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06/01/2006 04:39:20 PM · #1
Just received a validation request on this photo in the Failure challenge. The shot placed 31st. I'll send in the original tonight when I get home.

Unless I completly do not understand the "Basic Editing Rules", this shot will be deemed legal.

In a way, I welcome the validation. It means someone thought the shot was too good for "basic". It may be that someone doesn't believe that this shot was taken during the challenge dates. I can understand the "date" issue because it is HARD to believe that many parts of New Orleans still look like this TODAY 9 months after the hurricane!

I'll keep you all posted.

KS
06/01/2006 04:41:03 PM · #2
possibly the date issue. don't expect this kind of scene now
06/01/2006 04:42:02 PM · #3
I'm guessing you are correct about someone wanting to validate the date.

And YES, NO still looks that bad in most of the city and probably will for a long time to come.
06/01/2006 04:42:26 PM · #4
Maybe they thought you cloned out the FEMA trailer? Oh wait...they are all still in Oklahoma.
06/01/2006 04:48:25 PM · #5
Heehe...no...there are many Fema trailers here in front of homes, however, the area my shot was taken is the 9th Ward...no people, no rebuilding, no need for trailers! This is where 66% of the 1500 dead were located.

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Maybe they thought you cloned out the FEMA trailer? Oh wait...they are all still in Oklahoma.
06/01/2006 05:43:20 PM · #6
FEMA's new guidelines for rebuilding New Orleans:

06/01/2006 06:25:02 PM · #7
Originally posted by dwterry:

FEMA's new guidelines for rebuilding New Orleans:


HA! Priceless!
06/01/2006 07:36:08 PM · #8
Update:

I sent in the NEF Raw file with editing steps a few minutes ago. Hopefully I will hear something soon.

IMO, if the validation request is date related then it makes the shot even better! To think that this shot was taken 9 months after the hurricane may be hard for some to believe. I assure you, the homes in that picture are only two of HUNDREDS in the city that still lay spralling across streets in deserted neighborhoods.

KenSkid
06/01/2006 07:43:57 PM · #9
Originally posted by kenskid:

Hopefully I will hear something soon.

Hopefully you will not hear anything. If you hear something, you are in trouble :D
06/01/2006 07:44:06 PM · #10
Sheesh, you would think that after 9 months they would have cleaned up a little more. I guess that's the real failure :(
06/01/2006 07:53:30 PM · #11
Just think, even though your comment is heartfelt and genuine, I can see even you (as someone who cares) does not know the extent!

The area in the pictures is destroyed. Not a single usable structure in about a 40sq/block area...and that's only one part of the city. There are about 5 other areas in just as bad shape! It is done...there is no need to clean it at the moment. There are more important things going on....Like fixing the levees.

Originally posted by TrynityRose:

Sheesh, you would think that after 9 months they would have cleaned up a little more. I guess that's the real failure :(
06/01/2006 07:53:53 PM · #12
Yeah, it is still a complete and utter disaster.

They just dont have the people, the rooms or resources to get it cleaned up.

Its a bad deal.
06/01/2006 08:12:35 PM · #13
Just got a reply from SC. It was a "date" issue. I guess it is hard to believe that this shot was taken a week ago!

Thanks to all, especially the one who requested the validation!

KenSkid
06/01/2006 08:26:50 PM · #14
I just got back from New Orleans and it looks like Katrina hit last week, rather than last year. It's going to take years to clean up the devastation that storm left behind. I hope this storm season gives New Orleans a well deserved break.
06/01/2006 08:31:15 PM · #15
I hope we get a break too. One more like that in the next 5 years and we are done! As it is already...I'm done. I'm building a house 35 miles north of N.O. 47 feet above sea level! For those not "in the know" 47 feet is 53 feet higher than my current home!

Originally posted by PhilipDyer:

I just got back from New Orleans and it looks like Katrina hit last week, rather than last year. It's going to take years to clean up the devastation that storm left behind. I hope this storm season gives New Orleans a well deserved break.
06/01/2006 08:53:29 PM · #16
I did not know you lost your house, that must be really tough. Congrats on the new house. I live in Houston, my parents are in Aransas Pass, and my sisters are north of Galveston.

I dont know, they will hit some place, lets just hope its a peacful season. Not likley, but we can hope.

