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08/26/2006 04:46:21 PM · #101
Kavey.... a bit brutal...but honest.

The more I think about it I'm leaning toward doing this in segments...pure interview in one segment and commentary in another. I might consider dropping the commentary all together. I think EVERYONE is interested in the interview portion and I don't think anyone is interested in ONLY the commentary so if I was going to split them it might not make sense to keep the commentary portion.

To clarify this point. If I split them up in two, would anyone really listen to just the commentary file? Or would people quickly just skip to the Interview and call it good?

Message edited by author 2006-08-26 16:54:27.
08/26/2006 04:59:34 PM · #102
I enjoyed the commentary of current ribbon winners. (Although I didn't like the treatment of 'Fresh Peas on Platter')

I'd say if you kept each segment to 10 minutes people would listen to both the commentary and interview in one sitting. (or 5 minutes + 15 minutes or whatever)
08/26/2006 05:42:39 PM · #103
Just finished the podcast! I think what you are doing is really great. I did have some thoughts for you to take with a grain of salt:

1. Sherry (sp?) is not the best choice for a regular co-host. Clearly, you have decent banter and rapport with her, but maybe better place for her to be is on a panel of Experienced Pro Photographer, Average Joe Photographer, and DPC Never Entered.

2. Music - lead-ins are neat but you need other songs.

3. Re-cap of challenge entries: This should be separate, I think. I got a bit bored here because I already know who won, I'm not as interested in what you or Sherry think about the shot as the voters have already spoken. (Someone gave a good idea in the forums to talk about an underrated entry, too.) If I was interested in knowing more about the photographer, I've already clicked on it. If you keep doing this part, include some interesting tidbit from research you've done - tell something that an average clicker wouldn't necessarily find out, like if it was posted on another photography site and what comments it got there etc. A quick PM to the ribbon winners and they'll probably tell you what their family and friends said about the shot, or where else on the 'net it appears. You don't have to interview each ribbon winner, just quote from an e-mail. Additionally, I think you should risk spontaneity for research. When people already know something that you are just looking up it detracts from host credibility. Right now you've got a conversational feel - I think more preparation and research would make the interviews and recaps really pop. Think "the rest of the story."

4. Re: target audience: Definitely should gear future shows more towards current users rather than new victims. I think on one hand it's the vocal people in the forum, and on the other hand it's the people who are more active in the challenges and just want to know the gist of what the forums say about the challenge interpretation without reading pages and pages. The forum feedback you've already gotten suggest it's the DPC addicts who are most interested in the podcast. New people who've never been to the site aren't going to be interested in an audio discussion of a visual medium.

5. The best part of the 3rd podcast was the interview with Ben. It was v. interesting to hear how Site Council works and valuable information was dispensed. The Larus interview was awesome for the same reason - you really got insight into his personality which was quite fun. Naturally, dead sexy foreign accents aren't hurting a thing. Try an Irish guy, pretty please. :)

6. Content/Length: 20 minutes, max. I'd give 5 minutes to recap winners/upcoming challenges, 10 minutes to interview, and 5 minutes to advertising upcoming segement and listener feedback. One surefire way to keep people listening and giving feedback is the possibility of them getting quoted.

7. New idea: set up a phone number or mailbox for listener feedback, where they can write in or call in and leave a message (so you don't have to be on-line with them). To quote Bill O'Reilly: Pithy comments only! Let people compete for the chance to be on your show. Or, you could play a game: "What would XUser say about Y Subject?"

8. At some point you will have to pick a direction between a news format (challenge re-caps, etc.) which is going to have to be timely in scope, and an interview format which is less strict about time. Right now it's a fine balance; listener feedback will help you make the decision.

9. I think it would be great if you also spent some time interviewing point/counterpoint perspectives on issues facing DPC. Post the Rikki interview and allow people to write in or call in with responses to it, now that there is the benefit of hindsight. Two segments: Rikki: The Interview and Rikki: The Aftermath.

10. What this podcast needs to keep old-timers and fanatics listening is someone very knowledgable about both photography and DPC forums (a reader even, not just a poster). I'd consider having a guest co-host each week who meets this criteria. Not necessarily DPC-elite, but at least someone with a big personality.

