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08/02/2006 12:56:07 PM · #626 |
I have been following this thread since it started. I did not know Steve but am still sending out my thoughts and prayers to his family and friends. I told my roommate about what is going on and how this online photography community has pulled together to help and he was hugely impressed. What a great bunch of people we have on this site.
I wish I lived in Arizona so there was something more I could do. As is, the only thing I can offer is I have posted a blog on my myspace page with a link to the page set up for Steve. I have forwarded it to all my friends and family regardless of where they are located with the information to forward on to anyone they know. You never know who might know someone in Arizona that might get the message. |
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08/02/2006 01:46:04 PM · #627 |
Still praying for Steve and his family.
About the credit/atm cards, and maybe the police already do this, but the cc companies can 'flag' the accounts, not necessarily make them so Steve can't use them if he needs to, but just that the merchant gets a code to contact the company before authorization is issued. They sometimes automatically do this when any unusual activity starts happening on the card. This happened to me on my honeymoon, we had to contact the card company because they had flagged it due to the sudden and frequent usage in Chicago.
I would think that it is likely Steve would eventually need to get gas, stop at a convenience store, food, something. |
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08/02/2006 02:08:48 PM · #628 |
to pcody - I understand what you are saying - naturally the family in oregon is grasping for answers - and yes we have all talked about possibe foul play - what you said makes sense - Somebody else may very well hock his stuff - hopefully Orion and Iva and everyone are covering
those bases - i haven't heard from Iva yet today
thanks again |
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08/02/2006 02:32:32 PM · #629 |
Originally posted by afrey90888:
to pcody - I understand what you are saying - naturally the family in oregon is grasping for answers - and yes we have all talked about possibe foul play - what you said makes sense - Somebody else may very well hock his stuff - hopefully Orion and Iva and everyone are covering
those bases - i haven't heard from Iva yet today
thanks again |
His house and it's contents are safer then my own. A police officer checks his regularly now.
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08/02/2006 02:33:10 PM · #630 |
I sorry to keep posting (and I hope I haven't missed a post about this). But I don't understand why an official search has not be coordinated by the mesa county PD and/or Park Service. It seems to me that family and friends are the only ones beating the streets and trails and the officials are just on a lookout.
Man this is getting serious. Almost two weeks missing, officials should be playing a major roll in the search for Steve. I know we don't want to think the worst but we have to search using every means, departments, and get as many searchers involved. We can pray for the best at the same time looking at every avenue. I'm still praying for his save return.
I have place a link on the WPL site as well.
SDW
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08/02/2006 02:40:43 PM · #631 |
Because as of right now there's no evidence of foul play, and there's no evidence that he's a danger to himself or others. :/
It's very frusterating, but there are limits to what law enfocement can do until it's proven that the individual is missing in a way that indicates a serious problem.
Keep in mind that there is a visual contact for an individual matching Steve's description on Sunday. That's only 3-4 days with no information. It is incredibly frusterasting though. :(
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08/02/2006 02:42:17 PM · #632 |
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
I don't understand why an official search has not be coordinated by the mesa county PD and/or Park Service. |
We have no clue where he is. The Phoenix is one of the largest cities in the country and half our state is forest land or indian reservation. He could be anywhere. Plus, being an adult, he has the right to be missing if he wants to so there is not a lot the police can do.
Forest service, state parks, and even border patrol are on the look out for him. People have been notified at all his favorite places to be on the look out for him. Also, if any law enforcement in the country runs his plates for any reason they will be notified to tell him to call home. Lets all hope Steve gets caught speeding!
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08/02/2006 02:55:53 PM · #633 |
Hi guys (Steve's sister in law),
I just talked to O, Steve's son, nothing new as of about an hour ago. Candy was right, Steve would cut off both arms before he would sell his camera and even though he is a non-violent individual, he would take out anyone trying to take his camera!!!!! :)
As far as I know and without divulging anything confidential, there have been no electronic transactions on any accounts, so that lead is dead. Steve works on contract, so he picks and chooses his work when or if he wants--no leads there either.
I'm in Oregon with the rest of the family, just waiting. Orion, his son, has a very pregnant wife in Oregon, too.
