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04/30/2003 04:49:53 PM · #26 |
My 2 cents...
It ain't all that broke... If we think of it as an outlet for people that want to do more in-depth critiques to be assigned random shots, then it's working wonderfully.
If there was to be a change, I would make it so anyone that wanted a photo to critique could choose one... Not just those officially in the "CritClub"... To me, being assigned the photo is the service... Not getting the comment.
Just a thought.
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04/30/2003 04:57:17 PM · #27 |
You know .. Just thinking out loud ... What if instead of a checkbox to request critique, make it a slightly more active process. For example:
After the challenge, you have to post a request for critique in a forum thread. At that time, you put details about your shot and thought process in like Gordon was saying (I second that - I hate pulling up a shot for CC and something about it fills me with questions, but there's absolutely nothing there. That's a little counter-productive for everyone).
Then, someone can volunteer to do the crit - or not - nothing is guaranteed and no one should have to be made to feel bad if some pics don't get crit'ed.
I guarantee this will result in fewer crits to do as well because it will require a little more effort on the part of the submitter than just checking a box under their picture.
I'd be willing to try something like that - I also prefer the idea that it be more like a dialog than like a faceless 'service'. Because in truth, one of the things I value most that I get from this site is the communication :).
Any thoughts?
Message edited by author 2003-04-30 16:57:57.
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04/30/2003 04:59:25 PM · #28 |
To make it clearer to new arrivals that ticking the box doesn't guarantee a critique you could get a link put next to the tickbox to the write up that you (John) did a while back, either on a seperate page or just a 'see this thread' link.
I still love the critiques I get, no matter how infrequent. They're always great quality and obviously have a lot of thought put into them. Thank you to all the CC members. |
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04/30/2003 07:47:09 PM · #29 |
I like Magnetic9999's idea, who fused his ideas with Gordon's. Including a link to a Critique Request form with some simple information to fill in, which could be as basic as "What were you trying to do with this photo?" may be helpful, but more work for our overworked site administrators.
Perhaps all we need to do at the present is explain how critiques work when people sign up, and email all members and users with an explanatory message. It is slightly dismaying when you are given a photo to critique and the photog has a statement like the one he quoted: "it was a last minute shot, but i wanted to put something up..." I'd just like to see that people who seriously want critiques have more of a chance to get them over people who are just clicking the box with a "what the hey" attitude.
David
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04/30/2003 07:48:35 PM · #30 |
Dear Ed,
Your image was the first I pulled up tonight.
Flora.
Irony.
:)
M
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05/01/2003 02:18:39 AM · #31 |
LOL - amazing the impact a little moan can have :-)
Thanks for that mavrik - and to sparky mark too.
Ed
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05/01/2003 10:33:54 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by dsidwell:
... It is slightly dismaying when you are given a photo to critique and the photog has a statement like the one he quoted: "it was a last minute shot, but i wanted to put something up..."
David |
I've heard more than one person here say that their "last-minute inspiration" turned out to be their best-ranking photo ever. At least in the case you describe they give you the info to work with, and your evaluation can take the circumstances and context into account, the same as you would some describing an elaborate set-up and days of work. The mere fact of a submission being last-minute shouldn't keep you from evaluating the image on its merits, and doesn't mean the photographer isn't serious.
But if you really think the person put in no effort, I think you can respond in kind, as in "I think your lack of preparation and time for post-processing really affect the quality of your image..." and move on. |
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05/01/2003 03:01:19 PM · #33 |
| really, General? I've been so tempted to write things like that before, but how do I know that a bad shot isn't really this person's serious effort at taking a good photo? I often am assigned shots with scores in the 4s where I don't think the photographer could've really seriously thought they were submitting the best shot they could. |
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