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09/14/2006 12:07:17 AM · #1 |
how about an "implied nudity" challenge.
no actual "no no zones", but it's implied they're nude. Silhouettes, shadow-work, lots of different combinations are possible.
just an idea :) |
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09/14/2006 10:05:47 PM · #2 |
| Might be cool, but people would "cheat." ROFL |
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09/14/2006 10:38:01 PM · #3 |
Challenge would have to have special size to 1024 x768 for me !!!!
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Might be cool, but people would "cheat." ROFL |
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09/14/2006 10:39:04 PM · #4 |
kinda like this shot? where the shirt tie and bra on the stool suggest nudity from the waist up? sounds like an interesting challenge idea. |
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09/15/2006 12:08:37 AM · #5 |
Or like this one.
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09/15/2006 01:21:57 AM · #6 |
A couple from the top 5 of the Off-Screen Expectation challenge from a couple of years ago. I think they fit the bill quite well.
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David
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09/15/2006 05:03:53 AM · #7 |
Was I naked or not? Well, there was some water in the bath. ;>þ
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09/15/2006 05:04:45 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Was I naked or not? Well, there was some water in the bath. ;>þ
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I think it best if you let that be left up to our imagination, dont you? ;-)
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09/15/2006 07:06:03 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
kinda like this shot? where the shirt tie and bra on the stool suggest nudity from the waist up? sounds like an interesting challenge idea. |
Crystal,
I would expect this shot to score in the mid-range or lower in such a challenge because the implication isn't too strong here while the subject continues to wear pants. Contrast this with
In the shot you referenced the subject that we see only has her shoes off which doesn't necessarily lead to losing the pants while in the other shot the subject has her bra off and her pants unzipped. Neither shot shows anything that could easily be construed as racy material but I just think that the implied nudity is hinted at more by the 2nd image referenced and would tend to score higher in a challenge like this. I only point this out because both images have exactly the same amount of clothes on the body.
By-the-by, I'm interested to see what creative ways people come up with to imply nudity without showing any "bits". This sounds like it'd be a cool challenge for people's creativity.
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09/15/2006 07:14:07 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
kinda like this shot? where the shirt tie and bra on the stool suggest nudity from the waist up? sounds like an interesting challenge idea. |
Crystal,
I would expect this shot to score in the mid-range or lower in such a challenge because the implication isn't too strong here while the subject continues to wear pants. Contrast this with
In the shot you referenced the subject that we see only has her shoes off which doesn't necessarily lead to losing the pants while in the other shot the subject has her bra off and her pants unzipped. Neither shot shows anything that could easily be construed as racy material but I just think that the implied nudity is hinted at more by the 2nd image referenced and would tend to score higher in a challenge like this. I only point this out because both images have exactly the same amount of clothes on the body.
By-the-by, I'm interested to see what creative ways people come up with to imply nudity without showing any "bits". This sounds like it'd be a cool challenge for people's creativity. |
yeah after seeing the others posted I figured that out. I thought implied nudity would be fun if it was only implied not actual nudity alluding to more. if that makes sense. either way cool ides. |
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09/15/2006 03:52:35 PM · #11 |
i agree. crystal, i would give your shot a 10, but i think the others out there that do not "get it" or spend time on a vote would vote lower, or mid range. great shot though. i love it :)
i really hope this one works. here's some of what i was thinking about:
(w/ respect to their owners: )
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09/15/2006 04:12:47 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Was I naked or not? Well, there was some water in the bath. ;>þ
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I think it best if you let that be left up to our imagination, dont you? ;-) |
sorry, but my imagination wants no part of that, thankyouverymuch...
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09/15/2006 04:33:02 PM · #13 |
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09/15/2006 04:38:25 PM · #14 |
The first and third one seem, to me, to be actually nude, and just certain things are not shown.. the middle one fits my idea of "implied" nudity better. But it's kind of a tricky thing to define, I think! |
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09/15/2006 05:01:51 PM · #15 |
Something like this might work....
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09/15/2006 05:03:15 PM · #16 |
yeah, i see. the first one, i really like because the shadows imply the nudity, w/ no showing. i could be wrong.
i really think this could take off really well. |
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09/15/2006 05:16:28 PM · #17 |
| I love this suggestion except for the implied part. |
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09/16/2006 04:37:47 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I love this suggestion except for the implied part. |
ROFL. Good answer.