Thanks to everyone who is working on this case, your thoughts, prayers, good karma and foot work is appreciated more than you will every know.
Jennifer |
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08/02/2006 03:13:35 PM · #634 |
1. The green SUV. Yeah, it's finding a needle in a haystack, but he may have mentioned to the person(s) in the truck where he was going and for how long.
2. The man HAS to eat. Are there any restaurants, diners, deli's etc around/nearby. Yes, he COULD have bought supplies for a long haul, but that would mean withdrawing money (which you say was't done) or using his crdit card(s), which the records haven't been subpeoned yet.
Just some ideas.
Edited to add: He could be writing checks?
Message edited by author 2006-08-02 15:14:15. |
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08/02/2006 03:15:18 PM · #635 |
Originally posted by 2xmomma:
Hi guys (Steve's sister in law),
I just talked to O, Steve's son, nothing new as of about an hour ago. Candy was right, Steve would cut off both arms before he would sell his camera and even though he is a non-violent individual, he would take out anyone trying to take his camera!!!!! :)
As far as I know and without divulging anything confidential, there have been no electronic transactions on any accounts, so that lead is dead. Steve works on contract, so he picks and chooses his work when or if he wants--no leads there either.
I'm in Oregon with the rest of the family, just waiting. Orion, his son, has a very pregnant wife in Oregon, too.
Thanks to everyone who is working on this case, your thoughts, prayers, good karma and foot work is appreciated more than you will every know.
Jennifer |
Thanks 2xmomma. When's that lady due? Maybe Steve will have a new grandchid waiting for him when he returns.
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08/02/2006 03:21:08 PM · #636 |
| Have just read this disturbing news and wanted to simply say that I'm praying for a positive outcome to this. I only know Steve through his work and comments on this site, but as all photographers, I am just as inclined to go off on my own into the countryside with my camera. I can only hope that the combined efforts of the authorities, those who know Steve personally and the locals in the area he went missing in bring in good news soon. |
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08/02/2006 03:52:48 PM · #637 |
It was mentioned that he often goes out on photo trips into the desert. How long is he normally gone for? Beyond obviously not letting his family/friends know, is two weeks a 'normal' time away for him?
I have no idea the size of the region but I would imagine there are a limited number of places to pull off and sleep, or at least more popular places to sleep. Since there isnt much to photograph after dark, have those places been checked around 2am or so?
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08/02/2006 03:58:16 PM · #638 |
Originally posted by TrynityRose:
I have no idea the size of the region but I would imagine there are a limited number of places to pull off and sleep, or at least more popular places to sleep. |
The size is HUGE! Arizona is one big state and there are plenty of places to pull off and sleep. |
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08/02/2006 04:21:28 PM · #639 |
Originally posted by TrynityRose:
It was mentioned that he often goes out on photo trips into the desert. How long is he normally gone for? Beyond obviously not letting his family/friends know, is two weeks a 'normal' time away for him? |
This is highly abnormal. Steve will typically be gone only for a day, maybe overnight.
Originally posted by TrynityRose:
I have no idea the size of the region but I would imagine there are a limited number of places to pull off and sleep, or at least more popular places to sleep. Since there isnt much to photograph after dark, have those places been checked around 2am or so? |
As theWaz said, it is HUGE. We are talking about a city of 5 million people with a lot of open space, desert, etc.
After dark this time of year is especially poignant with the lightning shows we get from the monsoon storms.
Message edited by author 2006-08-02 16:21:48. |
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08/02/2006 04:36:31 PM · #640 |
| I don't know the gentleman but I find the news of his disappearance disturbing. So many people go missing everyday and it is wonderful when a community gathers together in effort to find them. I truly hope that he is found safe & sound. |
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08/02/2006 04:39:02 PM · #641 |
| I've learned an important lesson from all this, and I hope everyone else reading has, too. Should, for whatever reason, you decide to go "walkabout", let someone know. Then while you're gone, at least drop a postcard on occasion to let someone know you're still alive and well. |
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08/02/2006 04:49:00 PM · #642 |
Steve's grandson's EDD is September 27th, I could be off a day or two. Steve also has a 2 1/2 year old granddaughter, Kaylee, in Washington.
FYI, fliers are going out everywhere, electronically and physically.
