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06/19/2006 07:20:32 PM · #1 |
Ok, I have a problem with some of the challenge photos. I will tell you this once and I will not comment about it again.
I will not give good points or any points to photos with children, or young kids with pain, sorrow or any other negativity.
I do NOT care what you think about it, art, composition.. whatever. Use your imagination and be creative without using sensitive subjects like kids.
I also have problem with those who thinks dead, torn apart animals makes good photos.
Maybe somewhere, but should not be here.
If you can't find a good subject, don't enter at all. Don't try too hard and make some of us sick. |
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06/19/2006 07:22:41 PM · #2 |
| Please go with no points then. |
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06/19/2006 07:23:22 PM · #3 |
My apologies. I will be sure to inundate the challenges with flower pictures instead
Message edited by author 2006-06-19 19:28:14.
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06/19/2006 07:23:44 PM · #4 |
Way to keep an open mind.
Definitely abstain from voting. People don't deserve to be given lower marks simply for subject matter.. regardless of *what* you personally believe. |
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06/19/2006 07:24:36 PM · #5 |
I'm assuming you don't have children and have never seen how heartbreaking and moving it can be when they are distressed.
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06/19/2006 07:28:27 PM · #6 |
| This sounds like a rant to me. Thanks for the opinions. |
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06/19/2006 07:31:29 PM · #7 |
What if we both suffer together?
edit to add: Caution - exploited child image.
Message edited by author 2006-06-19 19:32:05. |
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06/19/2006 07:35:04 PM · #8 |
I'm not going to vote for people with left hands. If you want a good score from me you better be right-handed ONLY.
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06/19/2006 07:40:18 PM · #9 |
Cindi, next time I do a nude grinder pic, will I get a 10 if she grinds her hand off in the shot?
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06/19/2006 07:41:31 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Cindi, next time I do a nude grinder pic, will I get a 10 if she grinds her hand off in the shot? |
Well I don't like blood either, so only a 9 if I see blood!
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06/19/2006 07:43:31 PM · #11 |
| What's wrong with someone voting down for subject matter? Do I have to go into my turd example again? |
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06/19/2006 07:44:25 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
What's wrong with someone voting down for subject matter? Do I have to go into my turd example again? |
You don't like turds? OMG! What a biased bastard you are :-P
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06/19/2006 07:46:32 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
What's wrong with someone voting down for subject matter? Do I have to go into my turd example again? |
Is the turd in focus? |
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06/19/2006 07:49:10 PM · #14 |
| Personally I think it's ok to vote down for subject matter - EVERYONE does it whether they admit it or not and it works both ways - everyone knows some subject matter gets voted "up" so seems reasonable it could go the other way. I don't even see a problem with the OP trolling sad kid shots - to each his own - vote any way you want - it is your opinion. I do think it's lame to post this type of thing in the forum, but again - he's entitled. |
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06/19/2006 07:51:10 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Personally I think it's ok to vote down for subject matter - EVERYONE does it whether they admit it or not and it works both ways - everyone knows some subject matter gets voted "up" so seems reasonable it could go the other way. I don't even see a problem with the OP trolling sad kid shots - to each his own - vote any way you want - it is your opinion. I do think it's lame to post this type of thing in the forum, but again - he's entitled. |
*sniff* no villages burned today? *sniff*
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06/19/2006 07:53:10 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
What's wrong with someone voting down for subject matter? |
Now that is a GOOD question!!
I really do try to vote on the photo, but the subject is part of it.
If I am deeply disgusted/disturbed by an image, I'm not allowed to use my vote to express my distress?
Sorry, guys..... but we all have limits, and we're entitled to at least some degree of good taste.
(and I'm not talking about beautiful nudes who deserved a great score if only they hadn't been totally shoehorned into a challenge *g*)
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06/19/2006 07:54:28 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by pidge:
*sniff* no villages burned today? *sniff* |
I never said that. I'm off to burn the local orphanage and take pictures of the sad and screaming children as they watch their meeger belongings go up in smoke. But hey, that kind of thing doesn't appeal to everyone. ;-)
Message edited by author 2006-06-19 19:55:04. |
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06/19/2006 08:20:28 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
Originally posted by TooCool:
What's wrong with someone voting down for subject matter? |
Now that is a GOOD question!!