This type of challenge fits the lighting and body studies I've been doing lately. I'd be interested to see the ideas others have on the topic.
Speaking more to  klstover's comment about nude vs. implied I wonder how others take this. For most people that I've worked with in modeling "implied" simply means nipples, vaginal lips and/or penis are not visible in the shot; the subject may be totally disrobed and may use anything to prevent viewing of these "taboo" areas but these are considered implied from my recent experiences. Of course implieds can be done through any number of means including some clothing, cloth, fabric, hands, whathaveyou. Without any discussion beforehand I would have tended to vote lower on shots where the subject had any clothing on them visible unless the strong message of the photo was that it was in the process of being removed. How do others view this term "implied nudity"?
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09/16/2006 05:35:29 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:
Originally posted by yanko:
I love this suggestion except for the implied part. |
ROFL. Good answer.
This type of challenge fits the lighting and body studies I've been doing lately. I'd be interested to see the ideas others have on the topic.
Speaking more to klstover's comment about nude vs. implied I wonder how others take this. For most people that I've worked with in modeling "implied" simply means nipples, vaginal lips and/or penis are not visible in the shot; the subject may be totally disrobed and may use anything to prevent viewing of these "taboo" areas but these are considered implied from my recent experiences. Of course implieds can be done through any number of means including some clothing, cloth, fabric, hands, whathaveyou. Without any discussion beforehand I would have tended to vote lower on shots where the subject had any clothing on them visible unless the strong message of the photo was that it was in the process of being removed. How do others view this term "implied nudity"? |
A tribute at helmut newton? |
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09/16/2006 07:05:06 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:
... Speaking more to klstover's comment about nude vs. implied I wonder how others take this. For most people that I've worked with in modeling "implied" simply means nipples, vaginal lips and/or penis are not visible in the shot; the subject may be totally disrobed and may use anything to prevent viewing of these "taboo" areas but these are considered implied from my recent experiences. Of course implieds can be done through any number of means including some clothing, cloth, fabric, hands, whathaveyou. Without any discussion beforehand I would have tended to vote lower on shots where the subject had any clothing on them visible unless the strong message of the photo was that it was in the process of being removed. How do others view this term "implied nudity"? |
As I see it, this topic has two sources of impact for the photographer to connect with the viewer with. The nudity aspect has the more immediate impact, but it's a static impact requiring little from the viewer than to be hit by it. The implication however draws the viewer in, demands participation -- for without the viewers participation the implication fails to provide an impact.
To directly answer your question, yes images such as these imply nudity, but the implication is shallow and doesn't demand much participation from the viewer.
Images such as these nail this topic to me. By offering just enough of the 'nudity' impact to get the viewer's attention, while inviting (requiring?) much greater participation with the implication.
David
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09/16/2006 07:19:44 AM · #21 |
i agree with david. subtlety is the idea here. less is more. there's the old story about a stripper who came onstage, walked slinkily about the stage to the music, slowly peeled off only her gloves, threw them to the audience, and slowly walked offstage. the crowd went wild. why? because they had undressed her in their minds, and imagination is much more powerful than fact.
when a nude is mainly covered then we can each supply the details, as we would like. we all like different things in a body. the implication of nudity implies a willingness to be nude (in this instance), and a privacy meant for each viewer.
one can go into all the semiotics and gender politics here, but, why bother? nudes are great, of either sex, for either sex, and the subtler the better, i think.
Message edited by author 2006-09-16 07:30:56.
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09/16/2006 07:34:20 AM · #22 |
i think that an implied nudity challenge would be cool. as long as it was IMPLIED. some of these images are nudity, no implication at all ...
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10/04/2006 05:10:50 PM · #23 |
anyone else have any other suggestions for this challenge idea? i think it would make for a great addition, especially with the creative minds that the community has come up w/ in the past.
yay for implied nudity :) |
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10/04/2006 05:17:54 PM · #24 |
Oh, that'd be fun :)
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10/14/2006 12:37:34 PM · #25 |
ooooh, nice one. so many possibilities.
i think w/ a lot of others saying this one is my favorite...
all are great ideas. :)
now, just have to find a girl that would do something like this, and get the challenge going;) |
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