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09/21/2002 01:31:00 PM · #1 |
| Questions for you E-20 owners; you can find them on the WEB anywhere from $1149.00 all the way up to $1997.00. I live in the USA and I heard that some places are selling Gray Market cameras. So, how much should I pay for the E-20, what is a Gray Market camera and do you find the top shutter speed of 1/640 to be a problem? Any help you can give me will be appreciated. Thanks,rcrawford Some of my stuff |
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09/21/2002 02:20:08 PM · #2 |
You can have a faster 'shutter speed.' But it's fake...up to 1/8000, I think.
I got an e20 a couple of months ago...I'm fairly disappointed with it. I'd look into the Nikon D100 or D1X if I had it to do all over again. Major issues...lag, noise, and horrible auto-focus in low light. Program mode is useless. It's got a steep learning curve and even when you figure it out (or maybe I haven't :P), the camera still yields results that aren't up to snuff.
I got mine at circuit city for about $1800, I think. Didn't want to deal with the hassle of internet purchase or gray market.
Good luck!
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09/21/2002 02:37:44 PM · #3 |
| Gray market are cameras not designated for the United States. They are not covered by any Olympus warranty and I have heard that the quality is inferior. They are much cheaper though. I don't think I would get a gray market camera myself. |
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09/21/2002 03:27:45 PM · #4 |
Regarding the gray market, ask the vendor straight-out what their selling.
Regarding the camera's limitations. I use the E-10, so does the photographer on this site called irae. Karen Bryan on this site uses the E-20.
At least 3 of the pics in the top 10 (maybe top 12 now) site favorite photos were shot with E-10 or 20 (Wonder in Wonderland, Panache, and Dang)
I would recommend looking at our stuff and seeing what's possible, and then going from there.
Mine is here Kollin's Galleryand here Kollin's Attempt to have a Commercial Site with E10
Best of luck, and let me know if you have any questions.
Kollin |
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09/21/2002 03:37:13 PM · #5 |
Roger,
Check out the Sony F707 also, and stay away from Broadway Photo. They are horrible. Ask any vendors if the camera has a US warranty, and comes with all the software and accessories. If the price is really low, there is a scam. Most of the vendors in popular photography are pretty good. I have used B&H and was happy.
All the reviews I have read of the E-20 say it is a good camera. I would not go to a Digital SLR unless you already have a 35mm that uses the same lenses.
Lisa,
What do you not like about the images you are getting?
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09/21/2002 03:42:05 PM · #6 |
Most of the E10 and E20 images that I have seen are exceptional. I have never seen image quality issues with either of those cameras...
These don't have interchangeable lenses, so that is not an issue... |
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09/21/2002 03:44:50 PM · #7 |
Zeis,
The thing that bothers me the most is the graininess...especially in low light conditions. Got the solution...other than adding light? :P
TIA!
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09/21/2002 03:48:26 PM · #8 |
All, Thanks for the replies. Zeissman, I know that some of the best photos on this site have been taken with the Sony F707 but I don’t know if I like the EVF. I played with one at the store and I just couldn’t see the detail like I can with my Pentax K1000 or the E-20. I do like the price and the optical zoom of the F707 though. How about it F707 users; do you like the EVF? Thanks, rcrawford
Originally posted by Zeissman:
Roger,
Check out the Sony F707 also, and stay away from Broadway Photo. They are horrible. Ask any vendors if the camera has a US warranty, and comes with all the software and accessories. If the price is really low, there is a scam. Most of the vendors in popular photography are pretty good. I have used B&H and was happy.
All the reviews I have read of the E-20 say it is a good camera. I would not go to a Digital SLR unless you already have a 35mm that uses the same lenses.
Lisa,
What do you not like about the images you are getting?
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09/21/2002 03:48:31 PM · #9 |
Most digital cameras have problems with low light. Do you change the ISO setting? That causes grain too. Kollin may have some tips for you, but I know my Sony gets pretty grainy at ISO 400.
Scanner have a problem with shadow detail also, and pixalate or get grain, it is just a characteristic of the capture device. You may want to email some of the people that have done the night shots.
Originally posted by Lisa:
Zeis,
The thing that bothers me the most is the graininess...especially in low light conditions. Got the solution...other than adding light? :P
TIA!
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09/21/2002 03:49:58 PM · #10 |
| Doesn't the F707 have an LCD also? |
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09/21/2002 03:55:18 PM · #11 |
I'm sure it does but if it is like the one on my C3000 then it is almost useless outside in bright sun.Originally posted by Zeissman:
Doesn't the F707 have an LCD also?
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09/21/2002 04:50:38 PM · #12 |
Major issues...lag, noise, and horrible auto-focus in low light. Program mode is useless. It's got a steep learning curve and even when you figure it out (or maybe I haven't :P), the camera still yields results that aren't up to snuff.[/i]
I think you need a firmware upgrade (contact Olympus and tell them about the issues). I believe what you're describing was mentioned often about early generation E-10's and E-20's so I think most of the stuff is fixed in one of the newer firmwares. Good luck
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09/21/2002 07:00:33 PM · #13 |
| //www.resellerratings.com/index.html is a good place to check out online vendors. I ordered my camera online from a good vendor and then pricematched using American Express to get back a couple hundred bucks. |
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09/21/2002 07:05:41 PM · #14 |
I only noticed the "lag" when shooting a model who was energetic and thought moving around alot was a requirement (like on TV). I am not a model/fashion photographer, so I didn't buy the E-20 with the intention for it to perform well in that area. The lag is about a ... dunno, didn't time it... 10 second or so write time when the camera buffers 4 or so images... Once an image or two writes to the card, it frees up space in the buffer again. I don't use my camera in this way on an ordinary basis, so it is not generally a problem.
Autofocus in low light/dark shooting... yes. this is a problem. Again... not much of that going on in my kind of shooting, so I just have to watch for it when the situation arises.
I've been generally happy with it...
There are many kinds of cameras on the market because there are many kinds of photographers with different needs. It is difficult to recommend a camera without knowing your needs.
As far as price goes,... Yes, I have recently seen it for close to US$1000., but not sure if that came with anything else. May have. I bought my "kit" for US$1600. It was the going price this summer - even on the internet. A month later, I could have save up to US$200, but I went to the camera store to buy it where they allowed me several "tire kicks" :-)
I would say investigate, investigate, investigate.
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