing with Corel Paint Shop Pro X. Figure if I get some of the basics there, I can start manipulating RAW images.
Good point. I think I had taken it off auto-white balance and perhaps used Tungsten.
Perhaps I should be shooting RAW and just learn from there.
Message edited by author 2006-10-18 11:36:32.
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10/18/2006 11:40:32 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by dallasdux:
... Perhaps I should be shooting RAW and just learn from there. |
Once you do you'll never go back, except maybe back to the store to buy more hard drive space! :D |
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10/18/2006 11:41:14 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by rtscribbs02:
Maybe if you had a yellow or orange bandana around the dog's neck instead-to go with the ducks' colors. |
I had hoped the red would provide a good contrast against the yellow ducks. One had a red bill and the other an orange. Needed the bandana to show the domestication effect of the dog, but I guess simply laying on the bed does that as well.
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10/18/2006 12:07:19 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by dallasdux:
... Perhaps I should be shooting RAW and just learn from there. |
Once you do you'll never go back, except maybe back to the store to buy more hard drive space! :D |
Just dropped in a new harddrive for that specific purpose. Now I just need to see if my Pentax editing software is any good for processing RAW or if I need a 3rd party product. I think my Paint Shop Pro will do it, but haven't researched it yet.
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10/18/2006 12:16:03 PM · #19 |
Quick and dirty color-neutralized, gothic glow version...
It has many flaws, but nothing more time couldn't deal with.
R. |
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10/18/2006 12:17:32 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Quick and dirty color-neutralized, gothic glow version...
It has many flaws, but nothing more time couldn't deal with.
R. |
Wow, thanks. I just need to learn or more practice at the post-processing techniques.
I appreciate it.
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10/18/2006 12:23:14 PM · #21 |
| If the ducky was in the dogs mouth...it might have worked better.. |
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10/18/2006 12:44:35 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
If the ducky was in the dogs mouth...it might have worked better.. |
Agreed. There was another entry that scored around 100th place that had a "dognapped" theme of the duck in the mouth.
lol. Actually tried to get her to hold it. Those ducks belong to a 3yr old and the dog has been yelled at one too many times for taking things that are not hers so everytime I got it there and told her to "stay", she would drop it as soon as I'd turn my back. Fear of being scolded I guess.
Back to doggie school! lol.
Message edited by author 2006-10-18 12:45:20.
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10/18/2006 12:46:51 PM · #23 |
The picture is boring!
Sorry if I sound harsh, I'm not meaning to be, but there isn't any "wow" factor at all in the picture.
even the ones you have taken outside are just a dog and some rubber ducks.
It's a good looking dog, but it's nothing "special" to anyone who doesn't know the dog.
I agree with thesaj in that if the duck was in the mouth it would probably improve it.
And of course this is just my own opinion and I don't know what I'm talking about half of the time.
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10/18/2006 12:49:53 PM · #24 |
It looks like you might have been shooting with an "Incandescent" white balance outside..?
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10/18/2006 12:56:52 PM · #25 |
Lose the dog - it does nothing for the image.
The challenge is about the duck and that huge pink/red scarfe just takes the centre stage.
I guess a closeup of the dog savaging the duck would have more 'action' appeal. How about the dog jumping to catch the duck ....
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