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09/09/2002 11:13:27 AM · #1 |
1. Does anyone have a link to a Negative Space tutorial?
2. Would someone please write a negative space tutorial when this challange is over?
3. What is the difference between Negative Space and Too Much Space? Effective negative space doesn't need to be expansive. It can be quite tight. |
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09/09/2002 11:17:54 AM · #2 |
Good question. I see most of the negative space examples being given have expansive space. Hmmm.
There was a photo shared quite a bit ago when this topic came up before, re: a man playing piano on stage, with light beaming down. It was dramatic. Anyone able to re-share that?
I have asked this before, too, Ellen. I get a lot of examples shown to me, but I would like to know more about it... e.g. how/where/when did it originate as a style, and are there guidelines? At what point is it no longer negative space, as Ellen says.
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09/09/2002 11:37:07 AM · #3 |
| A really interesting article (he talks about judging photos too) is here. |
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09/09/2002 11:41:15 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by kathleenm:
A really interesting article (he talks about judging photos too) is here.
thanks, kathleen! i was looking for this again!
This doesn't talk about the extremes though, does it matter?
Is the challenge expecting extremes?
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09/09/2002 11:44:57 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Karen Bryan:
thanks, kathleen! i was looking for this again!
This doesn't talk about the extremes though, does it matter?
Is the challenge expecting extremes?
I think we all know that it's not what the challenge is expecting, it's what the voters are expecting, and I, for one, have no idea what to expect this week. This is one of those "photographers" challenges, where I don't expect the average voter to really know what "negative space" means. It should be interesting.
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/9/2002 12:06:18 PM.
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09/09/2002 12:01:42 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by kathleenm:
A really interesting article (he talks about judging photos too) is here.
Thanks, I just read it and it's really interesting...
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09/09/2002 12:07:08 PM · #7 |
Just to help people out here i'm offering the interpretation of Negative Space as it was taught to me.
there are two kinds of space: 1. Positive space, 2. Negative space
Positive space is a space that is occupied. Kind of like a person standing in a crowd. You have your subject matter (i.e. the person you are focused on) and you have your positive space (i.e. the surroundings, in this case the other people in the crowd).
Negative space is the space around a subject which occupies NOTHING. You take that same person and stand them in the dark. You have your subject matter (the person) and you have your negative space (the nothingness around the person). Negative space can also be all white, but is less dramatic.
The purpose of negative space is to isolate the subject and give a sense of mood or possibly to emphasize loneliness. It is customary for images of negative space to mostly be blank. (i.e. you have a person at the outer edge of the frame looking into the darkness... it's GOOD that most of your picture contains nothing)
Hope it helps. |
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09/09/2002 12:09:36 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by kathleenm:
A really interesting article (he talks about judging photos too) is here.
This is an excellent tutorial and I've added a link to it in the tutorials section. Thanks for sharing this!
To everyone who hasn't done so (or hasn't done so recently) I highly recommend checking out the tutorials section as we've been adding links to new stuff periodically. Please also take a moment to rate the tutorials you read and help direct fellow challengers to useful content.
Enjoy!
-Terry
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09/09/2002 12:12:17 PM · #9 |
In general artistic terms, "negative space" is kind of a tool you can use to help you see an object the right way to draw it. It's used in "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" (a great book for learning to draw from scratch) to help you make the shift from interpreting what you see to just seeing it. You forget what the object is and look at the space around it, and draw the shape of that space instead of drawing the object.
So in addition to the photographic definition of negative space, to me this is a challenge where the shapes of things should have the utmost importance to the photo, as they are defined by the space around them. It would be great for sculptural shots or photos of people in odd poses, like dancers or gymnasts, etc. I think people who capture that kind of thing will score the highest for me.
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09/09/2002 12:26:57 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by BigSmiles:
Negative space is the space around a subject which occupies NOTHING. You take that same person and stand them in the dark. You have your subject matter (the person) and you have your negative space (the nothingness around the person). Negative space can also be all white, but is less dramatic.
Negative space does not have to be black or white, and it doesn't even have to be plain. I'd also argue that white is no less dramatic and can easily be more. There have been some amazing examples of negative space in past challenges. Trying not to steal too many ideas or push anyone in a particular direction, here are some of my favorites:
Hair Cut
Disappointment
Leaving
I expect Kimbly to do well in this challenge, since she's got so many beautiful negative space shots. :)
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09/09/2002 12:32:26 PM · #11 |
Let me see if I get it or not: Negative Space is everything that is NOT the subject. The subject of the Challenge is negative space. So, next week, we will be judging pictures of subjects that are not the subjects of the pictures we judge. I think I got it! (Let me go back and read that tutorial again...)
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09/09/2002 12:52:25 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by MarkRob:
Let me see if I get it or not: Negative Space is everything that is NOT the subject. The subject of the Challenge is negative space. So, next week, we will be judging pictures of subjects that are not the subjects of the pictures we judge. I think I got it! (Let me go back and read that tutorial again...)
Basically you have it... To me this challenge like the b/w challenge. We were not judging the b/w itself but how it was used to accentuate the subject and add to the photograph as a while. Likewise, our job as photographers is to make use of the negative space to accentuate the positive space.
Good luck.
-Terry
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09/09/2002 03:04:44 PM · #13 |
Perfect Example Here
Duke Ellington 1960
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09/09/2002 03:38:27 PM · #14 |
Drew,
You posted this challenge 1 hour and 43 minutes too late for this picture to qualify...
-Paul |
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09/09/2002 03:41:41 PM · #15 |
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