06/01/2006 09:08:33 PM · #17
I can see how someone thought this was the wrong date. I personally find it unbeleivable that a country with the wealth of the US......and this place is still not cleaned up? (I won't rant here)


06/01/2006 09:09:56 PM · #18
Whew...I didn't lose my house ! Thank god. However, the water came a millimeter from the bottom of my windows and doors. Barely escaped the flood. Houses all around me flooded! I was lucky. My wife couldn't take it anymore and we sold the house! Because ours did not flood, and others were looking for homes, we sold our house at market value in one day. We are now living in a relatives house until February!

This was shot by a neighbor who stayed for the storm. This is my front yard looking across the street at neighbors.

This is the day after the storm.



Thanks,

Originally posted by Cam:

I did not know you lost your house, that must be really tough. Congrats on the new house. I live in Houston, my parents are in Aransas Pass, and my sisters are north of Galveston.

I dont know, they will hit some place, lets just hope its a peacful season. Not likley, but we can hope.
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06/01/2006 09:11:47 PM · #19
Originally posted by kenskid:

In a way, I welcome the validation. It means someone thought the shot was too good for "basic". It may be that someone doesn't believe that this shot was taken during the challenge dates. I can understand the "date" issue because it is HARD to believe that many parts of New Orleans still look like this TODAY 9 months after the hurricane!

I think the validation request is more likely stemming from something thinking the photo was not taken by you - not due to editing.
06/01/2006 09:13:37 PM · #20
I got a reply from SC and they said it was a "date" issue. I welcomed the challenge and sent in the original. I understand the reason for not believing the shot was taken last week and not last year!

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by kenskid:

In a way, I welcome the validation. It means someone thought the shot was too good for "basic". It may be that someone doesn't believe that this shot was taken during the challenge dates. I can understand the "date" issue because it is HARD to believe that many parts of New Orleans still look like this TODAY 9 months after the hurricane!

I think the validation request is more likely stemming from something thinking the photo was not taken by you - not due to editing.
06/01/2006 09:26:07 PM · #21
Originally posted by kenskid:

I got a reply from SC and they said it was a "date" issue. I welcomed the challenge and sent in the original. I understand the reason for not believing the shot was taken last week and not last year!

Christ! - you wrecked the neighbourhood just to get a photo? lol
06/01/2006 09:40:30 PM · #22
I can believe that there is still extensive devastation, and the clean-up will take many years to come. I went on two trips, a year apart, to work on homes in North Carolina that were flooded from hurricanes. The years that I went were year 3 and year 4 after the damage initially occurred, and there were still plenty of people living in FEMA housing or crowded into other homes. We even visited a school that was still vacant... children were bused to a neighboring less damaged district where they attended classes in temporary mobile classrooms. After four years, there was still much to be done; the organization we worked through estimated that it would be at least another year, maybe two, before clean-up and repairs would be "complete". Even houses that weren't a total loss had to be gutted because insulation sucks up water like a sponge and mold starts growing all over the walls. Considering the large population effected by Katrina, kenskid's photo will continue to represent the reality of Katrina's impact for probably a decade, or even longer.

kenskid, your decision to move to higher ground is very wise. :)

06/01/2006 10:32:01 PM · #23
Hurricanes Francis and Ivan came through Western North Carolina almost two years ago. There are areas in my town that are *just now* being inhabitable again.

The devastation here was nothing compared to Katrina in NO and surrounding areas. There are some things that wealth cannot speed up.
06/01/2006 11:46:14 PM · #24
Thanks for all the replies.
Below is a map of where the shot came from. The red dot is the street that those houses are on. It is Forstall Street in the New Orleans 9th Ward. I was born there but moved 6 miles west when I was about 6 yrs old.

The red square is a total loss. Most of the homes look like my pic or worse. The big red arrow indicates "Chalmette area" another suburb of N.O. It is completly devistated. Most homes unrepairable.

Blue arrows are where the levees broke in this one section of town. On the east side (the two blue arrows) the water flowed like a river. The strip of water is the "Industrial Canal" it is where ships go for repair and/or to be loaded/unloaded for river travel.

The Mississippi River (below in the map) did not flood!

This is just about a 20 sq/mile area. There were about 10 other Levee breaks in other areas that are not shown on this map.

I hope this gives some "scale" to my photo!

KS



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