Now, I hope this doesn't dishearten you in any way. I LOVE the whole podcast idea and think it's awesome what you've done so far. I see this as becoming a sister-act to DPC, like DPC Fanatics Chat room has been. Privately operated and maintained, but wholly for the people who just can't get enough of the site itself! I took the time to post today because I want to encourage you, not to disrespect your efforts. :)

Keep up the good work!
08/26/2006 05:53:30 PM · #104
L2, your comments are extremely well received. Thanks so much for taking the time to write out a lengthy list of suggestions. I plan to implement several of your suggestions.

One thing I keep seeing is the need for me to hook up with a co-host that knows a lot about photography. I am an idiot and hobbiest at best so having two of us do the hosting doesn't provide a good balance. I'm seeing that what I need is a good strong photographer who knows editing like the back of their hand to pair up with me. I'm thinking about posting a request for a co-host to volenteer. The problem I have is I need someone who is personable, easy to listen to, and has a sense of humor. I hate being the bad guy and telling someone that they aren't funny enough, aren't friendly enough, etc. I'm not good at giving criticism. LOL Perhaps I need to have auditions and let the "audience" pick the co-host." I could ask people who are interested in co-hosting the show to provide a 2 minute mp3 file of them telling us about why we should pick them and we could post the contestants at our www.dpcpodcast.com site for people to listen to and vote on their favorite. What do you think?

Message edited by author 2006-08-26 17:55:10.
08/26/2006 06:04:42 PM · #105
Originally posted by lkn4truth:

I'm thinking about posting a request for a co-host to volenteer. The problem I have is I need someone who is personable, easy to listen to, and has a sense of humor.


You don't need auditions, you need to ask alfresco

He's completely insane, super smart, and may be the friendliest person I have ever had the pleasure to meet online.
08/26/2006 06:26:49 PM · #106
Originally posted by lkn4truth:

Kavey.... a bit brutal...but honest.

The more I think about it I'm leaning toward doing this in segments...pure interview in one segment and commentary in another. I might consider dropping the commentary all together. I think EVERYONE is interested in the interview portion and I don't think anyone is interested in ONLY the commentary so if I was going to split them it might not make sense to keep the commentary portion.

To clarify this point. If I split them up in two, would anyone really listen to just the commentary file? Or would people quickly just skip to the Interview and call it good?


Sorry, didn't mean it to be brutal but figured you were asking for honest opinions so that's what I gave. Thanks for not taking it personally coz that's definitely not how it was intended.

Personally, yeah, I would not listen to the commentary - just the interviews... don't know about other folks...
08/26/2006 06:32:49 PM · #107
Is there a place that we can nominate possible interviewees!! (Is there such a word?...lmao)
08/26/2006 06:36:39 PM · #108
Needs Video
08/26/2006 06:55:22 PM · #109
If we go to a video podcast someone else will need to do it. I'm not pretty nor do I have the software to do a vidcast.
08/26/2006 06:59:44 PM · #110
Originally posted by lkn4truth:

If we go to a video podcast someone else will need to do it. I'm not pretty nor do I have the software to do a vidcast.


hmmm, maybe joey lawrence would do it? I'm not really sure what value would be added with video here. It would be next to impossible to get a good quality video presentation of a interview without access to a communcations satellite. Unless one could have the interviewee tape themselves and you synch up the voice later...

Anyways, overall I think this current project is a worthy effort, LJ. Keep up the good work. I'm sure you'll get all the kinks worked out in due time.
08/26/2006 07:02:15 PM · #111
I'm intereviewing Joey tomorrow
08/26/2006 07:14:14 PM · #112
Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by lkn4truth:

I'm thinking about posting a request for a co-host to volenteer. The problem I have is I need someone who is personable, easy to listen to, and has a sense of humor.


You don't need auditions, you need to ask alfresco

He's completely insane, super smart, and may be the friendliest person I have ever had the pleasure to meet online.


Ditto!
08/27/2006 09:21:10 PM · #113
Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by lkn4truth:

I'm thinking about posting a request for a co-host to volenteer. The problem I have is I need someone who is personable, easy to listen to, and has a sense of humor.


You don't need auditions, you need to ask alfresco

He's completely insane, super smart, and may be the friendliest person I have ever had the pleasure to meet online.


This has to be one of, if not the, best compliments I've ever received; I'm humbled beyond words.

eta - thank you too, Erick. Wow. :)

Message edited by author 2006-08-27 21:42:04.
08/27/2006 09:25:14 PM · #114
alfresco...are you interested in trying to co-host the next podcast with me and see how it goes?
08/28/2006 01:09:50 AM · #115
Please say yes, alfresco! I'm in total agreement with wavelength about this.
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