A surprising amount of "ones"...

05/24/2006 01:14:55 PM · #26

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Don't discount the "prude" aspect either; images that feature condoms and/or the word "SUX" prominently displayed are gonna get some ones. No two ways about it, funny or not.

Robt.

That SUX

05/24/2006 01:18:35 PM · #27

Pander - To cater to the lower tastes and desires of others.

It's something that has worked for comedy forever (British comedies are good examples). Which makes my point: I said that only very subtle G-rated humor works well here at DPC. Pandering by it's very nature is less than G-rated.

I personally can't thnk of a single pandering, humorous shot on this site that was well recieved by voters. Ofcourse, some are more open to having those desires catered to than others.

Edit: for grammar

Message edited by author 2006-05-24 13:20:14.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

05/24/2006 01:20:14 PM · #28

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Pander - To cater to the lower tastes and desires of others.

It's something that has worked for comedy forever British comedies are good examples). Which makes my point: I said that only very subtle G-rated humor works well here at DPC. Pandering by it's very nature is less than G-rated.

I personally can't thnk of any pandering, humorous shot on this site that was well recieved by voters. Ofcourse, some are more open to having those desires catered to than others.

Please don't mention DPC voters and the word "subtle" in the same paragraph. It offends my very sensitive virgin ears.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

05/24/2006 02:00:17 PM · #29

Originally posted by ursula:

It's the visible unmentionables that got that image all the ones. And the belly-button.

And I was just thinking of getting it pierced...

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

05/24/2006 02:01:18 PM · #30

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by ursula:
It's the visible unmentionables that got that image all the ones. And the belly-button.

And I was just thinking of getting it pierced...

Do it, do it!

bravo six

Nikon D100

05/24/2006 02:04:23 PM · #31

hehe, I'm always the recipient of the prude votes. I decided to keep posting the images though. Mainly out of spite.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Don't discount the "prude" aspect either; images that feature condoms and/or the word "SUX" prominently displayed are gonna get some ones. No two ways about it, funny or not.

Robt.

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

05/24/2006 02:04:47 PM · #32

1. Wasn't even willing to relocate finger to other hand in order to complete the word = lack of dedication to DPC.

2. Dude needs a tan!

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

05/24/2006 02:39:10 PM · #33

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

How about this one? Is this pandering?

OK, call me predictable if you must. ;)

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

05/24/2006 02:43:11 PM · #34

Originally posted by coolhar:

How about this one? Is this pandering?

OK, call me predictable if you must. ;)

Yeah, that was very much pandering :-D

And, no, I never saw that coming... well, not from you... ;-)

RMyers1314

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

05/24/2006 03:41:57 PM · #35

What the subject is shouldn't matter.

What defines art? I see Art is a sculpture, painting, picture, movie, etc. Technical skill and hard work goes into making any artwork. When the subject matter is detested, why is it no longer art? I have seen a painting of Chairman Mao sailing into New York Harbor holding up his little red book. The detail of the landscape was breathtaking, as well as the Statue of Liberty. I HATE Communism and all that Mao stands for. But it was a good painting.

Need to look past the subject. Focus on the technical aspects. DOF, Sharpness, lighting, etc. Not "I hate Nikon - 3"/"I hate dogs - 2"/"Pictures by a Man - 8"

Time to go back to left field.

V/R
Robert

Message edited by author 2006-05-24 15:42:25.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

05/24/2006 03:47:24 PM · #36

Ahh, another challange another one of these threads. Every challenge someone whines that they got ones that were'nt justified. Sorry, but not every every dpc member and voter is as photographically educated as some are. The trend I'm noticing is the op's of these threads are rarely justified in their postings. Yes some great images get voted down because people just don't get them. However, most that whine that they got ones are complaining about a very average image. While technically a critique comment should be based on some sort of justification, sometimes you see an image and you just don't like it due to personal tastes, nothing is wrong with that. Giving an image a one based on personal tastes alone however is ignorant. There are still concept/technical aspects of every photo that deserve merit.
That said I think the overall score of this image (a five) is pretty accurate. The lighting was harsh and uneven, being very strongly sidelit from the left, with inadequate fill from the right and front leaving the face in essentially "open shade." The camera angle wasn't very creative, being a dead-on shot. The concept was definitely original . I think the idea of portraying a lenscap as "ice" (the slang term for tacky neclaces/jewelry also referred to as "bling" was hilarious and had great potential. Yeah it probably did get some unjustified votes that negatively impacted the score, however I doubt you were the only one affected by this. It probably would have faired better (maybe a 6.5 or so) had you elected not to include the bash towards Nikon users, and instead used a "thug" pose to match the tacky necklace. I think the overall score was justifed and reflected upon the effort put into the photograph (by this I mean the execution, not the concept). You seem to agree that it's not one of your best images, why should others. You must believe in your work first before you can expect others too. So why worry about the votes?

sidenote rant
In my opinion I just don't get why people bash whatever camera brand they don't use, to me that's as ingnorant as people that vote ones purely based on the fact they don't like the image. Nikon and Canon both make great equipment and I've seen great images come from both brands. Examples on dpc being kiwiness and librodo using Nikon, and arnit's extensive portfolio using Canon. So let's leave the materialism behind and worry about the photographs ( I make this statement in general as I'm tired of people obsessing over what brand of camera they use and how "sweet" it is. Sorry but an expensive camera won't make you any better, that's up to the individual to work on.
Kerry

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

05/24/2006 03:49:06 PM · #37

um... DrAchoo did NOT start this thread.

