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04/30/2003 01:58:50 PM · #1
I guess I just don't understand this challenge very well. A picture of glass doesn't seem that interesting. Does anyone have some example shots to prove me wrong? (I know, like stained glass in a church or something, but is there anything else?)
04/30/2003 02:04:09 PM · #2
Ask mcmurma! : )

04/30/2003 02:41:50 PM · #3
Stained glass in a church is arguably not permitted under the rules' 'artwork' section.

Ed
04/30/2003 03:00:24 PM · #4
I wouldn't bet on that.

Originally posted by e301:

Stained glass in a church is arguably not permitted under the rules' 'artwork' section.

Ed

04/30/2003 03:05:35 PM · #5
Originally posted by paganini:

I wouldn't bet on that.

Originally posted by e301:

Stained glass in a church is arguably not permitted under the rules' 'artwork' section.

Ed


what if i gave you 5:1 odds and a 10% bonus on your deposit?
04/30/2003 03:05:51 PM · #6
Originally posted by paganini:

I wouldn't bet on that.

Originally posted by e301:

Stained glass in a church is arguably not permitted under the rules' 'artwork' section.

Ed


The rest of the artwork statement is as follows.. "however creative depictions or interpretations are permissible. This includes, but is not limited to paintings, sculptures, photographs, drawings, and computer artwork"

Im sure I can think of quite a few ways to shoot a church window and include other elements to make it "a creative depiction".

Hope that helps if you decide to go that route for a photo. :)
04/30/2003 03:08:22 PM · #7
stained glass + light = artistic impression.
04/30/2003 03:08:46 PM · #8
alot of church window and church interiors have done well on this site. for example 2 of the top 3 shots in 'windows and doors'.


04/30/2003 03:12:33 PM · #9
Don't know that it proves you wrong or anything, but here are a couple I like.



04/30/2003 03:14:48 PM · #10
Love the red wine shot Gordon, masterful as usual. I can picture it on a wall at a prestigous winery.
04/30/2003 03:18:39 PM · #11
gordon those are awful ! particularly the first one.

now if i could only take a pic that "bad" ;D ....

04/30/2003 03:31:11 PM · #12
Originally posted by magnetic9999:

gordon those are awful ! particularly the first one.

now if i could only take a pic that "bad" ;D ....



well, you could aim for the dizzy heights of the early version of the
first one if you like. Took me about a week worth of experimentation to get from here to that other one....
04/30/2003 06:21:56 PM · #13
Exactly. I mean, any architect could consider his/her building as "artwork", right? The design is probably copyrighted but we see people photogrpahing bulidings all the time, does it disqualify them? :) think not.

Heck, most wineglasses are PROBABLY copyrighted one way or another, or patented, or some of those BS regulations.

Originally posted by scab-lab:

Originally posted by paganini:

I wouldn't bet on that.

Originally posted by e301:

Stained glass in a church is arguably not permitted under the rules' 'artwork' section.

Ed


The rest of the artwork statement is as follows.. "however creative depictions or interpretations are permissible. This includes, but is not limited to paintings, sculptures, photographs, drawings, and computer artwork"

Im sure I can think of quite a few ways to shoot a church window and include other elements to make it "a creative depiction".

Hope that helps if you decide to go that route for a photo. :)

04/30/2003 06:26:08 PM · #14
Here's something:

Your lenses are made of glass (well, some are made of Flourite i guess, for the ultra low dispersion lenses) or a bunch of glass.

Soooo, if you shoot through it, doesn't that mean you're using GLASS anyway? :) Heck, you can get LENS flares, which would show that you are indeed using glass to get the photos :)

A far more interesting challenge would be to take any photo you want WITHOUT using glass.
04/30/2003 06:31:57 PM · #15
oooh pinhole cameras!

Not sure how we'd do THAT on digital! ROFL!
04/30/2003 11:45:58 PM · #16
Originally posted by Kavey:

oooh pinhole cameras!

Not sure how we'd do THAT on digital! ROFL!


Get a DSLR, laser cut a hole in a lens cap, shoot away.

for directions

or ask scab-lab...
04/30/2003 11:58:57 PM · #17
That's great. Now for a digital camera obscura...
05/01/2003 12:51:40 AM · #18
I believe you can actually buy one that would be better than a home made one (smaller hole, custom drilled, etc.).... i saw it on Outdoor PHotographer magazine once.....

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Kavey:

oooh pinhole cameras!

Not sure how we'd do THAT on digital! ROFL!


Get a DSLR, laser cut a hole in a lens cap, shoot away.

for directions

or ask scab-lab...
05/01/2003 12:56:33 AM · #19
What is the "ideal" diameter for the pinhole? I'm thinking of cheating by running a piece of imagesetter film with just a tiny clear spot...
05/01/2003 06:27:53 AM · #20
Originally posted by GeneralE:

What is the "ideal" diameter for the pinhole? I'm thinking of cheating by running a piece of imagesetter film with just a tiny clear spot...


Hi General. here is a link to a site with some pinhole calculators and other info. Mr. Pinhole Site

You can buy premade pinhole bodycaps for DSLR's, but dont forget, since there is a hole in it, you can introduce dirt onto your cameras sensor. I have a Loreo Lens in a Cap. It is simple looking bodycap with a plastic lens in it. It stops down to F64 and kinda simulates a pinhole camera without the worry of letting dust into the camera. Here is the link for Loreo
05/01/2003 07:47:36 AM · #21
lol...
05/01/2003 10:18:10 AM · #22
Originally posted by scab-lab:

Hi General. here is a link to a site with some pinhole calculators and other info. Mr. Pinhole Site

Thank you -- pretty amazing site...
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