I really do try to vote on the photo, but the subject is part of it.
If I am deeply disgusted/disturbed by an image, I'm not allowed to use my vote to express my distress?
Sorry, guys..... but we all have limits, and we're entitled to at least some degree of good taste.
(and I'm not talking about beautiful nudes who deserved a great score if only they hadn't been totally shoehorned into a challenge *g*) |
Yes, we are entitled to an expectation of good taste here. It's in the Terms of Service. The problem is that with such a diverse community it's hard to get consensus on what good taste is. Sometimes we get carried away with our "anythings goes" attitudes. No matter how distasteful something is there is always someone who will defend it, calling it art, or some other excuse, and many more who will jump on the bandwagon without much thought. I doubt it would hurt the site if the standard of good taste were tightened and enforced just a little bit more agressively.
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06/19/2006 08:23:45 PM · #19 |
Hmmph
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06/19/2006 08:33:09 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
I doubt it would hurt the site if the standard of good taste were tightened and enforced just a little bit more agressively. |
I think they are pretty strict as they are. Shutterpug and myself got DQ'd for simply suggesting a solo sex acts in our photos. No exposed breasts, no exposed genitals, just simply placing one's hands in the shorts can (and has) resulted in DQ. I can't see where anyone can seriously suggest that the "standards of good taste" need to be tightened.
This site, even compared to what is on American broadcast television, is pretty tame.
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06/19/2006 08:43:47 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by pidge:
*sniff* no villages burned today? *sniff* |
I never said that. I'm off to burn the local orphanage and take pictures of the sad and screaming children as they watch their meeger belongings go up in smoke. But hey, that kind of thing doesn't appeal to everyone. ;-) |
ROFLMAO!
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06/19/2006 08:44:19 PM · #22 |
Challenge Photo
Reality of the Challenge Photo :) |
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06/19/2006 09:45:34 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
I think they are pretty strict as they are. Shutterpug and myself got DQ'd for simply suggesting a solo sex acts in our photos. No exposed breasts, no exposed genitals, just simply placing one's hands in the shorts can (and has) resulted in DQ. I can't see where anyone can seriously suggest that the "standards of good taste" need to be tightened. |
I think this part of your post proves my point. We'll never agree on what is good taste, and some one will defend anything that comes up. If we expect to be somewhere above the lowest common denominator someone has to take on leadership, and someone's toes will be stepped on. Haven't seen much of that around here.
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
This site, even compared to what is on American broadcast television, is pretty tame. |
We don't have to "out gross", or be more outrageous than, the competition to attract viewers. I don't think TV has a good taste rule that they have to live up to, the FCC only enforces a standard of "decency".
Leroy, do you consider everything that is on broadcast television to be in good taste?
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06/19/2006 10:24:32 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by focuspoint:
Maybe somewhere, but should not be here.
If you can't find a good subject, don't enter at all. Don't try too hard and make some of us sick. |
and another thing... what's with these gratuitous shots of alcohol? i mean, things like this are completely insensitive to those members who may be struggling with adiction, and that's just wrong.
blame it on the southern baptist in me if you'd like, but from now on, i vote anything with alcohol -3 points...
(yeesh...)
edit: i is a good spealer
Message edited by author 2006-06-19 22:26:36.
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06/19/2006 10:53:28 PM · #25 |
for a very long time, art has dealt with 'unpleasant' subject matter. from the memento mori of roman times, to the still lifes of the renaissance and beyond, many forms of art have attempted to bring an awareness of death to the living. this is not done to depress or disgust, but rather to both encourage life (the 'eat, drink, for tomorrow we die' approach) and prevent hubris (eventually, we all die, so a little humility, please).
while a line should be drawn at the harming of innocent indiviuals, art is there to push boundaries, not just to decorate. is a crying child photographed being harmed? a very good question. and, like all things that are worth anything, not easily answered. some are, some aren't.
we need art that makes us think, look at the world in a different way, perhaps sometimes experience true empathy. each time we consider an artwork we don't like, give it time and thought, without dismissing it outright, we learn more about ourselves and the world around us.
we can appreciate a piece of work without liking it. this can lead to a better understanding of the world.
ok, class dismissed.
now, art, i hope you got some great shots of the disposessed orphans, with many tears and pathetic reaching hands...
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