Canon EOS-20D

05/24/2006 03:50:23 PM · #38

I hope people are actually reading the content of this thread before railing against DocAchoo who didn't even start it and hasn't complained one bit.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/24/2006 03:52:47 PM · #39

Originally posted by mk:

I hope people are actually reading the content of this thread before railing against DocAchoo who didn't even start it and hasn't complained one bit.

Yes, and it's actually quite the contrary, where he had accepted his fate before voting had even begun.

hanneke

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/24/2006 04:03:57 PM · #40

I'd better not complain about my written-hand-photo in the square-crop challenge...

whoehahaha!

Message edited by author 2006-05-24 16:09:13.

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

05/24/2006 04:04:32 PM · #41

I wasn't bashing Drachoo at all, he agreed that it is an average image , I do as well. So why is someone else bringing up his score, seems to me it would be his business to do so, not theirs. Larus inquired as to why this image scored as it did. I merely said that I think unjustifed ones are ignorant, since every image has intrinsic value, but I believe the overall score is accurate.
Jaded youth is the one whining in a thread originally started for a different image.

Kronus

Nikon D7000

05/24/2006 04:08:22 PM · #42

Scores .....Scores.......Someones KEEPING SCORES

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

05/24/2006 04:18:15 PM · #43

Humor, PG-rated (more or less), pun intended, AND a woody; no wine glass or water drops, though. Knew I forgot something.

Worked out OK in this instance.

One 1, three 2's, twelve 3's (darn anti-woody crowd, I'm sure).

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

05/24/2006 04:43:17 PM · #44

Originally posted by Care Bear:

I think what is interesting (and don't worry I didn't think you were bashing me or something) is the amount of 1 votes on the shot. It's just interesting, that's all. People can certainly give 1s to whatever picture they want, but we tend to limit 1s on this site and so it's fun to try to get at the psyche of the voter.

Look at it this way. There were 8 shots which clearly DNMC (due possibly to the lenscap/landscape screwup.) They received many more 1s than I did. The two "black" plctures also received more 1s. Other than than, I believe my shot has more 1s than any other. It's a curious question as to why.

We all wondered if there would be canon/nikon favortism out there and I had commented (before the voting) that if there was going to be a bias, it would certainly be on my shot. It appears this is true. I do think that there may have been some DNMC due to the size of the lenscap in relation to the picture (not being the "main subject"), but there was only one comment to such effect and there are lots of other picture which did not receive nearly as many 1s which have a similar focus away from the lenscap.

Again, I just find it interesting. I already pretty well know what flys and doesn't fly on the site, but delving into DPC Underground (which I can now say I've visited) is fun now and then.

Rikki

Canon EOS-20D

05/24/2006 04:51:02 PM · #45

Hey Achoo. I just found your fo-shizzle.

Rebecca

Nikon D80

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5- 5.6G ED DX

05/24/2006 04:54:25 PM · #46

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Finished one spot ahead of Dr.Achoo with 12 ones and 13 twos. And, DrAchoo is partially correct. Humor isn't well recieved at DPC, unless it's very subtle G-rated humor.

This is why I opted not to enter the environmental portrait of my friend who designs adult toys...

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

05/24/2006 05:07:48 PM · #47

I agree with you Drachoo, and thanks for understanding I wasn't bashing you at all. I really hate the fact that the dpc crowd can be so defensive at times when you provide critique. I don't think 21 ones were justified on your picture (there were some bad pics in that challenge), though I do think the overall score was, and many voted in the 4-6 range. As far as lenscap size in relation to the rest of your picture is concerned I don't think this should matter. However the nikon sucks does compete strongly with the lenscap in terms of subject dominance in the image and that probably hurt it, since it shifts focus away from the lenscap. And of course there are always the brand loyal oversensitive zealots out there...

Message edited by author 2006-05-24 17:08:19.

Jaded_Housewife

Canon EOS-5D

05/24/2006 05:15:13 PM · #48

Originally posted by Care Bear:

WOAH! did ya need to say i was whining? The title did not mention dr. achoos shot specifically, it is called "a surprising amount of 1's" which i felt my shot had too. i figured others that felt the same would also contribute. by the time i realized that apparently wasnt what was going to happen here i ended it. please treat me a bit more respectfully.
Thank you,
Crystal

Elaine

Canon EOS R5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS II USM Lens

05/24/2006 05:24:35 PM · #49

This was my entry

and my votes:
1- 0
2- 5
3- 21
4- 45
5- 111
6- 76
7- 27
8- 29
9- 3
10- 3

I took this as a fun challenge, not a serious chance to bash any particular brand of camera. Actually, I walked around my house looking for things that were round that the lens cap could fit on, and when I saw the trophy an idea was born. I have a Canon, so that was my "winner". Seems the rival camera theory is not going to hold up!

Edit to add dashes between the score and number received for clarity.

Message edited by author 2006-05-24 17:26:19.