We're all very worried. Please, please, please, if you go off on a day trip, let someone know where you are going!!!!!!!!!! |
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08/02/2006 05:01:54 PM · #643 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
I've learned an important lesson from all this, and I hope everyone else reading has, too. Should, for whatever reason, you decide to go "walkabout", let someone know. Then while you're gone, at least drop a postcard on occasion to let someone know you're still alive and well. |
Even more importantly : Shoot with a buddy. Now, search with a buddy.
Message edited by author 2006-08-02 17:02:45. |
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08/02/2006 05:29:22 PM · #644 |
Ok, looking at a map of the area, something jumps out to me. There's a TON of campgrounds inside a half days drive. Has anyone hit the state park service, or even the national park service and verified that he's not using a campsite as a base of operations? I often park at state/national parks and walk for part of the day. They typically take license plate numbers when registering at the entrance, and are typically very cheap. If he wants a relatively safe place to park his car while he's shooting, that's where I'd aim, and I don't know if police bulletins for missing persons are quickly communicated to them.
The state parks of AZ may have a computerized DB with that information and they might be able to look it up. Same with the National Park service. I donno, but that just jumped out at me when playing with the maps. All are places where you'd get great vantage points for monsoon lightning. Just a thought.
Let me know if there's anything I can do from CO to help. |
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08/02/2006 05:30:22 PM · #645 |
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08/02/2006 05:36:26 PM · #646 |
Originally posted by eckoe:
Ok, looking at a map of the area, something jumps out to me. There's a TON of campgrounds inside a half days drive. Has anyone hit the state park service, or even the national park service and verified that he's not using a campsite as a base of operations? I often park at state/national parks and walk for part of the day. They typically take license plate numbers when registering at the entrance, and are typically very cheap. If he wants a relatively safe place to park his car while he's shooting, that's where I'd aim, and I don't know if police bulletins for missing persons are quickly communicated to them.
The state parks of AZ may have a computerized DB with that information and they might be able to look it up. Same with the National Park service. I donno, but that just jumped out at me when playing with the maps. All are places where you'd get great vantage points for monsoon lightning. Just a thought.
Let me know if there's anything I can do from CO to help. |
I have been in daily communication with a WONDERFUL contact at State Parks and she has sent the alert out to the parks here in AZ. Also, there are a few state parks within an hour of Steve's home that he really likes, and they are all actively looking for Steve and/or his car.
It is a great suggestion though, thank you to everyone for continuing to bring up things we might have over looked. |
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08/02/2006 05:37:25 PM · #647 |
| Man, this is just killin' me. I can't even start to imagine what you, Steve's family and close friends are going through. I really am sincerely thinking and praying for you, and for Steve to show up, safe and sound. |
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08/02/2006 05:54:19 PM · #648 |
Awesome.
I still keep thinking of a scenario where he himself doesn't know that he's missing, and just keeps randomly dodging the search efforts.
The only other thing I can think of is what if he left the state, that he's wandered into any one of the 4 corners states. Or even headed further west into NV/CA, etc. Hopefully authorities are one step ahead of me on that, but he's had plenty of time to wander quite a ways. THough, harder to track down without knowing if his credit cards are being used.
I'd be out there helping look for him if it was just a bit closer. Even though I don't know him. But please let me know if there's anything I can do from here.
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08/02/2006 05:57:00 PM · #649 |
Could someone please give me the lat/lon where his car was seen by police on July 27.
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08/02/2006 06:00:54 PM · #650 |
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
Could someone please give me the lat/lon where his car was seen by police on July 27. |
I haven't seen lat/lon posted but LoudDog did post this:
"Originally posted by LoudDog:
Google Maps is the bomb! If it doesn't take you right to the spot try refreshing it. If it's still not the right spot zoom in a couple clicks and follow Mountain View Rd north. Just south of hwy 88 you'll see Jacob Waltz St.
This is the road and area his car was spoted on, Jacob Waltz St. Not sure exactly where, but we know it was east of mountain view. My best guess is it was in the clearing just west of the houses on the north side of the road opposite Nodak (the road heading north). Can't really tell from this view, but that is a nice clear flat area and one of the few places you can pull off the road and get out of the way. |
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