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10/08/2006 11:40:01 AM · #1 |
Not to take away from any of the top shots in the challenges, because they are awesome and deserve it.
But why is it that after a challenge, there are 30-80 comments saying Congrats, you deserved to ribbon, etc. etc. and the rest of the photos are forgotten? Yeah, they deserved to ribbon, but why not help some of the others get that extra oomph.
Yes, one can always put in a "Why didn't this ribbon?" thread, but why should that have to happen? There are 3 ribbon winners and 10 top-10s that get a lot of the post-challenge comments..and a few hundred shots that get forgotten. Yes, this is a challenge site, but it's also a learning site and a fairly happy community.
I'm learning a lot here as you can tell if you looked through my portfolio and I'm not asking for comments on my challenge entries. But I think there are a lot of people that would benefit more from post-challenge comments.
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10/11/2006 09:37:25 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by cryingdragon:
Not to take away from any of the top shots in the challenges, because they are awesome and deserve it.
But why is it that after a challenge, there are 30-80 comments saying Congrats, you deserved to ribbon, etc. etc. and the rest of the photos are forgotten? Yeah, they deserved to ribbon, but why not help some of the others get that extra oomph.
Yes, one can always put in a "Why didn't this ribbon?" thread, but why should that have to happen? There are 3 ribbon winners and 10 top-10s that get a lot of the post-challenge comments..and a few hundred shots that get forgotten. Yes, this is a challenge site, but it's also a learning site and a fairly happy community.
I'm learning a lot here as you can tell if you looked through my portfolio and I'm not asking for comments on my challenge entries. But I think there are a lot of people that would benefit more from post-challenge comments. |
Bump up as I agree with you. For us photography beginners, a few technical comments would be appreciated. The top photos do warrant a "Good Job" comment, but for those that people decide to vote low (below a 5), a few pointers about how to improve the shot would go a long way.
I don't know if they are scared of conflict or what, but if you put something out there for the masses to vote on, you need to be prepared with some "thick skin" to handle the critique. The problem, there is no critique.
Unfortunately, many voters prefer the "Drive-By". Kill a photo with a low score (even if warranted), but don't say a word about it and move on. It's a shame.
Message edited by author 2006-10-11 09:38:04.
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10/11/2006 09:48:02 AM · #3 |
| I tend to go back and say awww or underrated. etc. to shots that i sscored high but didnt place high. as far as explaining why a low scoring photo scored low after the challenge it usually seems pointless to tell people my critical thoughts unless they ask because You'd think by the end of voting they'd have heard it. when i see a glaring problem with a photo during the challenge or i score it under a 5 i try to tell them why already so i think post challenge critiques just seem mean. I dont want people to think i'm badgering them they probably feel bad enough. we all knwo what it feels like to get a 4. hth |
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10/11/2006 10:15:42 AM · #4 |
| I hope this isn't a selfish thought, but do soooo many offer congrats, to just get noticed in the limelight, perhaps? ...noticed by others and the artist-du-jour. |
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10/11/2006 10:20:46 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by justamistere:
I hope this isn't a selfish thought, but do soooo many offer congrats, to just get noticed in the limelight, perhaps? ...noticed by others and the artist-du-jour. |
I don't congratulate every ribbon winner - I do congratulate those I've come to "know" who get that first ribbon, or those who have a shot of which I was particularly fond. I also try to go back and comment on those shots I rather liked that didn't score as well as I'd thought.
A good idea might be to comment on those at the end of the line, but if I were to do that, I'd check first to see if they mark comments as "Helpful" - otherwise I have no idea whether or not they even read them. |
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10/11/2006 10:33:32 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by cryingdragon:
... I think there are a lot of people that would benefit more from post-challenge comments. |
Hi Mike.
Many post-challenge comments are made to the ribboning shots as a pat-on-the-back, you did well, kind of thing. You've noticed they aren't (for the most part) a critique or feedback type of comment. For example, Jimmy ( SJCarter) just rec'd his first ribbon. Many of us have met Jimmy and he's a nice person - so why not toss him some well deserved accolades?
Crystal ( jaded_youth) made some valid points regarding post-challenge comments.
Generally, if feedback is still needed, a posting to the forums (well worded and non-confrontational) will usually generate enough comments to clarify for the photographer any positives/negatives of their challenge entry.
For many of us it's also a matter of priorities. Do you venture into the challenge that's completed and post more comments, or do you spend time voting and commenting on the active challenges? For others (I took a look at your recent comments) a better use of time is spent in commenting on the special events (30 day Self-Portaits, etc...) that are currently running on DPC.
In the end it's all good if you look for a way to find the positives of this site and utilize the learning assets available. :D |
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